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FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
It's really easy not to get banned. Just don't be an bumhole. I don't know what's so complicated about that.
- funmaster18

you, sir, are wise beyond your years.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
nothing is perfect, but most of the mods do a good job ... bodiva especially.

and posters don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and whether someone is banned. They base their idea of whether a mod is doing a good job simply on what they see happening on their screen.

- FlyerGuy



Fair points, but I've seen it multiple times. A poster says something that fans of that team doesn't like, even though it wasn't personal or incendiary, they respond personally and with childish retorts like, "I hope ___ gets injured.", and then the guy who did nothing wrong gets banned while everyone else skates away. It's not really a big deal, I don't really care, but lets not pretend the system here is completely, and utterly arbitrary.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Nov 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
Hello to you all.

As an impartial mod, and not caring about team affiliation nor what you guys think of me be forewarned.

If it looks to me like you are just here to stir the pot, enjoy your free weekend, if it looks like openminded hockey talk......well it will depend on my mood.

Tread carefully folks.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Nov 2 @ 12:26 PM ET
It's really easy not to get banned. Just don't be an bumhole. I don't know what's so complicated about that.
- funmaster18

I like this guy already
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
I actually don't. Ben just posted one, but he hasn't in like a week and no one comments in his anyway. But, your comment really hits the point home...what does it matter what team forum it is? That should not change how a mod gives out bans supposedly based on a universal code of conduct.
- Blackstrom2


You will have to excuse me, my itchy ass ranks above arguing with some dude over who should get a "ban" on some hockey website.

Have a good one,

Matt
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
I need help. If I respond to this is it feeding the troll?
- 2Real



Consult the Code of Conduct, it's in there.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
FFS..what sport are people watching? Benches clear in baseball then it is just boys playing hard..seriously..wtf.

Chris Botta
@ChrisBottaNHL
If Ray Emery is not suspended for a long time for his instigation and attack, the NHL should provide an explanation.


opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Tread carefully folks.
- braidan


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braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Nov 2 @ 12:29 PM ET
I actually don't. Ben just posted one, but he hasn't in like a week and no one comments in his anyway. But, your comment really hits the point home...what does it matter what team forum it is? That should not change how a mod gives out bans supposedly based on a universal code of conduct.
- Blackstrom2

It's kind of like this, I can fart and scratch in my house and my friends are free to do the same, but when I go to my someone else's house I try to behave a little more until we know each other better.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
Poor Vinny! Team he picked sucks and is looking at a rebuild and he gets his face broken. Must be regretting his choice right now. Karma is a female dog!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
It's kind of like this, I can fart and scratch in my house and my friends are free to do the same, but when I go to my someone else's house I try to behave a little more until we know each other better.
- braidan


FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
Fair points, but I've seen it multiple times. A poster says something that fans of that team doesn't like, even though it wasn't personal or incendiary, they respond personally and with childish retorts like, "I hope ___ gets injured.", and then the guy who did nothing wrong gets banned while everyone else skates away. It's not really a big deal, I don't really care, but lets not pretend the system here is completely, and utterly arbitrary.
- Blackstrom2

well, if you're talking about last night's post-game stuff, that was just one guy who said that ... and then he disappeared, so I'm assuming he was banned. He's been banned before, if I remember correctly.

I agree that sometimes there's a little more leeway given by the mods to their own fans ... but they can't always divorce themselves of their feelings. We're all hockey fans to start with, and occasionally it's hard to be 100% objective in a certain situation. Especially when it comes to your own team.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
What we really need right now is Ek to drop a couple of rumors about potential Flyers moves, because in seven hours, we've gotta ice a lineup against a team that has broken our dreams for years, without two guys who played on our first line last night, one of whom is our leading goal scorer.

Maybe it's just me, but that ain't exactly what the doctor ordered.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
FFS..what sport are people watching? Benches clear in baseball then it is just boys playing hard..seriously..wtf.

Chris Botta
@ChrisBottaNHL
If Ray Emery is not suspended for a long time for his instigation and attack, the NHL should provide an explanation.

- opeth_pa


Is there anything more anti climatic then a baseball bench clearer?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
Having some time to cool down after last night, here are some observations:

The lack of compete after the 1st goal was just scary, that being said, at least Emery, Simmonds and Downie showed some emotion. While Emery may have taken it a bit too far, I'm fine with it, at least he cares!

Regarding trades, here are my thoughts:

Guys who are nearly untouchable (after the Gretzky trade, no one is truly untouchable)
Giroux
Voracek
Mason


Guys who I would only move as part of a deal to get a top pair dman or a hands down 1st line forward, the player acquired must be under 30 as well.
Couturier
Coburn
L Schenn
Alt
Any of the Flyers top 4 prospects: Laughton, Morin, Hagg & Stolarz

Guys I would move for picks, top prospects and/or young talent
Lacavalier
Hartnell
Timonen
Grossmann
Streit

Guys I would move with some reservation in the right deal
Read
B Schenn
Simmonds
Downie
Emery
Gustafsson
Raffl
Cousins
McGinn
Lauridsen

Guys I would move in a heartbeat for most anything
Rinaldo
Hall
Rosehill
Mezaros
Gill


braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Nov 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
Poor Vinny! Team he picked sucks and is looking at a rebuild and he gets his face broken. Must be regretting his choice right now. Karma is a female dog!
- Champ

See this is stirring the pot and bannable.

First, last, and only warning

EDIT: bye champ
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
Poor Vinny! Team he picked sucks and is looking at a rebuild and he gets his face broken. Must be regretting his choice right now. Karma is a female dog!
- Champ

so um who's your team? ashamed to even list it?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Nov 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
Hello to you all.

As an impartial mod, and not caring about team affiliation nor what you guys think of me be forewarned.

If it looks to me like you are just here to stir the pot, enjoy your free weekend, if it looks like openminded hockey talk......well it will depend on my mood.

Tread carefully folks.

- braidan

I just like banning people for fun and I will also be here all weekend. But in all serious there is no reason to be rude or ignorant towards other posters. Regardless if this is your thread or not.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Nov 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
so um who's your team? ashamed to even list it?
- 2Real

You'll have to ask his alt
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
Poor Vinny! Team he picked sucks and is looking at a rebuild and he gets his face broken. Must be regretting his choice right now. Karma is a female dog!
- Champ


Lecavalier is 6"4" 220, and he got his skull tap danced on by big bad Steve Olesky 6'0" 190. Embarrassing.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
What we really need right now is Ek to drop a couple of rumors about potential Flyers moves, because in seven hours, we've gotta ice a lineup against a team that has broken our dreams for years, without two guys who played on our first line last night, one of whom is our leading goal scorer.

Maybe it's just me, but that ain't exactly what the doctor ordered.

- AllInForFlyers

i was just about to jump off the train i'm on but it slowed down for newark \station so i'll have to wait. funny there is a guy from toronto that was at the game last night talking about how bad it was, from a hockey standpoint.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
Listen, if you guys plan on going all WWF again tonight, please beat the crap out of Zajac. His bloated contract, coupled with his lack of production has reached a point, where I think i would enjoy seeing him take a few shots to the face.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
You'll have to ask his alt
- braidan

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:39 PM ET
Having some time to cool down after last night, here are some observations:

The lack of compete after the 1st goal was just scary, that being said, at least Emery, Simmonds and Downie showed some emotion. While Emery may have taken it a bit too far, I'm fine with it, at least he cares!

Regarding trades, here are my thoughts:

Guys who are nearly untouchable (after the Gretzky trade, no one is truly untouchable)
Giroux
Voracek
Mason


Guys who I would only move as part of a deal to get a top pair dman or a hands down 1st line forward, the player acquired must be under 30 as well.
Couturier
Coburn
L Schenn
Alt
Any of the Flyers top 4 prospects: Laughton, Morin, Hagg & Stolarz

Guys I would move for picks, top prospects and/or young talent
Lacavalier
Hartnell
Timonen
Grossmann
Streit

Guys I would move with some reservation in the right deal
Read
B Schenn
Simmonds
Downie
Emery
Gustafsson
Raffl
Cousins
McGinn
Lauridsen

Guys I would move in a heartbeat for most anything
Rinaldo
Hall
Rosehill
Mezaros
Gill

- BiggE


Do you really believe Jakub Voracek is an "bring it every night" guy who we should build around, or is that what you want him to be/hope he is?

Because I know what Claude Giroux is. He's played in the Stanley Cup finals, been a monster in those and in regular seasons. I don't worry about him, at 25 years old.

But those other guys on this roster...I don't trust too many of them, anymore.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:39 PM ET
Listen, if you guys plan on going all WWF again tonight, please beat the crap out of Zajac. His bloated contract, coupled with his lack of production has reached a point, where I think i would enjoy seeing him take a few shots to the face.
- WayneZ

nah how about we just trade you couturier for him that's more like flyers character
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