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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, I'll take him, but if this is the guy they decide to make the franchise player, this team will not win a cup any time soon. If they get Reinhart and McDavid, great. However, McDavid, if the hype is correct, is the type of player you want to build a Stanley Cup franchise around. Reinhart is a step below that. Of course, it's all potential and projections, but if they turn out to be correct, the difference between McDavid and Reinhart is the difference between being Pittsburgh/Chicago and being Edmonton/NY Islanders/Atlantapeg.
- buffalofan19

Boston won a cup with a 2nd round center.
LA won with Kopitar.
Toews was the 3rd overall pick

One player doesn't have to make or break the future. He can just be really good and it would help us
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Why do you doubt that? And honestly have you even watched him at all
- sbroads24



I have seen a little bit, but I admit I am going based on projections. Lately, in the past couple of years, they have been dead on though. If I'm going to tank, I want the closest to a sure thing that I can get. Reinhart isn't it.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
In fact, you and I both agreed that trading the #1 overall pick might be the better move.
- buffalofan19


ahh ill try to commit this to memory so when I get lambasted we can have each others back
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
Well, the prized duo in the FA market are out of the picture for Buffalo. Sedins signed 4-year extensions.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
And detroit is bad?
- rapperray


No that's my point...
Even the very best organizations "miss" at the draft
Even in the 1st round
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
No smart guy, grigorenko was talked up and everyone knew about his laziness,Darcy the genius didn't. Also,we needed centers, not every team needed centers smart guy
- REGIERhater


Wow...brand new and already beating your chest. You will fit right in with these misfits.

You like the phrase "smart guy" huh?

I love how a center has a 4 goal game and all the sudden he's amazing and everyone who wanted a center should have taken him. Let's give it a bit more than just 15 games ok sport.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
I have seen a little bit, but I admit I am going based on projections. Lately, in the past couple of years, they have been dead on though. If I'm going to tank, I want the closest to a sure thing that I can get. Reinhart isn't it.
- buffalofan19


me too I think ive watched like3 games this year where at last year prob 3 times as many

granted we will be in the top still the class fire power isnt as nice. I mean watchign Halifax last year was awsome.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
The issue is we have drafted defensemen and Role Players for so long. Armia could end up being an exception Grigo hasnt shown any but of hope. Girgs as much as I love him on a good team hes never going to be above the 3rd line. Larrson Ott same thing 3rd liners
- hubie

Girgensons can be more than a 3rd liner IMO. Not a star player but he has Dustin Brown potential
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Why do you doubt that? And honestly have you even watched him at all
- sbroads24


Few games ive seen I beleive one of htis year Id comepare him to Colorado getting Statsny or Duchene. Good player yes great player not so much.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Wow...brand new and already beating your chest. You will fit right in with these misfits.

You like the phrase "smart guy" huh?

I love how a center has a 4 goal game and all the sudden he's amazing and everyone who wanted a center should have taken him. Let's give it a bit more than just 15 games ok sport.

- bjm1717


hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Girgensons can be more than a 3rd liner IMO. Not a star player but he has Dustin Brown potential
- sbroads24


Highly doubt it, Id love it but doubt it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
I have seen a little bit, but I admit I am going based on projections. Lately, in the past couple of years, they have been dead on though. If I'm going to tank, I want the closest to a sure thing that I can get. Reinhart isn't it.
- buffalofan19

McDavid is. And if this team is as sad next year we will be in the driver seat for him too. We all need to just relax and let the tanking happen for a while. Because its. It getting much better
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Wow...brand new and already beating your chest. You will fit right in with these misfits.

You like the phrase "smart guy" huh?

I love how a center has a 4 goal game and all the sudden he's amazing and everyone who wanted a center should have taken him. Let's give it a bit more than just 15 games ok sport.

- bjm1717


I bet hes just someone who got banned and has a new account. Lots of people ive noticed arent around.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Girgensons can be more than a 3rd liner IMO. Not a star player but he has Dustin Brown potential
- sbroads24



If Girgensons is going to be more than a 3rd liner, his skating needs to improve a lot. He's getting by on pure hustle right now. Unless you have absolute magic hands, which Girgensons does not, that doesn't make you a very good top 6 forward, not on a team that's doing any sort of significant winning anyway.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
McDavid is. And if this team is as sad next year we will be in the driver seat for him too. We all need to just relax and let the tanking happen for a while. Because its. It getting much better
- sbroads24


If we pick first this year, do we leave Reinhart (sp?) in the minors/juniors or wherever he is? That will "help" us suck for 14/15 too
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
Wow...brand new and already beating your chest. You will fit right in with these misfits.

You like the phrase "smart guy" huh?

I love how a center has a 4 goal game and all the sudden he's amazing and everyone who wanted a center should have taken him. Let's give it a bit more than just 15 games ok sport.

- bjm1717

I said it 2 years ago. I said wait a little while, everyone will be female doging and moaning about Grigorenko before you know it. He's (frank)ing 19.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
If we pick first this year, do we leave Reinhart (sp?) in the minors/juniors or wherever he is? That will "help" us suck for 14/15 too
- stashu


for me yes
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
There is a ton of hostility on here today. What is bringing on the anger? We are going to terrible this year. Probably going to be terrible again next year. Firing Darcy at this point won't make a difference. No GM can change the fact that we are bad. This is the first time as a Sabres fan in my life we have ever attempted a real entire rebuild. They are starting from scratch. It needed to be done since no free agent worth anything will come here. Basically we are going to have rebuild with youth and add a few veterans along the way. It's the first time sincd Darcy's tenure that he has admitted they needed to rebuild a different way. In my eyes it's kind of refreshing but none the less frustrating. He is going to be in charge of this rebuild so you better get used to it. If you don't like it stop watching. Female dogging about him isn't going to help. Want to female dog about something look at the play of Stafford and the terrible coaching of Rolston (who I don't think survives the entire season).

Btw I thin Reinhart will be like another Vanek. A great piece but not someone to build around. The 2015 draft is where you find that player
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
I said it 2 years ago. I said wait a little while, everyone will be female doging and moaning about Grigorenko before you know it. He's (frank)ing 19.
- sbroads24

Id say hes a better version of Kaleta. He will do no wrong in the eyes of fans ever
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
Id say hes a better version of Kaleta. He will do no wrong in the eyes of fans ever
- hubie

He's 19.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
There is a ton of hostility on here today. What is bringing on the anger? We are going to terrible this year. Probably going to be terrible again next year. Firing Darcy at this point won't make a difference. No GM can change the fact that we are bad. This is the first time as a Sabres fan in my life we have ever attempted a real entire rebuild. They are starting from scratch. It needed to be done since no free agent worth anything will come here. Basically we are going to have rebuild with youth and add a few veterans along the way. It's the first time sincd Darcy's tenure that he has admitted they needed to rebuild a different way. In my eyes it's kind of refreshing but none the less frustrating. He is going to be in charge of this rebuild so you better get used to it. If you don't like it stop watching. Female dogging about him isn't going to help. Want to female dog about something look at the play of Stafford and the terrible coaching of Rolston (who I don't think survives the entire season).

Btw I thin Reinhart will be like another Vanek. A great piece but not someone to build around. The 2015 draft is where you find that player

- Stripes77



do to positionally, Ill compare to Duchene or Statsny
and you know why im pissed off
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
McDavid is. And if this team is as sad next year we will be in the driver seat for him too. We all need to just relax and let the tanking happen for a while. Because its. It getting much better
- sbroads24



The problem is that it assumes that the Sabres are the only team that will be in this position next year. We have no idea how many other teams will unload, and be a step "behind" the Sabres in their rebuild. The Devils are going to be atrocious for a while. The Rangers can't score, and if they let Lundqvist walk, they could be in a great position for it as well. In fact, I'm almost convinced they will take that road. Philly is in deep crap as well. And that's just the east. Who knows who else will make an organizational decision to unload and rebuild? This method is now widely publicized. You're going to see more teams try to do it, especially for a talent like McDavid. The Sabres will be pretty bad next year as well, but to say they will be in the driver's seat for first overall is way too premature at this point.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
He's 19.
- sbroads24

and?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
Id say hes a better version of Kaleta. He will do no wrong in the eyes of fans ever
- hubie


Eh I wouldn't say that. If he is put in a position to succeed we can talk about his laziness. They need to take the training wheels off of him. The organization isn't doing him any favors at this point
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
Racist?
- RynoBull



Cant be, I'm black.
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