Don't be surprised if they win 6 or more.
They play the leafs 3 times, I see them winning 2 of those games ( leafs will come back to reality) They should beat NJ. And don't be shocked if they beat either or all 3 of these teams,blues,kings and wings. Cause they will look at that game as easy 2 points. Also if Miller plays like he did last night 6 wins is see able.
- Albanian

But we still need to score!!!!

So by your logic you are saying the Penguins drafted Malkin to build around and Crosby was added as a piece? Malkin isn't the centerpiece of that franchise. Crosby is. That's what we are saying here. McDavid is who you build around. Reinhart is who you add to McDavid. Since it has to be backwards due to the timing so be it. Nobody here hates Reinhart but we don't like the idea of having him as our franchise player when we all know that player is coming in the next draft class
- Stripes77

Why are you arguing about so far ahead of time? Do you really think, if we suck next year and win the lottery, that we don't take McDavid??

Why fuss about Reinhart, he's the best this draft has - don't compare him to McDavid, Crosby, etc...

Don't be surprised if they win 6 or more.
They play the leafs 3 times, I see them winning 2 of those games ( leafs will come back to reality) They should beat NJ. And don't be shocked if they beat either or all 3 of these teams,blues,kings and wings. Cause they will look at that game as easy 2 points. Also if Miller plays like he did last night 6 wins is see able.
- Albanian

KINGS AND WINGS?? Not this team. Even if they only score 2 goals, we will find a way to score 1 or 0, just like last night.

So by your logic you are saying the Penguins drafted Malkin to build around and Crosby was added as a piece? Malkin isn't the centerpiece of that franchise. Crosby is. That's what we are saying here. McDavid is who you build around. Reinhart is who you add to McDavid. Since it has to be backwards due to the timing so be it. Nobody here hates Reinhart but we don't like the idea of having him as our franchise player when we all know that player is coming in the next draft class
- Stripes77

Hes godo enough to frank it up for us and us draft 4th

So by your logic you are saying the Penguins drafted Malkin to build around and Crosby was added as a piece? Malkin isn't the centerpiece of that franchise. Crosby is. That's what we are saying here. McDavid is who you build around. Reinhart is who you add to McDavid. Since it has to be backwards due to the timing so be it. Nobody here hates Reinhart but we don't like the idea of having him as our franchise player when we all know that player is coming in the next draft class
- Stripes77

No what I'm saying is that Connor McDavis isnt necessary to win a cup. Either is Crosby. Jonathon Toews won the last one. Anze Kopitar the year before and Patrice Bergeron the year before that. Would it be ideal? Of course but you don't have to have a generational player, you need top 5 talent though

Is Ryan Miller for Wayne Simmonds a good trade? (We'd have to retain like 25% salary)

So who is better off right now, Calgary who has refused to take the draft route to rebuild, and kept signing FA after FA that would do next to nothing, or Colorado that has McKinnon, Duchene and Landeskog? You claimed there was a better way to do this, what way is that?
- sbroads24

What elite FA's did Calgary sign in the past 10 years or so? They signed a bunch of okay and overrated ones, but nobody elite, or even really considered elite. All I said was that you have to acquire an elite player worth building a franchise around. The "easiest" way to do this seems to be the draft, but it can, and has been done via free agency, although this is becoming the distant past. Now, in the cap era, it's a little more difficult. I also said, if you do things right, it shouldn't take 4 years to do anything significant. And I still stand by that.

Also, to answer your question, yes, Colorado is in "better" shape than Calgary, but we still have yet to see if it's good enough. I don't want "better than Team A or B". I want "best". That's the problem with this team. That standard isn't greatness. It's simply "better than we were".

One thing Ill say abotu Reinhart is if hes our second line center for the next 10 years im not unhappy. If hes the 1st line center for 10 years well ill have plenty of early summer nites of golf ahead of me
- hubie

thats what i said about hodgson. its what i said about roy before that. the last #1 center we had was lafontaine. darcy has not drafted, traded for, developed, smuggled, poached, or in any way acquired a #1 center in 16 years.

Why are you arguing about so far ahead of time? Do you really think, if we suck next year and win the lottery, that we don't take McDavid??

Why fuss about Reinhart, he's the best this draft has - don't compare him to McDavid, Crosby, etc...
- stashu

I'm not saying he isn't the best player in this draft. I'll never argue that. But he isn't the franchise player to turn us around. It's a good start but I don't think he can be "the one". That is all I'm saying. Don't expect miracles with him.

thats what i said about hodgson. its what i said about roy before that. the last #1 center we had was lafontaine. darcy has not drafted, traded for, developed, smuggled, poached, or in any way acquired a #1 center in 16 years.
- rover16

I think Drury and Briere in their prime were #1s....

Is Ryan Miller for Wayne Simmonds a good trade? (We'd have to retain like 25% salary)
- Jawallstar1

You cant build a team around Wayne Simmonds so no.

Is Ryan Miller for Wayne Simmonds a good trade? (We'd have to retain like 25% salary)
- Jawallstar1

No. Not right now anyway. As the season continues you might have to take it

What elite FA's did Calgary sign in the past 10 years or so? They signed a bunch of okay and overrated ones, but nobody elite, or even really considered elite. All I said was that you have to acquire an elite player worth building a franchise around. The "easiest" way to do this seems to be the draft, but it can, and has been done via free agency, although this is becoming the distant past. Now, in the cap era, it's a little more difficult. I also said, if you do things right, it shouldn't take 4 years to do anything significant. And I still stand by that.
- buffalofan19

It might not because we are ahead of the curve with a rebuild. The only 2 recent examples of a quick or mini rebuild is Ottawa and Montreal, and neither are contenders. The last team that aquired a bonafide number 1 center via trade or FA is probably San Jose with Thornton and they have yet to win

What elite FA's did Calgary sign in the past 10 years or so? They signed a bunch of okay and overrated ones, but nobody elite, or even really considered elite. All I said was that you have to acquire an elite player worth building a franchise around. The "easiest" way to do this seems to be the draft, but it can, and has been done via free agency, although this is becoming the distant past. Now, in the cap era, it's a little more difficult. I also said, if you do things right, it shouldn't take 4 years to do anything significant. And I still stand by that.

Also, to answer your question, yes, Colorado is in "better" shape than Calgary, but we still have yet to see if it's good enough. I don't want "better than Team A or B". I want "best". That's the problem with this team. That standard isn't greatness. It's simply "better than we were".
- buffalofan19

There isnt a simple formula to winning a cup, but all winners have something in common. An above average level of talent, the best way to get that is through the draft

It might not because we are ahead of the curve with a rebuild. The only 2 recent examples of a quick or mini rebuild is Ottawa and Montreal, and neither are contenders. The last team that aquired a bonafide number 1 center via trade or FA is probably San Jose with Thornton and they have yet to win
- sbroads24

Great drafts with a great scouting dept (and a guy I want with Buffalo ties).
remember pernall karl was ranked very low like alot lower than tj brennan
I may be wrong but where did Brendon Gallagher come from

He doesn't score the first period of game 1 and trade rumors will start!
- Jawallstar1

Or scores 2 goals in one game and needs to be signed for 10 years.

There isnt a simple formula to winning a cup, but all winners have something in common. An above average level of talent, the best way to get that is through the draft
- sbroads24

multiple solid lines

I'm not saying he isn't the best player in this draft. I'll never argue that. But he isn't the franchise player to turn us around. It's a good start but I don't think he can be "the one". That is all I'm saying. Don't expect miracles with him.
- Stripes77

My biggest fear is that Reinhart, assuming they win the lottery and pick him, is good enough to get the Sabres out of the basement but not the playoffs, and they miss out on a decent chance to get McDavid.

multiple solid lines
- hubie

Sounds like my kind of night

My biggest fear is that Reinhart, assuming they win the lottery and pick him, is good enough to get the Sabres out of the basement but not the playoffs, and they miss out on a decent chance to get McDavid.
- buffalofan19

Maybe we should just forfeit the pick..and trade risto, Zadorov and Girgensons for 7th rounders. It guarantees us last place which unfortunately only gives us a 25% chance of getting McDavid.

Plus its the sabres were talking about. We're not getting McDavid while Gary Bettman is in charge.

I'm not saying he isn't the best player in this draft. I'll never argue that. But he isn't the franchise player to turn us around. It's a good start but I don't think he can be "the one". That is all I'm saying. Don't expect miracles with him.
- Stripes77

I just find all the back and forth a bit nuts, since he's the best we could get (currently), so comparing him to McDavid when we're not even in the proper NHL season yet is mind bottling.

Pick any oganization that doesn't pick top5 and you'll see very similar results
Go look at Detroit for example
- jdfitz77

Tomas vanek was picked 5th overall,where did they get us

Great drafts with a great scouting dept (and a guy I want with Buffalo ties).
remember pernall karl was ranked very low like alot lower than tj brennan
I may be wrong but where did Brendon Gallagher come from
- hubie

I want the exact opposite.

My biggest fear is that Reinhart, assuming they win the lottery and pick him, is good enough to get the Sabres out of the basement but not the playoffs, and they miss out on a decent chance to get McDavid.
- buffalofan19

+1 I dont want Benoit Poulit

My biggest fear is that Reinhart, assuming they win the lottery and pick him, is good enough to get the Sabres out of the basement but not the playoffs, and they miss out on a decent chance to get McDavid.
- buffalofan19

It's possible but take out Ott Miller and perhaps Ehrhoff we are still a lottery team in my eyes