Talbot was in no way shape or form a top 9 in terms of scoring... But he was an excellent pk specialist and checking forward let alone being quite durable... If they wanted downie they should have moved something like Rinaldo or got better for talbot.
- JoeRussomanno

What do you think is fair value for Talbot? A 4th line grinder who is a great guy and PK specialist? When I first saw this, I said wow, the Avs gave up a lot for Talbot..

Never said I don't like giroux just the fact is he's over rated and over paid...
- JoeRussomanno

Giroux resembles that remark

After they screwed with the best player they ever had (Bure) and then brought in Messier I totally lost interest in that team forever.
- rockychocbill

Okay... point taken.

I know he won't score a goal this year, because my expectations are reasonable.
- BulliesPhan87

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He's mediocre just like the last two teams he's been on... That's great Colorado got off to a huge start... Let me know where they are in the spring... Prolly playing golf with our squad and watching the playoffs later.
- JoeRussomanno

The last FULL season, 2011-2012..

Detroit finished the season with 5 players breaking 40 points..
SJ-5
Mtl-4
Col-3
NYI-5
Pit-6
NJ-5
Phi-6
OTT-4

Thats just the few teams I looked at.

That means his career avg... as NFG posted... 17 G 28 A 45 points over 82 games would have been good enough for 3rd line on every team, and second line on all but 2..


edit: looking back, his avg would be good enough for 2nd line on all of those teams, strictly point total wise.

Pretty much this.

Laughton was going to be eating into Talbot's role next season and beyond as well... irrespective of what they decide to do w/ Downie after this year.
- Tomahawk

Another good point. If this season doesn't improve, Downie can be moved at the TDL for a decent asset.

I'm gonna root for him no doubt... I like having some edge but I think homer fired and missed big time...
- JoeRussomanno

Downie said he really likes the fans in Philly, so you know not sure what else you can ask for really. #tradewon

Apparently he's been a great contributor to his two most recent teams. Yet they have both found reason to shed him. That adds up to 3 chances by my math. But you're right, it can take some people a LONNNNNG time, even a lifetime, to mature. The Flyers have always loved bringing their ex-wives to the party anyways. Why should this surprise any of us I suppose.
- rockychocbill

Sorry Bill, but the bias is clear. Downie may or may not work out here. But I'm going to be objective and see what happens.

Sure. Do you really think that game will be worth $200? I only bought them because I had a $100 Ticketmaster GC burning a hole in my desk drawer since last Christmas. I should have bought tickets to the Nutcracker. Oh wait............
- rockychocbill

worth $200? probably not, but its a chance to see them this year...
oh well I can't win this argument, not going to even try

What do you think is fair value for Talbot? A 4th line grinder who is a great guy and PK specialist? When I first saw this, I said wow, the Avs gave up a lot for Talbot..
- Hextall271

Anything I say is gonna get picked apart by the same people who though I was crazy last summer when I told them that homer shat the bed big time...

Simply stating that Downie is better than the worst 3 forwards in a team's starting lineup isn't that outlandish of a defense
- mcefalu

No, but the outrage/disbelief that (too) many folks here have that some of us just don't like Downie the player and their trying to cram his stats down our throats with each and every post is a bit tiring.

giroux has been suspended more times over the last 4 years than downie

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- -davies-

THIS!

Sorry Bill, but the bias is clear. Downie may or may not work out here. But I'm going to be objective and see what happens.
- MJL

Was my location the dead giveaway?

Downie said he really likes the fans in Philly, so you know not sure what else you can ask for really. #tradewon
- mcefalu

Oh well, excuse me he likes the fans! Holy jumping poop waffles batman, book the mummers for the parade this june!

Anything I say is gonna get picked apart by the same people who though I was crazy last summer when I told them that homer shat the bed big time...
- JoeRussomanno

but Homer really likes this team

Downie said he really likes the fans in Philly, so you know not sure what else you can ask for really. #tradewon
- mcefalu

I hear he was just one the Fan590, and said he's always dreamed of playing for the Flyers a second time after being traded away.

Another good point. If this season doesn't improve, Downie can be moved at the TDL for a decent asset.
- PLindbergh31

and would likely bring more back than towelbutt...

Anything I say is gonna get picked apart by the same people who though I was crazy last summer when I told them that homer shat the bed big time...
- JoeRussomanno

Im not picking anything a part.. I just was wondering what your thought process was on why you dont think he is a top 9 player, when statistically speaking, and where he has played his entire career, beg to differ.

giroux has been suspended more times over the last 4 years than downie

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- -davies-

and he's a flopper now too

No, but the outrage/disbelief that (too) many folks here have that some of us just don't like Downie the player and their trying to cram his stats down our throats with each and every post is a bit tiring.
- Scoob

Scoob, it's been stated that it's okay that someone doesn't like Downie, because of his past. But that doesn't change the facts of the deal. And that the Flyers got the better player in the deal.

No, but the outrage/disbelief that (too) many folks here have that some of us just don't like Downie the player and their trying to cram his stats down our throats with each and every post is a bit tiring.
- Scoob

The fact they use his stats as a defense baffles me...
It's like getting a potential employee referred to you and on his résumé it says border line failure in school... Misses work constantly has mediocre work.. Yes let me hire him!

Giroux resembles that remark
- vejim

Wow, Giroux's had a bad start and needs to get going but, I don't think he's overrated, nor should we be looking to move him or anything like that. I don't want the team to start another overhaul like the Carts and Richie one.. I also don't want Homer making too many moves from this position of weakness.

but Homer really likes this team
- vejim

Downie is 25. If we can keep this teams core and deal with the growing pains... I completely agree with Homer. This teams has immense potential in a few years. Just need smart timely moves.

The Downie Defense Team is large and powerful, RCB. Let it go.
- Scoob

DDT lolz

and he's a flopper now too
- Marc D

Who, Giroux? Not sure how much flopping you can do from the perimeter.