So, the Flyers get a better, younger player and people will be laughing at the Flyers?
- Jsaquella

Downie is a UFA at seasons end isn't he? You looking forward to overpaying a fringe top 9 player who wears out a path to the sin bin?

The rest of the league has to be laughing at this deal. From any outsider's point of view the Avs win the trade hands down, with Philly throwing a dumbass clown into the line-up.

The Avs being on fire made this deal why? To give Philly a favour? Out of all the players on their winning team they found Downie to be expendable in the re-build. Maybe that should say something.
- flyer_nutter

really? from comments and trade analysis's I've read most seem to think the Flyers got the better of the deal.

Downie is a UFA at seasons end isn't he? You looking forward to overpaying a fringe top 9 player who wears out a path to the sin bin?
- PLindbergh31

I know i am.

Ready....

Coburn, Mason, Couturier for Yakupov, Hemsky, and Labarbara.

Emery, Simmonds, Meszaros, Cousins for Halak and J-bo.


Hartnell-Giroux-Yakupov
Downie-Lecavalier-Voracek
Read-Schenn-Hemsky
McGinn-Holmstrom-Rinaldo

Timonen-J-Bo
Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Gustefsson

Halak
Lebarbara

- youarewrong

please stop taking drugs.

Downie is a UFA at seasons end isn't he? You looking forward to overpaying a fringe top 9 player who wears out a path to the sin bin?
- PLindbergh31

he's not a fringe top 9. He's been playing on the first line for years, both with the Avs and TB.

So, the Flyers get a better, younger player and people will be laughing at the Flyers?
- Jsaquella

I would be.

Downie is a moron who risks putting your team in a hole every night he plays. The best (frank)ing part is you need to give him at raise on top of the 2.65 million/year he makes now.

Why the (frank) not wait until he hits UFA status? Deal Talbot at the deadline. Short-sighted move. For a stupid player who will want 3+ million at the end of the year.

he's not a fringe top 9. He's been playing on the first line for years, both with the Avs and TB.
- FlyerGuy

He's 26 and has one 40 point season. Geez...

a media person told me: "I heard he's up for the Russian Olympic teeam and a Russian official said he's being framed to rig the Games"
- nastyflyergirl

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 4h
Igor Ananskikh, the law-maker who said Varlamov's arrest is an American Olympic plot, represents LDPR. Known in Russia as "The Clown Party"

for what it's worth

he's not a fringe top 9. He's been playing on the first line for years, both with the Avs and TB.
- FlyerGuy

He's a top-9, but he's gotta get paid like a top-6. We have too many players like that right now. Which tells me either a) he's a long-term rental or b) another trade is a-coming.

a media person told me: "I heard he's up for the Russian Olympic teeam and a Russian official said he's being framed to rig the Games"
- nastyflyergirl

Bryz put on a Varlamov mask, snuck into his house and beat his wife so he can play for team Russia. Make perfect sense.

he's not a fringe top 9. He's been playing on the first line for years, both with the Avs and TB.
- FlyerGuy

Why in such a young career has he been dealt so many times.

Why if he is so good, did the Avs decide he was expendable from their re-build, for a 4th liner in Max Talbot.

Downie is a (frank)ing joke, who will want a raise at the end of the season.

He's 26 and has one 40 point season. Geez...
- PLindbergh31

what's your definition of a top 9 forward? 21 and 90 point seasons?

The rest of the league has to be laughing at this deal. From any outsider's point of view the Avs win the trade hands down, with Philly throwing a dumbass clown into the line-up.

The Avs being on fire made this deal why? To give Philly a favour? Out of all the players on their winning team they found Downie to be expendable in the re-build. Maybe that should say something.
- flyer_nutter

actually HNIC show saying "great deal for Philly" & waiting to hear about more coming to COL...flyers got the better plyr and you know i'm no homer fan

really? from comments and trade analysis's I've read most seem to think the Flyers got the better of the deal.
- FlyerGuy

Im sure Holmgren is working on a 3.5 million/year extension as we speak !

Downie is a UFA at seasons end isn't he? You looking forward to overpaying a fringe top 9 player who wears out a path to the sin bin?
- PLindbergh31

Nobody's said they're going to re-sign him. I don;t have an issue with the deal. Max Talbot is a solid 4th liner. I don't think they'll miss a beat if they shift Raffl down to the 4th line, in all honesty.

Where my concerns lie is on the PK and Downie staying disciplined. The second is an obvious one, no need to rehash his history. The PK worries me, because it could mean that Rinaldo gets shifts there or that Giroux starts seeing more PK time, which, IMO is a huge mistake.

But I also feel another deal is coming, and it may provide clarity to alleve those concerns.

Why in such a young career has he been dealt so many times.

Why if he is so good, did the Avs decide he was expendable from their re-build, for a 4th liner in Max Talbot.

Downie is a (frank)ing joke, who will want a raise at the end of the season.
- flyer_nutter

lots of players are dealt multiple times. It's the exception when a player is only with one club nowadays.

Downie of 5 or 6 years ago was a joke. The guy's game has changed a lot.

please stop taking drugs.
- PhillaBully

really, you should start.

In other words, you don't know what you have until it's gone.
- jmatchett383

Cinderella fan?

Downie is a UFA at seasons end isn't he? You looking forward to overpaying a fringe top 9 player who wears out a path to the sin bin?
- PLindbergh31

The counterpoint: If the Flyers decide not to move forward with Downie, it frees up his cap hit.

I don't exactly know why they made this deal, because I just don't see where Downie fits, but if Downie doesn't fit, it's not like there is a law that says the Flyers HAVE to re-sign him, is there?

Cinderella fan?


- Tomahawk

Delaware County's own.

He's a top-9, but he's gotta get paid like a top-6. We have too many players like that right now. Which tells me either a) he's a long-term rental or b) another trade is a-coming.
- jmatchett383

Its hilarious. I cant wait to see the new deal for Downie.

Lets see Holmgren overpay for more mediocrity, for some moron who hasnt been able to stay disciplined for more than a few games.

Turning into a joke of a franchise move by move. Why not wait for him as a UFA at seasons end and deal Talbot at the deadline?! Or why even sign such a dumbass player in the first place. Unreal.

I would be.

Downie is a moron who risks putting your team in a hole every night he plays. The best (frank)ing part is you need to give him at raise on top of the 2.65 million/year he makes now.

Why the (frank) not wait until he hits UFA status? Deal Talbot at the deadline. Short-sighted move. For a stupid player who will want 3+ million at the end of the year.
- flyer_nutter

If Downie comes in and plays well, he'll have more value at the trade deadline than Talbot.

Most analysts I see discussing the trade think the Flyers got a good deal & were surprised that all the Flyers gave up was Talbot.

lots of players are dealt multiple times. It's the exception when a player is only with one club nowadays.

Downie of 5 or 6 years ago was a joke. The guy's game has changed a lot.
- FlyerGuy

We will see. Im just going to wait for the nice overpaid extension Holmgren will give him. Injury prone to boot. Wonderful!

Nobody's said they're going to re-sign him. I don;t have an issue with the deal. Max Talbot is a solid 4th liner. I don't think they'll miss a beat if they shift Raffl down to the 4th line, in all honesty.

Where my concerns lie is on the PK and Downie staying disciplined. The second is an obvious one, no need to rehash his history. The PK worries me, because it could mean that Rinaldo gets shifts there or that Giroux starts seeing more PK time, which, IMO is a huge mistake.

But I also feel another deal is coming, and it may provide clarity to alleve those concerns.
- Jsaquella

They are desperate for offense, no question. I think Talbot was an effective player for his cap hit.

Talbot is one of the top PK guys on the team, does Downie's offensive ability offset Talbot's PK ability? I guess we are going to find out. I don't like it. If there is a 50% chance Downie isn't re-signed, they basically just gave Talbot away for nothing.

Nobody's said they're going to re-sign him. I don;t have an issue with the deal. Max Talbot is a solid 4th liner. I don't think they'll miss a beat if they shift Raffl down to the 4th line, in all honesty.

Where my concerns lie is on the PK and Downie staying disciplined. The second is an obvious one, no need to rehash his history. The PK worries me, because it could mean that Rinaldo gets shifts there or that Giroux starts seeing more PK time, which, IMO is a huge mistake.

But I also feel another deal is coming, and it may provide clarity to alleve those concerns.
- Jsaquella

talbot is overpaid for what he brings. glad to get out of that deal