SnapitUpstairs
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Location: CHICAGO, IL Joined: 02.03.2012
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Unlike baseball, I am not sure that any metrics can take into account the guy in the middle of the action. The goalie. A hot goalie negates a lot of those stats. Though , I am sure teams use them to self scout. - Elbows15
>Vastly different game, no doubt
>Requires vastly different metrics that are still in the infancy stages compared to baseball which is driven by individual actions
>There are ways to evaluate players individual strengths and weaknesses that go beyond the eye test (but support it)
>Not talking about crunching the numbers given by the NHL -- talking about focusing on very specific ways to evaluate a player
>NHL teams are already doing this
>To me, there is still a bit too much "assumption" surrounding what players do on the ice vs. what they actually do
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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It isn't a team photo without Greg Fox, Al. - Elbows15
Fox actually accumulated some points in the NHL... |
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prd797
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Location: Scotland Joined: 06.17.2012
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Been raining all day here NW of Chicago..I bought 48 pieces of candy and have given out 1... - Glenman12
I didn't get any trick-or-treaters either due to the rain, but then again it's always raining where I am. |
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UnnamedSource
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Location: Local Mall, IL Joined: 01.03.2012
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Where to? - rtang415
My son and I will be heading to DC.....then to kings court and ocean city. |
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CBHawks88
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Location: Pallie Joined: 07.05.2012
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Well yeah, except for the racist part. - Elbows15
My grandfather is EXACTLY like the character in that movie...
He's an elder Irish-Chicagoan (Vet & former CPD as well) & a hardcore racist
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UnnamedSource
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Location: Local Mall, IL Joined: 01.03.2012
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Thanks for the PMs gentlemen...... much obliged |
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Beaver-Warrior
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Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom Joined: 07.28.2011
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Traveling to Virginia in July.... - UnnamedSource
To eat at the Joe's Steakhouse in Front Royal? |
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UnnamedSource
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Location: Local Mall, IL Joined: 01.03.2012
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To eat at the Joe's Steakhouse in Front Royal? - Beaver-Warrior
Port land is on our list as well for another trip. |
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rtang415
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Location: Palatine, IL Joined: 02.07.2009
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My son and I will be heading to DC.....then to kings court and ocean city. - UnnamedSource
We are about 3 hours southeast of DC. About and hour and a half from the Outer Banks. |
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UnnamedSource
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Location: Local Mall, IL Joined: 01.03.2012
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We are about 3 hours southeast of DC. About and hour and a half from the Outer Banks. - rtang415
Never been to Virginia...... did Boston, Vermont, new Hampshire and bar harbor Maine this summer. |
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Chicago
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Location: IL Joined: 11.12.2009
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Does JJ not comment anymore in his blogs? |
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Beaver-Warrior
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Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom Joined: 07.28.2011
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Port land is on our list as well for another trip. - UnnamedSource
Nice,nice. I'm roughly 2 hours south of Ptown. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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>Vastly different game, no doubt
>Requires vastly different metrics that are still in the infancy stages compared to baseball which is driven by individual actions
>There are ways to evaluate players individual strengths and weaknesses that go beyond the eye test (but support it)
>Not talking about crunching the numbers given by the NHL -- talking about focusing on very specific ways to evaluate a player
>NHL teams are already doing this
>To me, there is still a bit too much "assumption" surrounding what players do on the ice vs. what they actually do - SnapitUpstairs
One major difference in accumulating data is the NHL involves more subjectivity than other sports. |
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rtang415
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Location: Palatine, IL Joined: 02.07.2009
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Never been to Virginia...... did Boston, Vermont, new Hampshire and bar harbor Maine this summer. - UnnamedSource
This is the real Virginia down here. |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Q...argh
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There was never a shortage of drunks at the old barn. Man, I loved that place. - Elbows15
What I don't miss is getting drenched when the drunks spilled their beer. |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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What I don't miss is getting drenched when the drunks spilled their beer. - Q...argh
Nothing wrong with the occasional beer shower. It's good for your skin. So soft |
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Beaver-Warrior
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Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom Joined: 07.28.2011
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This is the real Virginia down here. - rtang415
Speaking from personal experience, couple years in Warren County. Yep. |
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philco28
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Location: Mississauga, ON Joined: 12.06.2011
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It's everywhere. Sadly. - Ogilthorpe2
True that...lot of people get phucked up because of SELFISH IMPULSES.
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rtang415
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Location: Palatine, IL Joined: 02.07.2009
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Nothing wrong with the occasional beer shower. It's good for your skin. So soft - Ogilthorpe2
Beer Shower=Ambience |
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philco28
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Location: Mississauga, ON Joined: 12.06.2011
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SnapitUpstairs
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Location: CHICAGO, IL Joined: 02.03.2012
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One major difference in accumulating data is the NHL involves more subjectivity than other sports. - Al
>Very true, but some of the current "hot" fielding data in MLB is layered with subjectivity -- assumptions are made about a player's range, etc.
>My long-winded point in all this is this: Hawks can win a game, say 4-1 but have one of their Dmen cause 5 unforced icings (stat sheet) -- other team doesn't score of any draws (but on another night?)
>Coach sees stat sheet and quickly looks at the tape loop set up on those plays to see what happened -- all bad passes? Dman not moving his feet? players stop skating or miss good passes?
>If indeed 5 unforced bad breakout passes, Dman needs to fix it, right away |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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Sounds like a TV soap opera plot. - Beaver-Warrior
Or the Chicago Cubs, Sandberg era. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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My grandfather is EXACTLY like the character in that movie...
He's an elder Irish-Chicagoan (Vet & former CPD as well) & a hardcore racist
- CBHawks88
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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What I don't miss is getting drenched when the drunks spilled their beer. - Q...argh
Was that you? Sorry. |
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