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daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Fans - not participation.
- Woderwick

seems more relevant
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
These Go Leafs Go chants must just infuriate Western Canada. I can't wait to hear it on Saturday in Vancouver.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
The problem is threefold:

1) How do you define popularity? Attendance? Viewership? Amateur participation?

2) If attendance or viewership are considered, do you use average or total? By total attendance, MLB is the biggest league in the world. By average, the CFL is top ten. You can see the flaws with both approaches.

3) Participation numbers for various sports globally have about a 0% chance of being reliable for most countries.

- Leeman4Gilmour


soccer is still number one though
think of all the poor people who play soccer, half of them don't even have electricity

PS
cfl is horrible
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
The problem is threefold:

1) How do you define popularity? Attendance? Viewership? Amateur participation?

2) If attendance or viewership are considered, do you use average or total? By total attendance, MLB is the biggest league in the world. By average, the CFL is top ten. You can see the flaws with both approaches.

3) Participation numbers for various sports globally have about a 0% chance of being reliable for most countries.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Not a chance. Soccer's global and they're stuffing 100,000 people in a stadium in those Mexican, South American and African leagues.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
Not a chance. Soccer's global and they're stuffing 100,000 people in a stadium in those Mexican, South American and African leagues.
- gravyface

in terms of total attendance the mlb dominates. nothing is even really close.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
you would also have to specify most played or watched I guess. the lists would be different..with soccer #1 on both
- senstroll

You'd have to put running high on the list for participation.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
soccer is still number one though
think of all the poor people who play soccer, half of them don't even have electricity

PS
cfl is horrible

- Sammich


I didn't realize how boring the CFL is until I got involved with fantasy football a few years back and started watching the NFL all the time.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
EVERYBODY FOCUS ON THE GAME!!!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
wrong way more fans at baseball games and more games played
- jribout


agree to disagree

all that matters is Hockey is most popular in my house

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
In the world.

Rugby is popular in the UK.

Less so in France.

Trying to catch on in Italy.

Fringe sport in North America.

One country in South America likes it.

NZ is a tiny country.

Parts of Australia like it.

South Africa.

A bunch of tiny island countries.

That's about it.

- Atomic Wedgie

And it's popular on your street thanks to that famous Fullback, Wedgie - or was he a Hooker?
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
Not a chance. Soccer's global and they're stuffing 100,000 people in a stadium in those Mexican, South American and African leagues.
- gravyface


They play so few games, though. MLB draws like 3 times more fans through the turnstiles than the Premier League.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
I didn't realize how boring the CFL is until I got involved with fantasy football a few years back and started watching the NFL all the time.
- Leeman4Gilmour


how the hell do you have a FF league for the cfl?
Is it just you against a friend?
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
These Go Leafs Go chants must just infuriate Western Canada. I can't wait to hear it on Saturday in Vancouver.
- Jeffmt


I'm more bothered by TSN saying "Here watch the Leafs/Flames on TSN and TSN2 instead of us doing some pregame on TSN2"
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
You'd have to put running high on the list for participation.
- Atomic Wedgie


This.

What about the vaguely defined, "track and field"? I'd wager every able-bodied person on this earth has raced somebody at some point.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
how the hell do you have a FF league for the cfl?
Is it just you against a friend?

- Sammich

Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
I'm more bothered by TSN saying "Here watch the Leafs/Flames on TSN and TSN2 instead of us doing some pregame on TSN2"
- DTF69



No one cares about the Nucks outside BC...
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:41 PM ET
They play so few games, though. MLB draws like 3 times more fans through the turnstiles than the Premier League.
- Leeman4Gilmour


The leagues themselves don't play often. Usually once a week. But there are all sorts of interleague stuff and friendlies that it probably averages out to more.

And not even close to every MLB game even sniffs 50% capacity.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:41 PM ET
They play so few games, though. MLB draws like 3 times more fans through the turnstiles than the Premier League.
- Leeman4Gilmour


Premier is just one league though. How many soccer leagues are there worldwide? Some of the stadium sizes are absolutely ridiculous too. In fact, MLB probably isn't even the top attended North American sport if you include NCAA football.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:41 PM ET
Not a chance. Soccer's global and they're stuffing 100,000 people in a stadium in those Mexican, South American and African leagues.
- gravyface



On a purely spectator basis, not sure.

162 x 30 x 50K per year is a huge number for baseball in North America alone.
144 x 12 x 40k per year in Japan
add rest of the worlds leagues...not sure on live viewership then anyone can beat baseball numbers

On popularity and participation, it's not a question that Soccer is king.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:41 PM ET
how the hell do you have a FF league for the cfl?
Is it just you against a friend?

- Sammich


No, no. I got involved with NFL FF and that's how I got exposed to it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:42 PM ET
And it's popular on your street thanks to that famous Fullback, Wedgie - or was he a Hooker?
- Woderwick

Scrum half, actually.

It's why I wear #9 in hockey.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:43 PM ET
The leagues themselves don't play often. Usually once a week. But there are all sorts of interleague stuff and friendlies that it probably averages out to more.

And not even close to every MLB game even sniffs 50% capacity.

- DTF69


The MLB has the highest total attendance. This is a fact.

You may look it up on Wikipedia to confirm. It's not close.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
No, no. I got involved with NFL FF and that's how I got exposed to it.
- Leeman4Gilmour



Head to head football pools are one of the best type of pools out there.
I am in 3!
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
On a purely spectator basis, not sure.

162 x 30 x 50K per year is a huge number for baseball in North America alone.
144 x 12 x 40k per year in Japan
add rest of the worlds leagues...not sure on live viewership then anyone can beat baseball numbers

On popularity and participation, it's not a question that Soccer is king.

- Cooshie


This is using the flawed assumption that every MLB team is selling out every game. Many don't even come close.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Oct 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
The MLB has the highest total attendance. This is a fact.

You may look it up on Wikipedia to confirm. It's not close.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Long hair don't care.
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