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JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Oct 29 @ 3:47 PM ET
Nope...not even close...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
Why did you skip the top 2 teams in the west?
- HuileHab

They're one and two points ahead of the Canucks, also, San Jose has such a deep lineup compared to the Canucks I think Hank has SO FAR been more valuable to his team than any one Shark player. As for Colorado, I haven't watched them enough to give an informed opinion.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 29 @ 3:49 PM ET
Freakorenko
- glove_was_stuck



yes yes yes...

he's otherworldly.

apparently.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 3:51 PM ET
Why did you skip the top 2 teams in the west?
- HuileHab

you don't need to be top of the standings imo.

but some team success is paramount, which then begs the question; where is this team without said player?

the nucks aren't a bad team but are they upper echelon without hank? probably not.

same goes for stamkos. but even a step further perhaps. tbay might actually be terrible without him
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Oct 29 @ 3:56 PM ET
What a joke. How much suckier would his 5-7 team be without him? And who would care? After 12 games, Duchene more valuable than Ovechkin, by a mile.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
yes yes yes...

he's otherworldly.

apparently.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Complete. Player.
Brad Ratgen
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 01.29.2006

Oct 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
Crosby gets my vote at this point in the season, followed by Stamkos then maybe O.V.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
Crosby is more valuable to the Penguins then most people think. Interesting stat:

Crosby has been on the ice for 24 of the Penguins 38 goals (63%), which is a higher % then Stamkos (20 of 39, 51%) and Ovechkin (18 of 34, 53%)
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Oct 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Crosby gets my vote at this point in the season, followed by Stamkos then maybe O.V.
- Brad Ratgen


You do realize it is "Most valuable player", not "Best player", right? How valuable is anyone on a 5 and 7 team?
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Oct 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
You're joking, right?

Guy puts up points playing in a soft division, and still can't put together a decent record.

If he's the MVP, why not give Dubnyk the Vezina for trying.

Good lord...
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Oct 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Eklund: Is Ovechkin the NHL MVP So Far?
- Eklund


he was until this road trip. i will go with Crosby or Duchene
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
Crosby is more valuable to the Penguins then most people think. Interesting stat:

Crosby has been on the ice for 24 of the Penguins 38 goals (63%), which is a higher % then Stamkos (20 of 39, 51%) and Ovechkin (18 of 34, 53%)

- cap1681

no question he's important. he's the best player in the world. but when hes not playing, do they struggle to score, or do the goals get spread around more?
do they fail to stay near the same spot in standings?

hell, they've got another player who's top 5 in the world too. who's also won a hart. how can they have 2 mvps?
id argue malkins was well deserved by carrying the team during crosbys absence
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
MVP should just be the best player, not 'Most Valuable'.
- StaalsnUrinals



so then it would just be BP, not giving the MVP to the most "valuable" player seems kind of stupid, no?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
well sorry, hes had like 3 NHL seasons and was hurt for basically an entire season.

so yeah like 25% of his career he has been hurt.

i thought it was 2 years, but like u said it was ankel and groin same season...thats something, wouldnt you say?

- big_dion


This is his 5th season, and he missed a grand total of 24 games that one season. Hurt his ankle, tried to play through it, then hurt his groin bc he favoured his ankle coming back too early.

I think playing 92% of the possible games he has been in the league. Yeah injury plagued for sure.
shanekern03
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "Cough, cough, cough.... yeah, thats it. Thats the ticket." - Garth
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
no question he's important. he's the best player in the world. but when hes not playing, do they struggle to score, or do the goals get spread around more?
do they fail to stay near the same spot in standings?

hell, they've got another player who's top 5 in the world too. who's also won a hart. how can they have 2 mvps?
id argue malkins was well deserved by carrying the team during crosbys absence

- hugefemale dog77


Couldn't agree more

Edit: Anyone think gvt should be taken into consideration? It does defense, offense, shootout. Guess it doesn't cover quality of the team they play for, line mates and other intangibles so gvt would never be taken seriously in everyone's eyes but maybe as a tie-breaker.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 29 @ 4:49 PM ET
People laughed when I suggested Duchene had a really good chance at making the Canadian Olympic team. If he keep up this pace, I'd say he's a lock. He's making plays, scoring, solid two way game and wins the majority of the faceoffs.

That being said, the MVP is almost always given to the player who gets the most goals or points. Barring no major setbacks this year, it goes to Sid, hands down.

- Canuckleafer




stop talking hockey with idiots.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 29 @ 4:53 PM ET
No. Look to the West Ek.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
stop talking hockey with idiots.
- SpoiledByOil


Duchene is hockey porn.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Couldn't agree more

Edit: Anyone think gvt should be taken into consideration? It does defense, offense, shootout. Guess it doesn't cover quality of the team they play for, line mates and other intangibles so gvt would never be taken seriously in everyone's eyes but maybe as a tie-breaker.

- shanekern03

gvt is a reasonable idea for tiebreaker and such.

I think it might actually already be in some cases, at least in a non tangible way if you follow.

eg; perrys win over sedin in 2011 although he had less points.

he dominated the bulk of the year without getzlaf, while sedin had the best team in the league alongside him. as well as his brother who was also an elite player and the reigning mvp...?????

but at the end of the day, my original point was that I don't think d sedin shoulda even been nominated. a decent argument coulda made he wasn't even the most valuable on his own team. doesn't this completely exclude a player?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Duchene is hockey porn.
- glove_was_stuck

he is
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
He sure hasn't shown it the last two games.
- Itsjustarash


Gets shutdown by half an ahl defense in Calgary and then is invisible in van city .... An MVP would have sniped the penalty shot
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
You're joking, right?

Guy puts up points playing in a soft division, and still can't put together a decent record.

If he's the MVP, why not give Dubnyk the Vezina for trying.

Good lord...

- OzBolts


that sums it up very nicely.

seriously though... people do say that Dubnyk does try really hard
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
You do realize it is "Most valuable player", not "Best player", right? How valuable is anyone on a 5 and 7 team?
- MartiniMan


hey - where did you get that picture.. .I've been trying to find the name of that brand of table hockey set for ages? had one as a small kid... mom sold it at a garage sale
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 29 @ 5:17 PM ET
You're joking, right?

Guy puts up points playing in a soft division, and still can't put together a decent record.

If he's the MVP, why not give Dubnyk the Vezina for trying.

Good lord...

- OzBolts



... wait.... screw you
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Oct 29 @ 5:18 PM ET
Duchene. Has one goal less than Ovi so far, with half the shot attempts. And is the #1 center on a 10-1 team.
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