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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:50 PM ET
I'm liking the name Ry & Ginger for the top line.
- golfingsince


Some guy came up with Hank Dank and the Yank.

I hope you don't mind if I just call them the Sedin /Kesler line.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 7:50 PM ET
Interesting to read the "Moulson's record is what it is thanks to Tavares" comments. He's played alongside Taveres for the past 4 years so it's impossible to get a parallel comparison (until now of course). But apart from the Anson Carters of there world (when his success was so obviously linked to the Sedins), nearly every goal-scorer of repute can attribute the levels of their success to the quality of their linemates. The list of players who can consistently carry a line on their own is short indeed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:50 PM ET
I was think it was cumulative now I have to re work my strategy. You guys are screwed now that I know what I'm doing
- Yeti1181



I feel pretty safe up in 2nd.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:52 PM ET
Interesting to read the "Moulson's record is what it is thanks to Tavares" comments. He's played alongside Taveres for the past 4 years so it's impossible to get a parallel comparison (until now of course). But apart from the Anson Carters of there world (when his success was so obviously linked to the Sedins), nearly every goal-scorer of repute can attribute the levels of their success to the quality of their linemates. The list of players who can consistently carry a line on their own is short indeed.
- AlexF



True, but Tavares is regarded as one of the top 10, possibly top 5 players in the world. He's not just any old decent linemate.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 29 @ 7:53 PM ET
A dozen goals? Are we talking about Ryan Johnson here? His stick is where any offensive momentum went to die. A lot of people wanted an upgrade on him at the time since he was fairly ineffective outside of blocking shots and faceoffs and was constantly injured.
- Nucker101


My bad, thought we were talking Manny.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 29 @ 7:53 PM ET
Some guy came up with Hank Dank and the Yank.

I hope you don't mind if I just call them the Sedin /Kesler line.

- VANTEL


Call them what you want buddy, they won't listen to you anyways.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 29 @ 7:57 PM ET
A dozen goals? Are we talking about Ryan Johnson here? His stick is where any offensive momentum went to die. A lot of people wanted an upgrade on him at the time since he was fairly ineffective outside of blocking shots and faceoffs and was constantly injured.
- Nucker101

Aside from a top 6 playmaker, I think a 4th liner center who is elite in the circle is a pressing need. Tanev, Booth and Schroader for Flieschman and Goc? Haven't checked but I believe Marcel G is a good face off man
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:58 PM ET
My bad, thought we were talking Manny.
- golfingsince



No worries. Manny before his eye-injury was definitely an effective payer and an important piece.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:59 PM ET
Aside from a top 6 playmaker, I think a 4th liner center who is elite in the circle is a pressing need. Tanev, Booth and Schroader for Flieschman and Goc? Haven't checked but I believe Marcel G is a good face off man
- Bieksa#3



I'm fine with Richardson at the 4LC spot to be honest. Assuming that a top 6 skilled player was acquired, I believe Richardson would get bumped down to that spot permanently when everyone is healthy. I'd like to see more of Welsh as well, he looked decent last night.

Tallon would laugh hanging up the phone at that offer IMO.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 29 @ 8:00 PM ET
Interesting to read the "Moulson's record is what it is thanks to Tavares" comments. He's played alongside Taveres for the past 4 years so it's impossible to get a parallel comparison (until now of course). But apart from the Anson Carters of there world (when his success was so obviously linked to the Sedins), nearly every goal-scorer of repute can attribute the levels of their success to the quality of their linemates. The list of players who can consistently carry a line on their own is short indeed.
- AlexF

I'm gonna take some flack for this but I'll take JT over Stamkos any day. Tavaras made Brad "nobody wants me" Boyes into a nice point produced. IMO Stamkos is a modern day Brett Hull
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:00 PM ET
True, but Tavares is regarded as one of the top 10, possibly top 5 players in the world. He's not just any old decent linemate.
- Nucker101


Neither are St Louis or Henrik, but we still consider(ed) Stamkos and Daniel to be amongst the league's best snipers when they're putting up big totals. Just saying.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 29 @ 8:00 PM ET
I'm fine with Richardson at the 4LC spot to be honest. Assuming that a top 6 skilled player was acquired, I believe Richardson would get bumped down to that spot permanently when everyone is healthy. I'd like to see more of Welsh as well, he looked decent last night.

Tallon would laugh hanging up the phone at that offer IMO.

- Nucker101

I just think we need more face off wins.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:02 PM ET
Aside from a top 6 playmaker, I think a 4th liner center who is elite in the circle is a pressing need. Tanev, Booth and Schroader for Flieschman and Goc? Haven't checked but I believe Marcel G is a good face off man
- Bieksa#3


I like Welsh as our current 4 th line center. He has size,he is cheap and I think he will develop nicely. We also have Lain on the farm who might fill that roll in the next two years.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:03 PM ET
I'm gonna take some flack for this but I'll take JT over Stamkos any day. Tavaras made Brad "nobody wants me" Boyes into a nice point produced. IMO Stamkos is a modern day Brett Hull
- Bieksa#3


I've daydreamed about having St Louis on our 2nd line for longer than I can remember.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:03 PM ET
Neither is St Louis or Henrik, but we still consider(ed) Stamkos and Daniel to be amongst the league's best snipers when they're putting up big totals. Just saying.
- AlexF


I've heard so many people over the past couple of days suggest Moulson in underrated, not the other way around. Also, none of them were Garth.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:04 PM ET
I'm fine with Richardson at the 4LC spot to be honest. Assuming that a top 6 skilled player was acquired, I believe Richardson would get bumped down to that spot permanently when everyone is healthy. I'd like to see more of Welsh as well, he looked decent last night.

Tallon would laugh hanging up the phone at that offer IMO.

- Nucker101


Richardson has been third line center.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:05 PM ET
Aside from a top 6 playmaker, I think a 4th liner center who is elite in the circle is a pressing need. Tanev, Booth and Schroader for Flieschman and Goc? Haven't checked but I believe Marcel G is a good face off man
- Bieksa#3


Might want to offer a list of players who aren't currently on crutches as a starting point.

If you want those 2 you're trading one of our top 4 D without question.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:08 PM ET
Might want to offer a list of players who aren't currently on crutches as a starting point.

If you want those 2 you're not one of our top 4 D without question.

- AlexF

Crutches are included in the deal
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:09 PM ET
Crutches are included in the deal
- VANTEL


Deal!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:10 PM ET
Richardson has been third line center.
- VANTEL



Yeah, but I said assuming that a top 6 skilled player were to be acquired, I think you'd see Richardson on the third line. He isn't playing ahead of Henrik, Daniel, Kesler, Hansen, Higgins, New Top 6, Santorelli, Burrows and one of Booth/Kassian(9 forwards in total).
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:12 PM ET
Looks like the return of Lecavalier woke the Flyers up from their slumber. Anyone in Fantasy who traded for the Flyers' top guys for cheap, be prepared to start singing.

Gotta say I do like Lecavalier and think he would have been worth kicking the tires on over the summer to slot in as our 2C. Not sure how many good years he has left, but he's good now.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:12 PM ET
Richardson has been third line center.
- VANTEL


Yup.

Cept for the few games Schroeder was healthy.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 29 @ 8:13 PM ET
Yup.

Cept for the few games Schroeder was healthy.

- Fosco

Honestly, I think he's been a great fit there. Can he keep it up?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:15 PM ET
I just think we need more face off wins.
- Bieksa#3



We're 11th in the league, I don't see it as a pressing need.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:16 PM ET
Interesting news on the Vanek deal.

Isles can switch the 1st to 2015 if the want (probably won't considering each draft class), and Buffalo retained some of Vanek's salary.
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