So with Giordano out for CGY for 6-8, what are the chances they'd be in the market for a Mr. JML to help keep them afloat during a very good start for the Flames?
- AngryWhiteMale

23.9% - 100%

Pylon Phaneuf is not worth anything near that ... the Laffs should sign him ....
- toneez

yeah we will dont worry.

go back to the clown car in the habs room, thanks for coming out bud.

Pylon Phaneuf is not worth anything near that ... the Laffs should sign him ....
- toneez

Oh god....

What do the Corsi numbers say?
- poohcrumbs

59 points with 3rd liners
vs
47 points with 1st liners

So with Giordano out for CGY for 6-8, what are the chances they'd be in the market for a Mr. JML to help keep them afloat during a very good start for the Flames?
- AngryWhiteMale

Id say if he plays Wed night, chances are high that happens, showcase before they eat his salary and move him

Sure and every teams system is different. I just dont see how corsi numbers can reflect a players worth, which is how many seem to use these stats. To me the advanced stats seem to contribute to the overall team, more so than individual players.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Agreed...and they shouldnt be used to solely evaluate a players worth, however can be supportive data to say that player X isnt great defensively as shown over the course of 3-4-5 seasons or what have you.

I loved watching Grabo but it kind of defeats the purpose of having great scoring wingers when your centre won't get rid of the puck.
- Canada Cup

cept he has 128 career assists and only 98 goals

yup, sounds like a puck hog

that was a stupidly overblown assessment of him

So with Giordano out for CGY for 6-8, what are the chances they'd be in the market for a Mr. JML to help keep them afloat during a very good start for the Flames?
- AngryWhiteMale

Hopefully 100%

cept he has 128 career assists and only 98 goals

yup, sounds like a puck hog

that was a stupidly overblown assessment of him
- Dozzer

Most are. Assessments that is.

59 points with 3rd liners
vs
47 points with 1st liners
- big_dion

Good thing I dont Corsi, - I Fenwick

Good thing I dont Corsi, - I Fenwick
- poohcrumbs

Is that like doing the macarena?

cept he has 128 career assists and only 98 goals

yup, sounds like a puck hog

that was a stupidly overblown assessment of him
- Dozzer

People say things without looking at stats first..

So with Giordano out for CGY for 6-8, what are the chances they'd be in the market for a Mr. JML to help keep them afloat during a very good start for the Flames?
- AngryWhiteMale

Decent, actually....but know that the Flames would be in a position of strength as they do not need a guy like Liles, but could use him.

Good thing I dont Corsi, - I Fenwick
- poohcrumbs

i have a fenwick fishing rod

Id say if he plays Wed night, chances are high that happens, showcase before they eat his salary and move him
- poohcrumbs

CGY has more than enough cap space that we really shouldn't have to eat too much, if any of his salary.

They are in a position where they're doing well enough that they can't afford to lose ground. They should be smart and just take him off our hands.

It still doesn't change the fact Grabovski was a head case who fought with his own team during practice and was run out of two organizations. Skill isn't everything.
I understand the paying a mediocre centre like a good one argument but Grabovski was still a mediocre centre....we were just paying him more.
- MrBen

Grabo has the potential to be a 60P centre.. bozak.. not so much

him and carlyle didnt get along so he's gone.. its as simple as that

i have a fenwick fishing rod
- big_dion

Sweeeeeeeeeet!

Decent, actually....but know that the Flames would be in a position of strength as they do not need a guy like Liles, but could use him.
- Colin Dambrauskas

flames realistically should just stay the course.

play all their young guys and AHL guys - no need to bring anyone in.

end up with a quality pick and continue the rebuild.

thats my honest opinion, and id love them to take liles but it really would be foolish unless they can get a decent prospect back as well that would be worth grooming into a slot for them in the future.

Grabo has the potential to be a 60P centre.. bozak.. not so much

him and carlyle didnt get along so he's gone.. its as simple as that
- Dozzer

as a sum up: that is exactly it.

Most are. Assessments that is.
- Bigzby

i wasnt pointing at the poster specifically

in general.. that was a chirp about him, puck hog.. and never held water

its about as accurate as calling kessel a puck hog

as a sum up: that is exactly it.
- big_dion

yeah, nonis knew grabo had value but had to make room to sign the 65th best faceoff man in the league this year

Pylon Phaneuf is not worth anything near that ... the Laffs should sign him ....
- toneez

Wow. How original.

You should write this more often.

Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun1m
Another wrinkle in the Vanek deal: if the 1st round pick NYI sent Buff ends up top 10 in June, Isles have option to defer the pick to 2015

i wasnt pointing at the poster specifically

in general.. that was a chirp about him, puck hog.. and never held water

its about as accurate as calling kessel a puck hog
- Dozzer

Actually Grabo made many a failed attempts to gain the zone on his own, and simply didn't think of what he wanted to do with the puck so he'd either pinch it along the boards or lose it just inside the blueline.

flames realistically should just stay the course.

play all their young guys and AHL guys - no need to bring anyone in.

end up with a quality pick and continue the rebuild.

thats my honest opinion, and id love them to take liles but it really would be foolish unless they can get a decent prospect back as well that would be worth grooming into a slot for them in the future.
- big_dion

Stop giving Feaster smart ideas