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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
I don't think they do the deal even last year. Emery isn't the solution for them in net and Mez has been hurt for quite a while now.

If the Flyers ask about Hemsky, the Oilers will probably ask for Coburn or Simmonds.

- PhillySportsGuy

I thought at one point they just wanted to get rid of him for whatever but no one wanted him ?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
Couts vs Getzlaf should be a great match up to watch,
I am really looking forward to the game tonight.

- Marc D


Stopping that top line is going to be key. I wouldn't be surprised if Berube moves Simmonds off the third line for some defensive zone shifts and puts Talbot there. Maybe move Simmer to top line for a little and Raffl to 4th line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
I wonder if anyone else noticed this in the Islanders game. But I saw the Schenn/Streit pairing out there quite a bit against the Taveras line.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:42 AM ET
I wonder if anyone else noticed this in the Islanders game. But I saw the Schenn/Streit pairing out there quite a bit against the Taveras line.
- MJL

Luke and Streit had a very solid game.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
I thought at one point they just wanted to get rid of him for whatever but no one wanted him ?
- blizzzard


I don't think Edmonton ever wants to just get rid of a player. They always seem to want absurd amounts for them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
I thought at one point they just wanted to get rid of him for whatever but no one wanted him ?
- blizzzard


They wanted to move him but the price was too high for anyone. They weren't just looking to dump him.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
ROFL

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/229635021.html

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
I still can't believe Raffl is one the first line with Giroux. It's like when they played Mike Maneluk with Lindros. It makes zero sense.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don't think they do the deal even last year. Emery isn't the solution for them in net and Mez has been hurt for quite a while now.

If the Flyers ask about Hemsky, the Oilers will probably ask for Coburn or Simmonds.

- PhillySportsGuy


Hemsky is a UFA with quite a hefty contract for his production. Unless something else is coming back, no way you give up Coburn or Simmonds.

I would think about Hemsky and Nurse for Coburn and a pick though.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:59 AM ET
Hemsky is a UFA with quite a hefty contract for his production. Unless something else is coming back, no way you give up Coburn or Simmonds.

I would think about Hemsky and Nurse for Coburn and a pick though.

- youarewrong


I'm not saying I would do the deal. I'm letting you know what they'd want back for Hemsky.

You're trade proposals are very one-sided. Nurse is a top prospect with loads of potential. Why would they trade him and a top 6 forward for Coburn and a pick?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
Hemsky is a UFA with quite a hefty contract for his production. Unless something else is coming back, no way you give up Coburn or Simmonds.

I would think about Hemsky and Nurse for Coburn and a pick though.

- youarewrong



Trade proposals should be at least close to being realistic. And both sides would have to agree.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
I still can't believe Raffl is one the first line with Giroux. It's like when they played Mike Maneluk with Lindros. It makes zero sense.
- mayorofangrytown

Still, the upside is the other line of Hartnell with Jake and Schenn looked dynamite.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
I still can't believe Raffl is one the first line with Giroux. It's like when they played Mike Maneluk with Lindros. It makes zero sense.
- mayorofangrytown


To me its about finding the right combination, not just putting the best 3 players on the top line, with a cherry on top.

I have a feeling Berube likes how the team is starting to play, and feels that if he puts Hartnell or Voracek back with Giroux, then they might go back to those low percentage passes.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
I still can't believe Raffl is one the first line with Giroux. It's like when they played Mike Maneluk with Lindros. It makes zero sense.
- mayorofangrytown


Less than zero sense. Using a player who may not even be an NHL caliber guy on the top line is beyond dumb.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
Still, the upside is the other line of Hartnell with Jake and Schenn looked dynamite.
- Marc D


Vinny also had a hat trick, so there's that too.

I'm willing to sacrifice a little from the top line in order to make the forwards more balanced. I've always felt the key success in the current NHL is line balance.

I expect Hartnell to be on the 1st line once he gets going.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
Vinny also had a hat trick, so there's that too.

I'm willing to sacrifice a little from the top line in order to make the forwards more balanced. I've always felt the key success in the current NHL is line balance.

I expect Hartnell to be on the 1st line once he gets going.

- PhillySportsGuy

Hartnell will likely move there.

To me the big question is where will Voraccek end up?

I think splitting him and Giroux gives them two dangerous scoring lines (OK not so much this season, but you know what I mean).

Also G and Jake are their best two possession forwards that can carry the puck and drive the play towards offense. Splitting them makes a ton of sense, both are better set up guys then pure finishers. If Vinnie can stick at wing the lines will work better. VL might be the shooter Giroux needs on his wing.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
Less than zero sense. Using a player who may not even be an NHL caliber guy on the top line is beyond dumb.
- PLindbergh31


Hertl
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hartnell will likely move there.

To me the big question is where will Voraccek end up?

I think splitting him and Giroux gives them two dangerous scoring lines (OK not so much this season, but you know what I mean).

Also G and Jake are their best two possession forwards that can carry the puck and drive the play towards offense. Splitting them makes a ton of sense, both are better set up guys then pure finishers. If Vinnie can stick at wing the lines will work better. VL might be the shooter Giroux needs on his wing.

- Marc D


I made this exact same statement at the beginning of the year. I've wanted Vinny on G's wing and Voracek on the 2nd line with Schenn. Last season Schenn and Voracek showed good chemistry early on. It was Schenn's best stretch as a pro IMO.

I feel G and Vorcaek are very similar players. They both enjoy passing and setting up more than shooting. How many times have we seen Voracek and Giroux over pass to each other? Vinny and Schenn will always be ready, willing and able shooters for those guys.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Hartnell will likely move there.

To me the big question is where will Voraccek end up?

I think splitting him and Giroux gives them two dangerous scoring lines (OK not so much this season, but you know what I mean).

Also G and Jake are their best two possession forwards that can carry the puck and drive the play towards offense. Splitting them makes a ton of sense, both are better set up guys then pure finishers. If Vinnie can stick at wing the lines will work better. VL might be the shooter Giroux needs on his wing.

- Marc D


You like to have balance for sure. But I would like Giroux to have two capable finishers on his wing. Lecavalier certainly fits the bill.

Don't forget, the way the 4th line is currently constructed you are getting very little in the way of ice time, let alone offense.

The 4th line should be Talbot/Hall/Raffl or McGinn.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Less than zero sense. Using a player who may not even be an NHL caliber guy on the top line is beyond dumb.
- PLindbergh31


I think Raffl has shown to be an NHL caliber player. Even if he doesn't score, he's at least a decent complimentary player who plays good two-way hockey. The NHL is littered with third line players like that.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
Hertl
- youarewrong



Hertl was one of the highest ranked prospects in the world before this season... you need to put the pipe down.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
You like to have balance for sure. But I would like Giroux to have two capable finishers on his wing. Lecavalier certainly fits the bill.

Don't forget, the way the 4th line is currently constructed you are getting very little in the way of ice time, let alone offense.

The 4th line should be Talbot/Hall/Raffl or McGinn.

- PLindbergh31

this would be my preference

McGinn could play with G and Vinnie,

or have G center Harts and Vinnie and McGinn plays with Jake and Schenn
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
I made this exact same statement at the beginning of the year. I've wanted Vinny on G's wing and Voracek on the 2nd line with Schenn. Last season Schenn and Voracek showed good chemistry early on. It was Schenn's best stretch as a pro IMO.

I feel G and Vorcaek are very similar players. They both enjoy passing and setting up more than shooting. How many times have we seen Voracek and Giroux over pass to each other? Vinny and Schenn will always be ready, willing and able shooters for those guys.

- PhillySportsGuy

I see it the same as you, and I think Berube has a pretty good feel for his players and their roles, so we'll see.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
You like to have balance for sure. But I would like Giroux to have two capable finishers on his wing. Lecavalier certainly fits the bill.

Don't forget, the way the 4th line is currently constructed you are getting very little in the way of ice time, let alone offense.

The 4th line should be Talbot/Hall/Raffl or McGinn.

- PLindbergh31


I think Hartnell would be a fine addition to the top line when he's playing well.

I would like another 4th line player who could contribute more ice time. Hall is very slow while Rosehill and Rinaldo aren't always the most reliable.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
Hertl was one of the highest ranked prospects in the world before this season... you need to put the pipe down.
- Tomahawk

he was ranked higher then Jiří Dopita?

unpossible
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