Yeah, ok, Vanek isn't currently surrounded by an all-star cast...but he's played with decent players before and his production doesn't improve or suffer that dramatically...and it's not that big of an upgrade production wise from Moulson.

I get that Vanek is the better player...but to me, they paid a lot to address and issue that isn't really a problem at this point.
- number_23

5 on 5 scoring is what they wanted to improve. And I agree - they paid way too much.

This...

instead of Moulson's 30 goals 30 assists, they'll get Vanek's 30 goals and 35 assists?

so 5 assists are worth a 1st and a 2nd?!?

Vanek is a year younger (tough to believe since he's been around much longer...) but still...
- number_23

Let's see what Vanek will do besides JT before comparing the two. He never had a center close to Tavares since his debut in the NHL. Also, we will see how good of a player Moulson is in Buffalo. (aka without Tavares).

Lots down this way - 1/3 Bruins, 1/3 Leafs, 1/3 Habs approx plus the odd Flyers, Pens and Flyers fan. We all talk like Hextal271 or w/e his name is eh Crmoarey?
- BingoLady

You should just root for your local team...I don't care that you don't have an NHL team. Please leave right away and go to QJMHLBuzz. Thank you.

Yeah, ok, Vanek isn't currently surrounded by an all-star cast...but he's played with decent players before and his production doesn't improve or suffer that dramatically...and it's not that big of an upgrade production wise from Moulson.

I get that Vanek is the better player...but to me, they paid a lot to address and issue that isn't really a problem at this point.
- number_23

This. They need a puck moving D and a quality back-up. Or hell, even a starting goalie.

You should just root for your local team...I don't care that you don't have an NHL team. Please leave right away and go to QJMHLBuzz. Thank you.
- number_23

QP's blog is good - stee is not there.

Let's see what Vanek will do besides JT before comparing the two. He never had a center close to Tavares since his debut in the NHL. Also, we will see how good of a player Moulson is in Buffalo. (aka without Tavares).
- Habsody

Oh, we know Vanek will at the very least maintain his production...probably improve it too...and Moulson will not...but that's not the point...

What have the Islanders gained? a few more goals and a few more assists? Is that incremental gain really worth what they paid?

The only counterpoint that makes sense is Howard's point about the 5-on-5 scoring...and no one is disputing Vanek >> Moulson... but still...steep price.

QP's blog is good - stee is not there.
- BingoLady

there you go...2 positives...

Oh, we know Vanek will at the very least maintain his production...probably improve it too...and Moulson will not...but that's not the point...

What have the Islanders gained? a few more goals and a few more assists? Is that incremental gain really worth what they paid?

The only counterpoint that makes sense is Howard's point about the 5-on-5 scoring...and no one is disputing Vanek >> Moulson... but still...steep price.
- number_23

Draft picks, which I think is what they really wanted.

Draft picks, which I think is what they really wanted.
- Rayven

Lost does not mean gained.

Draft picks, which I think is what they really wanted.
- Rayven

... what?

Lost does not mean gained.
- hscesq

He's a bit lost.

Our gain.

Lost does not mean gained.
- hscesq

He's a bit lost.

Our gain.
- WaterBoy

Lebust

Go Budaj

Murray on D

Bonjour Howard

Bonjour Howard
- Symba007

Ouain.

Are Nash and Callahan injured still?

Are Nash and Callahan injured still?
- Pecafan Fan

Ouain.

Ouain.
- hscesq

Sweet.

Er, I mean, that sucks!

Sweet.

Er, I mean, that sucks!
- Pecafan Fan

Habs have their own issues.

Dear FB users,

We already know Lou Reed is dead.

Habs have their own issues.
- hscesq

Midgetitist???

Draft picks, which I think is what they really wanted.
- Rayven

great point.

Dear FB users,

We already know Lou Reed is dead.
- WaterBoy

Dear FB users,

We already know Lou Reed is dead.
- WaterBoy

May he rest in peace.