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prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
Allrighty then...

...everyone else ready for the Brad Mills experience?

- ArlingtonRob


Meh, shouldn't be any worse than the Pisani experience....or Ryan Johnson experience...you get the idea.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
Allrighty then...

...everyone else ready for the Brad Mills experience?

- ArlingtonRob


Yes - I predict a goal, an assist, +2 for the nite.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
Hey Phil,
Excited to see Morin, never seen Mills play....you?

- reeder16


Yo Reeder....Morin ? Meh. Good scorer...but streaky.

Mills...super happy for him...he could...repeat could become a fixture. His work ethic is a real asset. Whether he's good enough to stick for any length of time ? Up to Scotty and co.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
Feel free.
- rtang415


So much easier to exaggerate what somebody says, label them, instead of examining the points of discussion. But by all means, follow the mental path of least resistance to save yourself from having to address the point people make, not the hyperbole you interject.

I was so wrong about Q last year in the playoffs, that he did what I said he should and they ended up winning. And like this year, as I have said for over a month, to the chagrin of the Q quaffers, Pirri will end up number 2 and Morin 3rd line next to Shaw and Bickell. Wow, tonight...Morin next to Shaw and Bickell.

Pirri will get his share of 2C tonight as well. That is no knock on Kruger.

But again, enjoy the 5 person echo chamber in here. The real cup is half empty crowd. The pump the brakes crowd. Wow how daring and risky that is.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
Meh, shouldn't be any worse than the Pisani experience....or Ryan Johnson experience...you get the idea.
- prd797

And Q is known to pull a rabbit out his hat,some would argue his ass though.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM ET
So...

...what gives with the Q "debate"?

It seems that regardless of who's behind the bench someone will have complaints.

As always, coaches get too much credit when team's play well, and too much criticism when they play poorly. Results are all that matter, and on that measure I'd say Q has been solid to outstanding.

Personally, I blame players first when things go wrong.
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM ET
I guess I should feel bad about being labeled a Q lover.....I guess having an appreciation for the guy who coached my favorite team to two Stanley Cups in 4 years after decades of bad is irrational.

I guess I'm suppose to respect the opinions of the lunatic tin foil hat crowd who posts things such...."winning in spite of him"....."barely outcoached Babcock(what does that mean?)".....and other posts written by the padded room crowd in between drool drops.

I guess I'm suppose to hate the man who coached a team with 2 1/2 lines, 3 dmen, and a rookie goal tender to a game 7 OT loss in the first round after half the roster from the Stanley Cup a year before was turned over, guys like Duncan Keith were physically exhausted from the year before because not only did they have a cup run but also the grind of an Olympic schedule as well.....I mean he had John Scott, Fernando Pisani, and Jack Skille on this team....we still should have won the cup!

I guess I'm suppose to want the man fired who lost in the first round of the 2011-2012 post season....even though they didn't have home ice....and had one of our best players lay motionless on the ice after a jarring hit. I mean....Andrew Brunette could have picked up the slack right!!!

Buy hey no way does he deserve credit for winning a second stanley cup with the same goal tender who pooped the bed a year before, got guys like Frolik to buy into being a pk killing role player....new when to limit the ice time of a struggling Nick Leddy in the play offs.....made the adjustments to the adjustments made by Detroit but baaaaaarely outcoached Mike Babcock to come back from a 3 win deficit.......learned how to beat a team that was clogging up the neutral zone in the Stanley Cup Finals and win it in six games......

But hey the guys a bum......anyone could win a Cup with this team.....I mean Vigneault did in Vancouver and he had great goaltending, a deep D, loaded on offense...Melrose did in LA when he had Gretzky, Robitaille, Coffey, Granato...etc.....I mean if Krecij wouldn't have gotten hurt the Bruins would have won the cup for sure!! Even though Bickel had a severely sprained knee, Hossa couldn't feel his leg, Handzus was a walking game of operation..... toews had a broken hand, Sharp was playing with a bad shoulder......excuses, excuses.......oh wait.....

- UnnamedSource


lol - this is love. Thanks for proving my point. Never said i hated Q. But I do see that you go a little over board with your love for Q and protect and defend at all costs. Ah, ignorance is bliss.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM ET
So...

...what gives with the Q "debate"?

It seems that regardless of who's behind the bench someone will have complaints.

As always, coaches get too much credit when team's play well, and too much criticism when they play poorly. Results are all that matter, and on that measure I'd say Q has been solid to outstanding.

Personally, I blame players first when things go wrong.

- ArlingtonRob


Like a lot of things to the Kotex Mafia on here, some raise issues questioning a coaches moves. Which, I know, is so crazy and never heard of in sports. So instead of just examining those on their merits and disagreeing, they attempt to isolate and label and discredit. Mostly on the basis of something nobody ever said.

Hope they add another idea or two to their 5 ideal ledger.

BTW Bob, I blame you when things don't go right.

Players decide games not coaches. Q is a great coach no doubt, but he has his style and like all coaches, does not always make the right moves. He is human. Hope I did not spoil it for anyone.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM ET
Who assisted on Q's cup winning goals? I missed that.

Comedy how everyone hails Q for Detroit series, when one would wonder if they had just decided to play their game from the outset, what it all would have looked like? Instead, Babcock jedi mind tricked Q into playing Bollig, sitting Stalberg and letting the opponent dictate the series. I mean, it took a team full of NHL scouts and front office people to see that Babcock played Kronwall 3 number 5 defensemen and a number 7. But lets worry about Jordan Tootoo, who never even dressed. But by all means, lets ignore the fact that Q changed his lineup, one that had not struggled the whole year practically, to adjust to a weaker foe. A much weaker foe.

That was just genius.

I guess we have to wait until after the season, when the hawks don't win a cup to criticize, or more like in my situation, question Q. This guy should run for office or cure cancer. Perhaps, he can take over for the most interesting man in the world, should he retire.

- TrueGrit


Comedy how one who has never seen Brandon Pirri play but likes to call the.....I think it's "chasing tail crowd" for having opinion about a player they actually seen play...multiple times.....I guess we have to wait a full NHL season of him losing board battles, getting knocked off the puck, not playing a two way game before we can criticize #37
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM ET
So much easier to exaggerate what somebody says, label them, instead of examining the points of discussion. But by all means, follow the mental path of least resistance to save yourself from having to address the point people make, not the hyperbole you interject.

I was so wrong about Q last year in the playoffs, that he did what I said he should and they ended up winning. And like this year, as I have said for over a month, to the chagrin of the Q quaffers, Pirri will end up number 2 and Morin 3rd line next to Shaw and Bickell. Wow, tonight...Morin next to Shaw and Bickell.

Pirri will get his share of 2C tonight as well. That is no knock on Kruger.

But again, enjoy the 5 person echo chamber in here. The real cup is half empty crowd. The pump the brakes crowd. Wow how daring and risky that is.

- TrueGrit


Love you like a brother TG. That comment was not directed at you. The man has 600 plus wins and a couple of Stanley Cups under his belt. He must be doing something right. I was calling those out who belittle him for no reason other than the team is not winning every game and it's all his fault.
PaulNewman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Romeoville, IL
Joined: 02.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM ET
Who assisted on Q's cup winning goals? I missed that.

Comedy how everyone hails Q for Detroit series, when one would wonder if they had just decided to play their game from the outset, what it all would have looked like? Instead, Babcock jedi mind tricked Q into playing Bollig, sitting Stalberg and letting the opponent dictate the series. I mean, it took a team full of NHL scouts and front office people to see that Babcock played Kronwall 3 number 5 defensemen and a number 7. But lets worry about Jordan Tootoo, who never even dressed. But by all means, lets ignore the fact that Q changed his lineup, one that had not struggled the whole year practically, to adjust to a weaker foe. A much weaker foe.

That was just genius.

I guess we have to wait until after the season, when the hawks don't win a cup to criticize, or more like in my situation, question Q. This guy should run for office or cure cancer. Perhaps, he can take over for the most interesting man in the world, should he retire.

- TrueGrit

Have to jump in on this. Does not matter what you think of Q. He has been a part of 2 cups in 4 years. Other then Phil Jackson who has brought this city multiple championships? Mike Ditka is still mostly loved in this town(shouldn't be) and he won one Super Bowl over 25 years ago. Should have won a few! Whatever Q is doing it is working. Until the Hawks don't make the playoffs and look bad when they do make it, you have to give the guy his due! I will back the new "Da Coach" to the wall!! He has earned it!!!
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM ET
Both of you are extreme debaters like Ted Cruz and Harry Reid: claiming the other said something he never said.

Enough already - it's boring.

- StLBravesFan



I would've been less insulted if you called me a jerk face
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM ET
Like a lot of things to the Kotex Mafia on here, some raise issues questioning a coaches moves. Which, I know, is so crazy and never heard of in sports. So instead of just examining those on their merits and disagreeing, they attempt to isolate and label and discredit. Mostly on the basis of something nobody ever said.

Hope they add another idea or two to their 5 ideal ledger.

BTW Bob, I blame you when things don't go right.

Players decide games not coaches. Q is a great coach no doubt, but he has his style and like all coaches, does not always make the right moves. He is human. Hope I did not spoil it for anyone.

- TrueGrit


You don't need to make offensive comments to make your point.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM ET
Love you like a brother TG. That comment was not directed at you. The man has 600 plus wins and a couple of Stanley Cups under his belt. He must be doing something right. I was calling those out who belittle him for no reason other than the team is not winning every game and it's all his fault.
- rtang415



Exactly....I've never objected to those that criticize him.....it's the tin foil hat crowd who have the......"winning in spite of thoughts".........the residential rectums as you call them
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:13 PM ET
Love you like a brother TG. That comment was not directed at you. The man has 600 plus wins and a couple of Stanley Cups under his belt. He must be doing something right. I was calling those out who belittle him for no reason other than the team is not winning every game and it's all his fault.
- rtang415


Totally agree...I did not mean to be personal either. Just see no problem in QUESTIONing a coaches moves is all. Now we supposedly can't. I am a fan and can be wrestless whatching this all play out. Should spend more time working on my spelling...
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
Like a lot of things to the Kotex Mafia on here, some raise issues questioning a coaches moves. Which, I know, is so crazy and never heard of in sports. So instead of just examining those on their merits and disagreeing, they attempt to isolate and label and discredit. Mostly on the basis of something nobody ever said.

Hope they add another idea or two to their 5 ideal ledger.

BTW Bob, I blame you when things don't go right.

Players decide games not coaches. Q is a great coach no doubt, but he has his style and like all coaches, does not always make the right moves. He is human. Hope I did not spoil it for anyone.

- TrueGrit



I don't think anyone is talking about those who criticize his in game moves.....or line juggling....it's the ones that discredit him for his accomplishments.....
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
You don't need to make offensive comments to make your point.
- StLBravesFan


You are probably right. I better watch it, there may be some made Kotex guys here...I might get whacked...

As Rambo said, they drew first blood.....
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM ET
Totally agree...I did not mean to be personal either. Just see no problem in QUESTIONing a coaches moves is all. Now we supposedly can't. I am a fan and can be wrestless whatching this all play out. Should spend more time working on my spelling...
- TrueGrit



NO
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM ET
Like a lot of things to the Kotex Mafia on here, some raise issues questioning a coaches moves. Which, I know, is so crazy and never heard of in sports. So instead of just examining those on their merits and disagreeing, they attempt to isolate and label and discredit. Mostly on the basis of something nobody ever said.

Hope they add another idea or two to their 5 ideal ledger.

BTW Bob, I blame you when things don't go right.

Players decide games not coaches. Q is a great coach no doubt, but he has his style and like all coaches, does not always make the right moves. He is human. Hope I did not spoil it for anyone.

- TrueGrit

Who decided the last game in ot? still the players but Q did leave Shaw and Kane on the ice against Stamkos and St. Louis. hhhmmmm, probably not the wisest decision. Shaw and Kane were on the ice for awhile, and Tampa Bay had the last change, Stamkos came on. oh well, Khabby still should have covered up that puck. it is a game and constructive critiscm. Not Q hate. well, who is in charge of the pk, we are now ranked 30th, yikes.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM ET
You are probably right. I better watch it, there may be some made Kotex guys here...I might get whacked...

As Rambo said, they drew first blood.....

- TrueGrit


Well, tell you what - as a husband, a father of two daughters, and a grandfather of a little girl, I find it offensive, and there is no need for it here (XOR anywhere else).
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM ET
I don't think anyone is talking about those who criticize his in game moves.....or line juggling....it's the ones that discredit him for his accomplishments.....
- UnnamedSource

what? that is insane
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:18 PM ET
I like the new look Minny uni's
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM ET
Like a lot of things to the Kotex Mafia on here, some raise issues questioning a coaches moves. Which, I know, is so crazy and never heard of in sports. So instead of just examining those on their merits and disagreeing, they attempt to isolate and label and discredit. Mostly on the basis of something nobody ever said.

Hope they add another idea or two to their 5 ideal ledger.

BTW Bob, I blame you when things don't go right.

Players decide games not coaches. Q is a great coach no doubt, but he has his style and like all coaches, does not always make the right moves. He is human. Hope I did not spoil it for anyone.

- TrueGrit


Nice...
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM ET
Brad Mills skating beautifully out there...he's the kind of player Beach should have become.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM ET
I don't think anyone is talking about those who criticize his in game moves.....or line juggling....it's the ones that discredit him for his accomplishments.....
- UnnamedSource


At the end of the day, it is what it is .. They won he was the coach. As I stated long ago in this exchange the answer is somewhere in the middle. And that portion of it, I don't care about, my focus is on what we will do next.

BTW Mills can move.
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