Bruins give up two goals in twenty two seconds to lose to the Devils.
- prd797

Last year, it was 17 seconds, they have improved greatly.

Morin looked great tonight. Looked like he belonged. Had jump, was aggressive.

Actaully...Kane is now a

-9

By far the worst on the team.

Let the trade rumors begin!

Crawford was a little shaky tonight, but not the reason they lost. Defensive breakdowns, turnovers and terrible power play. I said it earlier, but if their PK is going to be in the bottom third of the league as it sits now, then they are going to start paying the price for that abysmal PP. How many times does a guy hold the puck, hold the puck and then take a bad angle shot because nobody is moving and there is nowhere else to go with the puck. I simply cannot understand how other teams with far less talent are able to enter the zone, set up and move the puck around, while we can't do any of the three. I guess I should just stop complaining about it. It hasn't changed in 4 years and I doubt it will be changing any time soon.

Actaully...Kane is now a

-9

By far the worst on the team.

Let the trade rumors begin!
- ArlingtonRob

This John Scott guy has been in the headlines a lot, he must be a goalscorer or something like that. Trade that bum Kane for this Scott fella!

Morin looked great tonight. Looked like he belonged. Had jump, was aggressive.
- TrueGrit

It's hard to judge any one after tonight.

All I know is the Hawks have much work to do. At best an average team at the moment.

So - this team is now 6 wins 5 losses - basically a .500 team - with a favorable schedule so far: except for two against St. Louis, they haven't played a top team, 7 of 11 at home.

Thing is, if you look at goals scored, it shows 34 in 11 games - 3 per game - should be ok, but certainly doesn't seem like they're scoring well.

My glass is certainly half empty.

So - this team is now 6 wins 5 losses - basically a .500 team - with a favorable schedule so far: except for two against St. Louis, they haven't played a top team, 7 of 11 at home.

Thing is, if you look at goals scored, it shows 34 in 11 games - 3 per game - should be ok, but certainly doesn't seem like they're scoring well.

My glass is certainly half empty.
- StLBravesFan

Where's Glen?!?! Negativity! Bad fan...bad fan!

I happen to agree...

Crawford was a little shaky tonight, but not the reason they lost. Defensive breakdowns, turnovers and terrible power play. I said it earlier, but if their PK is going to be in the bottom third of the league as it sits now, then they are going to start paying the price for that abysmal PP. How many times does a guy hold the puck, hold the puck and then take a bad angle shot because nobody is moving and there is nowhere else to go with the puck. I simply cannot understand how other teams with far less talent are able to enter the zone, set up and move the puck around, while we can't do any of the three. I guess I should just stop complaining about it. It hasn't changed in 4 years and I doubt it will be changing any time soon.
- RetiredGoalie

What is it now, 10 GA on the PK?

I'm guessing (but I don't think I'm far off) that five of those 10 are directly off of FO losses in their win zone.

Other team sets up and scores with one shot within 5 seconds.

Crawford was a little shaky tonight, but not the reason they lost. Defensive breakdowns, turnovers and terrible power play. I said it earlier, but if their PK is going to be in the bottom third of the league as it sits now, then they are going to start paying the price for that abysmal PP. How many times does a guy hold the puck, hold the puck and then take a bad angle shot because nobody is moving and there is nowhere else to go with the puck. I simply cannot understand how other teams with far less talent are able to enter the zone, set up and move the puck around, while we can't do any of the three. I guess I should just stop complaining about it. It hasn't changed in 4 years and I doubt it will be changing any time soon.
- RetiredGoalie

Bit of a cliche to blame the other things. Because they happen. A lot. Goalies are supposed to bail you out of trouble and make most of the incredible saves. If minny can say this was a goalie win, and it was, it's a goalie loss for us. Not bailing on craw but he didn't have it tonight.

So - this team is now 6 wins 5 losses - basically a .500 team - with a favorable schedule so far: except for two against St. Louis, they haven't played a top team, 7 of 11 at home.

Thing is, if you look at goals scored, it shows 34 in 11 games - 3 per game - should be ok, but certainly doesn't seem like they're scoring well.

My glass is certainly half empty.
- StLBravesFan

What concerns me is that third defensive pairing is becoming an issue. Leddy continues to make silly mistakes with needless turnovers and Rosival has been just plain bad. That fourth goal of the Leddy turnover was just brutal. Faceoffs, especially in our own zone on the PK continues to be an issue. Tonight had to be about the fifth or sixth PP goal against the Hawks that came literally seconds after a draw was lost by Kruger. I've already touched on the PP. I've simply just given up on that area of their game. At this point, I expect absolutely nothing from the PP and just hope they don't give up a shorty. If they actually do score - when the game is still in doubt and not when it's already been decided, I'll consider it a rare bonus.

I figure eventually competitiveness and pride will wake this bunch up.

Cup hangover may be a tired excuse, but in this case it's real. Largely the same group, but they're not emotionally invested as of yet.

Where's Glen?!?! Negativity! Bad fan...bad fan!

I happen to agree...
- ArlingtonRob

Looking forward to the Circus Trip - maybe it will bring them together, like the early Ice Capades trip did last year.

Bit of a cliche to blame the other things. Because they happen. A lot. Goalies are supposed to bail you out of trouble and make most of the incredible saves. If minny can say this was a goalie win, and it was, it's a goalie loss for us. Not bailing on craw but he didn't have it tonight.
- busmaster

I'll give you the fact that turnovers and breakdowns happen. But that PP is simply God awful. When you can't even get the puck in the zone until about a minute forty into the PP, you've got issues. They were 1 for 8 on the PP and the one goal didn't happen until after the game was basically decided. I suppose if you want to call it a cliche to complain about it because it's been lousy for 4 years, you are certainly entitled to do so. As for Crawford, I didn't absolve him. He was very shaky. I just think if the Hawks score on 1 or 2 of those early PP's and get a lead on the Wild, it MIGHT have been a different game. The effort, especially early on, did not appear to be there tonight.

Bit of a cliche to blame the other things. Because they happen. A lot. Goalies are supposed to bail you out of trouble and make most of the incredible saves. If minny can say this was a goalie win, and it was, it's a goalie loss for us. Not bailing on craw but he didn't have it tonight.
- busmaster

Seems every game the Hawks are thwarted by great goalie play.

I don't buy it.

Looking forward to the Circus Trip - maybe it will bring them together, like the early Ice Capades trip did last year.
- StLBravesFan

I can see your point, but I'm NOT looking forward to it.

Could be a disaster.

I probably shouldn't be commenting at this time...feeling especially negative at the moment.

Seems every game the Hawks are thwarted by great goalie play.

I don't buy it.
- ArlingtonRob

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Thank you, love the in depth analysis. The team that gives up most goals loses, he must be better??

I'll give you the fact that turnovers and breakdowns happen. But that PP is simply God awful. When you can't even get the puck in the zone until about a minute forty into the PP, you've got issues. They were 1 for 8 on the PP and the one goal didn't happen until after the game was basically decided. I suppose if you want to call it a cliche to complain about it because it's been lousy for 4 years, you are certainly entitled to do so. As for Crawford, I didn't absolve him. He was very shaky. I just think if the Hawks score on 1 or 2 of those early PP's and get a lead on the Wild, it MIGHT have been a different game. The effort, especially early on, did not appear to be there tonight.
- RetiredGoalie

Agreed. And it's totally inexplicable with this sort of top end talent. It is almost as if, theres a couple not too bright or imaginative bench coaches feeding stagnant and lame thoughts into their heads. Curious...

Bit of a cliche to blame the other things. Because they happen. A lot. Goalies are supposed to bail you out of trouble and make most of the incredible saves. If minny can say this was a goalie win, and it was, it's a goalie loss for us. Not bailing on craw but he didn't have it tonight.
- busmaster

This.

Not sure the Hawks had more than an average number of defensive breakdowns tonite - or last nite - if my figuring us correct, Wild only had 37 shots toward the net tonite (SOG + missed + Chicago blocks) - that's not a lot (Hawks had 63 - Wild blocked 19, 36 got thru to the net). Seems to me you should do better than 5 GA giving up only 37 attempts.

And you should do better than 3 goals scored on 63 attempts: slap shots into pads, slap shot wild off the net - am I missing something?

What concerns me is that third defensive pairing is becoming an issue. Leddy continues to make silly mistakes with needless turnovers and Rosival has been just plain bad. That fourth goal of the Leddy turnover was just brutal. Faceoffs, especially in our own zone on the PK continues to be an issue. Tonight had to be about the fifth or sixth PP goal against the Hawks that came literally seconds after a draw was lost by Kruger. I've already touched on the PP. I've simply just given up on that area of their game. At this point, I expect absolutely nothing from the PP and just hope they don't give up a shorty. If they actually do score - when the game is still in doubt and not when it's already been decided, I'll consider it a rare bonus.
- RetiredGoalie

And Toews - he hasn't been very good in the own-zone either.

Seems every game the Hawks are thwarted by great goalie play.

I don't buy it.
- ArlingtonRob

That's a lot of thwarting for a team with two regulation losses...

I've noticed that fifteen years ago a .910 shooting % was good for a goalie, but it seems we see upwards of .920 quite a bit these days. The hawks are not alone in their futility.

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Thank you, love the in depth analysis. The team that gives up most goals loses, he must be better??
- TrueGrit

I'm not offering "deep analysis", just complaining about the repeated glory placed on opposing tenders.

I'm not buying it...the Hawks are struggling offensively, and now the D sucks.

If you're lookin' for "deep analysis" log on to TSN...the buzz is for fans to vent.

And after tonight the venting should have a bit more hostility.

Agreed. And it's totally inexplicable with this sort of top end talent. It is almost as if, theres a couple not too bright or imaginative bench coaches feeding stagnant and lame thoughts into their heads. Curious...
- busmaster

What irks me about the coaches is that we never see anything new. It's always Keith on one point, Sharp on the other point. They continually look for the backdoor play with Towes or Kane down low. It basically looks like we are scrambling around more on our own PP then the team that is trying to kill it. I just don't understand the unwillingness to try different combinations on the PP. Honestly, how much worse can it be? Your best players aren't generating anything, so what do you have to lose by letting some other guys get some PP time.

I'll give you the fact that turnovers and breakdowns happen. But that PP is simply God awful. When you can't even get the puck in the zone until about a minute forty into the PP, you've got issues. The were 1 for 8 on the PP and the one goal didn't happen until after the game was basically decided. I suppose if you want to call it a cliche to complain about it because it's been lousy for 4 years, you are certainly entitled to do so. As for Crawford, I didn't not absolve him. He was very shaky. I just think if the Hawks score on 1 or 2 of those early PP's and get a lead on the Wild, it MIGHT have been a different game. The effort, especially early on, did not appear to be there tonight.
- RetiredGoalie

Hawks pp has been conundrum for the last few years after being a huge factor in the 2010 cup playoffs. I am sure the zen master will fix it. Ah, the pk - back to 2011-2 form, i feared this could happen. But we have plenty time to fix.

lol - if the hawks got the early lead - yes it would have been a different game, but then there is always the 3rd period.

Phil - didn't you like my "On the Waterfront" reference?