muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY Joined: 02.10.2007
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Yakupov is an unproven talent ... why would any team give the moon to the Oilers for him?
Gally was the true #1 overall in 2012 and proves it with MTL. We don't need him and I would be very surpise to see him in MTL in a trade like this. Next year we have McCaron that will be a lot better and bigger ... so I don't understand why would MTL want this kid that can't play an offensive style game with an offensive minded team ...
I would'nt give a 1st rouder for him let alone, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Gallagher or Fucale for this wash-out. - Hemeros
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muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY Joined: 02.10.2007
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played senior hockey, wasn't even the leading scorer, got some U of Manitoba Bison womens hockey player knocked up (which ended her scholarship being preggers), really came back to the hometown area by storm. - DDM-Coga
probably desperately wants it back. I'd feel bad for him if it didnt sound like he'd just sell it again anyway... |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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probably desperately wants it back. I'd feel bad for him if it didnt sound like he'd just sell it again anyway... - muffin_man
The thing is hanging on my wall, its awesome bc its a jacket made by Tackla, things just too good to let go |
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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BTW, I don't care about the points in a season for a rookie. Look at what Stefan or Daigle did in their first couple of years.
Guess who got 20 goals and 51 points in his rookie season? |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Therrien made Galchenyuk play limited time on the 3rd line the entire year since he knew that it would be a big learning curve. He didn't play with RNH, Gagner or BĂ©langer all year long but only with Eller when Eller started to get his game near the end of the season - koarik91
yakupov almost never played with rnh. he did play with gags abit, but don't even bother mentioning belanger. EB's terrible and doesn't help your point whatsoever. certainly not better than eller anyway, and the numbers back this up.
and he also played on the 3rd line for lengthy periods. doesn't matter though. the burden of proof is on your definitive statements as I didn't make any.
once again, you're entitled to your opinion, but at this point its nothing but conjecture and laughably offbase.
just give it some time. galchenyuk has absolutely NOT proven he's the unequivocal better choice thus far in there careers. but maybe someday you can make this claim and it wont sound silly. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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- muffin_man
agreed. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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BTW, I don't care about the points in a season for a rookie. Look at what Stefan or Daigle did in their first couple of years.
Guess who got 20 goals and 51 points in his rookie season? - koarik91
so now stats don't matter? but it did when gallys less toi helped your point of course.
and what does daigle have to do with anything??
you aint proving anything with your repeated posts man.... |
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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yakupov almost never played with rnh. he did play with gags abit, but don't even bother mentioning belanger. he's terrible and doesn't help your point whatsoever.
and he also played on the 3rd line for lengthy periods. doesn't matter though. the burden of proof is on your definitive statements as I didn't make any.
once again, you're entitled to your opinion, but at this point its nothing but conjecture and laughably offbase.
just give it some time. galchenyuk has absolutely NOT proven he's the unequivocal better choice thus far in there careers - hugefemale dog77
I'm not the one trying to say that Gally is better or will be better than Yakupov. Both are extremely different. It's like a couple of years ago when people were trying to compare Hossa and Kovalchuk. Both have their own skillset. I'm just trying to make you understand that we can argue all that we want over Yakupov But the fact that he was choosen #1 Overall doesn't make him extra special. The last several drafts were not conclusive to decide who was truly the #1 pick in comparison for Crosby or maybe McDavid in 2 years
Anyway, I don't even know why we are still debating this. The only logical thing here is that Montreal won't give anything special to trade for Yak and EDM as no interest in any other pieces right now in our team.
So in conclusion, Richard Cloutier > Eklund by far |
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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so now stats don't matter? but it did when gallys less toi helped your point of course.
and what does daigle have to do with anything??
you aint proving anything with your repeated posts man.... - hugefemale dog77
I wasn't the one arguing with you before lol! |
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So 58 games and 33 points into his NHL career, Yakupov is already a bust? Cool. - laughs2907
Read the argue |
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Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON Joined: 06.14.2009
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It would actually make sense having Gallagher coming over to his home town. But with the way he and the Habs are playing would they risk moving him at this point?
Yakupov for Gallagher, Tinordi and a draft pick - OilerFanFromBC
....wait,what?... ...*rubs eyes looks again.... .... .... .... |
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I'm not the one trying to say that Gally is better or will be better than Yakupov. Both are extremely different. It's like a couple of years ago when people were trying to compare Hossa and Kovalchuk. Both have their own skillset. I'm just trying to make you understand that we can argue all that we want over Yakupov But the fact that he was choosen #1 Overall doesn't make him extra special. The last several drafts were not conclusive to decide who was truly the #1 pick in comparison for Crosby or maybe McDavid in 2 years
Anyway, I don't even know why we are still debating this. The only logical thing here is that Montreal won't give anything special to trade for Yak and EDM as no interest in any other pieces right now in our team.
So in conclusion, Richard Cloutier > Eklund by far - koarik91
First think, Habs and Oilers will not be trading partners. If you do trade Yak, it will be to fill a need, not another star player. It will be for a excellent role player and a D. You need depth(good depth) not another star. You have enough stars or potential stars. Oh, you need a goalie, or maybe a coach like Patrick Roy! |
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Yak is almost a done deal in a package to Buffalo. Edmonton will be getting Enroth, Mcnabb, and Erhoff. |
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newmy
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 06.15.2012
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Tinordi, Gallagher, Furcale and a 1st - Bieksa#3
Not a chance, give up that much for an unproven player?? Yak hasn't done anything yet to warrant a robbery in return. Oiler fans would tell you he's the next coming but when you watch him play, he plays only when he wants to - end of story.
Could be great, possibly but he sure the hell isn't right now & to give up what you suggested isn't going to happen. |
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Zinchukk21
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton , AB Joined: 10.27.2013
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Tinordi, Gallagher, Furcale and a 1st - Bieksa#3
That's just what edmonton needs..... Another small skilled forward. Figure it out people yaks isn't going anywhere. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Not a chance, give up that much for an unproven player?? Yak hasn't done anything yet to warrant a robbery in return. Oiler fans would tell you he's the next coming but when you watch him play, he plays only when he wants to - end of story.
Could be great, possibly but he sure the hell isn't right now & to give up what you suggested isn't going to happen. - newmy
\which ones??
and who could possibly argue a first overall only 60 games into his career, that led rookies in goals and points has no value???
you been skipping your meds again?? how's your buddy dreger doing??
got any good insider tidbits for us normal people?? |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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newmy--
"oiler suck oiler suck!!" " you guys need to move one of the kids if you ever wanna get better. oilers suck!!""!!!!
oiler fan- " you're a total moron, but we've struggled again early. maybe we need to move forward and move one of the kids"
newmy-- " oilers suck, oiler suck!!. you wont get anyone of value for your unproven kids. you guys are such homers!! oilers suck"!!!!
the guy needs to go back to his padded room for awhile. |
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Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers |
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Location: FL Joined: 12.30.2011
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\which ones??
and who could possibly argue a first overall only 60 games into his career, that led rookies in goals and points has no value???
you been skipping your meds again?? how's your buddy dreger doing??
got any good insider tidbits for us normal people?? - hugefemale dog77
Just saying he didn't lead in points he tied. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Just saying he didn't lead in points he tied. - Crazycaboose
you could say both. 'he was tied for the lead'
or
"he led rookies in goals and points along with..."
some clever wording. |
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muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY Joined: 02.10.2007
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That's just what edmonton needs..... Another small skilled forward. Figure it out people yaks isn't going anywhere. - Zinchukk21
while small in stature, Gallagher is very different from the rest of your small forwards. Think Marchand, not Eberle. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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while small in stature, Gallagher is very different from the rest of your small forwards. Think Marchand, not Eberle. - muffin_man
not soft, but neither is yakupov or hall.
and certainly a pest and a yapper, all with talent. but not the physical force to create space that we're so desperate for is I think what he meant.
side note; I got banned in the habs thread last year for comparing Gallagher to marchand |
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muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY Joined: 02.10.2007
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not soft, but neither is yakupov or hall.
and certainly a pest and a yapper, all with talent. but not the physical force to create space that we're so desperate for is I think what he meant.
side note; I got banned in the habs thread last year for comparing Gallagher to marchand - hugefemale dog77
he goes to all the dirty areas, hed be an awesome addition to anyone's top 6 until injuries kill him |
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MrData
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 06.21.2011
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I don't see how this could work. We don't have the immediate defensive help that the Oilers need (well, none that's expendable anyway).
I could see something like a 1st, a top-4 D, and a good prospect for Yakupov. Markov's a UFA this summer, and I doubt they'd trade Gorges. Unless the Oilers want Diaz and/or Emelin, I think it's a no-go. |
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