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munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
I just don't see us putting much stock in a first as high value. we want help now.
but we also have enough gorges types.

take out gorges and the first and replace him tirnordi and bealieau. especially since your getting klefbom too

- hugefemale dog77



It would be tinordi or beaulieu. Not both. Do you know what you're getting in pleks and colberg? And tinordi and first. Done deal and thats the overpayment you're asking for. I cringe at how much would be going edms way.
koarik91
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hockey's capital, QC
Joined: 07.01.2006

Oct 26 @ 6:11 PM ET
No way Tinordi is involved.

Keep klefbom.

Plekanec, collberg and Beaulieu for yakupov and N. Schultz

- soad_live


I'm fine with that
ward30nhl
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: 52 West
Joined: 01.04.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:16 PM ET
Canes AHL affiliate has signed DiPietro to a PTO.
haymac
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.17.2011

Oct 26 @ 6:24 PM ET
If I'm the Oilers, I trade Yak for a big, talented, fast winger who can score and a 1-2 D.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:25 PM ET
It would be tinordi or beaulieu. Not both. Do you know what you're getting in pleks and colberg? And tinordi and first. Done deal and thats the overpayment you're asking for. I cringe at how much would be going edms way.
- munky123

end of the day its all about needs.
pleks would help, but hes not really the what's needed. hence why im asking for other players u may not be willing to let go, but are much bigger needs for us
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
If I'm the Oilers, I trade Yak for a big, talented, fast winger who can score and a 1-2 D.
- haymac

if u could get that...which im not so sure

I think u go for 1 of the 2 mentioned and then get a young player that fits the other bill, but hasn't quite proven himself yet and doesn't have that huge value.

yaks as a first overall and a leader in rookie goals/points of course has value. but he is still a question mark and im not sure we get 2 proven guys back. if u follow
koarik91
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hockey's capital, QC
Joined: 07.01.2006

Oct 26 @ 6:29 PM ET
If I'm the Oilers, I trade Yak for a big, talented, fast winger who can score and a 1-2 D.
- haymac



You won't be able to get both, at least 1 of the 2 will be a elite prospect in their position. Always try to out yourself in the other GM shoes. Why would I give more to receive the equal or less amount in the present and in the future?
Zarny
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.26.2013

Oct 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
Subban and Price are the only Mtl players that solve Oilers' needs. If they move Yak for anything else they failed.

Subban is due for a big pay day after last season. The Habs might be persuaded to change that asset. The Oilers are asking for a boatload for him.
Prusthemust
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.16.2013

Oct 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
Plekanec, collberg and Beaulieu for yakupov and N. Schultz
- soad_live


Why trade for Schultz since mid-november we will have 8-9 NHL defenseman
Zarny
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.26.2013

Oct 26 @ 6:48 PM ET
If I'm the Oilers, I trade Yak for a big, talented, fast winger who can score and a 1-2 D.
- haymac


You won't get both. They aren't trading Ovechkin.

You'd get one or the other, perhaps a depth roster player and/or prospect(s) and/or pick(s).
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
If I'm the Oilers, I trade Yak for a big, talented, fast winger who can score and a 1-2 D.
- haymac


Bourque et Markov?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
Subban and Price are the only Mtl players that solve Oilers' needs. If they move Yak for anything else they failed.

Subban is due for a big pay day after last season. The Habs might be persuaded to change that asset. The Oilers are asking for a boatload for him.

- Zarny

U dont trade young, elite norris winners.
They got their bridge contract with him, now theyll pay him
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
Package A would involve Jarred Tinordi, Lars Eller, Zachary Fucale
--- Package B Jarred Tinordi, Brendan Gallagher, Zachary Fucale

To Montreal: Nail Yakupov

Age, Potential--- you have to give up alot for a 1st overall pick that is 20
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Oct 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
I for one would like to know where Ek has heard that MTL has all this interest in Yakupov? MB has said time and time again that he will build the Habs the right way and giving up a boatload of talent for a guy like Yakupov doesn't fit. Besides, Yakupov is completely unproven and he has failed to impress anyone so far this season.

Yakupov will not end up in MTL anytime soon. Heard it here first!!
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Oct 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
Package A would involve Jarred Tinordi, Lars Eller, Raphel Diaz--- Package B Jarred Tinordi, Brendan Gallagher, Zachary Fucale

To Montreal: Nail Yakupov

Age, Potential--- you have to give up alot for a 1st overall pick that is 19

- AlfieisKing


Right, keep dreamin'
ABFan918
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.26.2013

Oct 26 @ 6:59 PM ET
I would love to see Yakupov in MTL to play with Galchenyuk, but man, what will it cost? Is there something habs would be willing to give and Oilers to take? I have a feeling that what it would take would likely be too much and not worthed from a habs perspective
- Frank0721


I agree. Yak is 19 and the problem they have with him is that he tries to go around too many people on his own. The kid has got too much talent and when he reigns it in and gets fixed on a proper top 6 line where he is able to pass to someone that can keep up like he did last year, he is and was unstoppable.

What does a team like Edmonton who covets young players as they are in year 7 of their 10 year rebuild want. They need a starting goalie but Montreal isn't going to get rid of Price. They need a number one dman who is young but PK is the only one that fits that description. The habs have young forwards but why trade Yak for Galyenchuk? I would think the habs would have to throw in a draft pick at least to make it work and it doesn't fix holes in either team.

I think this rumor is another hoax unless this is a 3 way trade.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 7:00 PM ET
Right, keep dreamin'
- MadManPaddy


Why what makes the deal unfair? Fucale? Eller?

Eller (13th overall)
Tinordi (22nd overall) would be part of a fair package. I'd rather trade Gall
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Oct 26 @ 7:02 PM ET
Yakupov for Gallagher, Tinordi+
ABFan918
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.26.2013

Oct 26 @ 7:07 PM ET
Right, keep dreamin'
- MadManPaddy


I wouldn't Take Lars, Gallager and Fucaly for Yak if I was the Oilers. Lars is a decent third line center and maybe one day a second but the Oilers have two and their second line has a NTC. Both better than lars however they are smaller but still with more talent. Gallager is good but would again not be good enough to make the Oilers top 6 anytime soon, if ever. Fucally is a prospect goalie. He might be the next best thing. However picking a goalie prospect at that age is like tossing a coin. Oilers prospect Oliver did great for Canada at the World Jrs but now it looks like he will never play in the NHL. Subban was a high goalie pick and he is not looking to make the NHL as a back up anytime soon. Prospect sites are now rating him as unlikely to ever be a starter and he was ranked higher than Zachary.

Yak is a proven commodity. He has been playing mostly 3rd and 4th line minutes these last 2 years and his numbers speak for themselves. On a team that is less than perfect. Lars, Gallager and someone proven is the cost. Or a number 1 pick. MacT loves his picks.
Zarny
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.26.2013

Oct 26 @ 7:07 PM ET
It would be tinordi or beaulieu. Not both. Do you know what you're getting in pleks and colberg? And tinordi and first. Done deal and thats the overpayment you're asking for. I cringe at how much would be going edms way.
- munky123



The Oilers aren't interested in Plekanec or Collberg. Tinordi and Beaulieu aren't interesting either.

It's too much of what the Oilers already have. Plekanec offers nothing different from Nuge or Gagner. The Oilers have their own Collberg...he's called Linus Omark. Kelfbom, Marincin and Nurse are as good or better D prospects than Beaulieu and Tinordi.

None of that fills any holes for the Oilers.

Since the Habs don't have a 6'-2" 220 LB winger that gets 65 pts Subban and Price are the only logical names. Perhaps Fucale as a prospect but he's 4-5 years out. He won't be a centerpiece.

I don't see the Habs moving Price but Subban is due for a big pay day. Like really big. It would take more than Yakupov to get Subban but that's the only package they could be talking about.

MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Oct 26 @ 7:08 PM ET
Why what makes the deal unfair? Fucale? Eller?

Eller (13th overall)
Tinordi (22nd overall) would be part of a fair package. I'd rather trade Gall

- AlfieisKing


When those players were drafted have nothing to do with anything. MTL will not part with any of those guys. They know what they have in them.

Look, I get Yakupov is young. I get that he is talented. I also get that he was a 1st overall pick. However, he is still unproven and his troubles thus far (although par for the course) this season act as a huge warning signal for other teams. He is worth more to the Oilers than he is to any other team, because he was a 1st overall pick.

You might recall the name of Alexander Daigle. Just because your a #1 overall pick doesn't guarantee success at the NHL level.

Prusthemust
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.16.2013

Oct 26 @ 7:11 PM ET
Why what makes the deal unfair? Fucale? Eller?

Eller (13th overall)
Tinordi (22nd overall) would be part of a fair package. I'd rather trade Gall

- AlfieisKing


Ok yeah Detroit should be trading Datsyuk Zetterberg+ to get a 10%bust 1rst ov?
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Oct 26 @ 7:12 PM ET
The Oilers aren't interested in Plekanec or Collberg. Tinordi and Beaulieu aren't interesting either.

It's too much of what the Oilers already have. Plekanec offers nothing different from Nuge or Gagner. The Oilers have their own Collberg...he's called Linus Omark. Kelfbom, Marincin and Nurse are as good or better D prospects than Beaulieu and Tinordi.

None of that fills any holes for the Oilers.

Since the Habs don't have a 6'-2" 220 LB winger that gets 65 pts Subban and Price are the only logical names. Perhaps Fucale as a prospect but he's 4-5 years out. He won't be a centerpiece.

I don't see the Habs moving Price but Subban is due for a big pay day. Like really big. It would take more than Yakupov to get Subban but that's the only package they could be talking about.

- Zarny



Yes, it would take a lot more than Yakupov to get Subban. Non-starter....MTL won't be dealing Subban anytime soon.

EDM will keep Yakupov and allow him to develop. He will be good for them down the road when he puts it all together....if he puts it all together.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Why what makes the deal unfair? Fucale? Eller?

Eller (13th overall)
Tinordi (22nd overall) would be part of a fair package. I'd rather trade Gall

- AlfieisKing

Who the (frank) cares where they were drafted? Weber was a 3rd rounder, why don't you just go and get him for Yak, since he was the 1st overall.
haymac
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.17.2011

Oct 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
You won't be able to get both, at least 1 of the 2 will be a elite prospect in their position. Always try to out yourself in the other GM shoes. Why would I give more to receive the equal or less amount in the present and in the future?
- koarik91

Well, it would be a lot to give, but Yak has the raw tools and potential. He needs the coaching and the right line mates as well as time to put it together. Being on lines with all small to medium sized forwards is restricting his play, just as the lack of big wingers on the top 2 lines is holding back the talented Oilers from reaching their potential. I'm suggesting a trade that could benefit both Parties.
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