poisondhearts37
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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David Poile... DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. We don't need that crazy, no personality having, no puck stopping moron franking up our team!! Are we clear!? - R4Z0R
You guys play the style of game that made him good in PHX. Get him. Showcase him while Rinne gets Healthy. If he can return. Then you move him at the deadline for some help. |
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HabsRUs
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: "I have to be strong, you know Joined: 10.23.2006
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Agreed, even if you want to argue that Yakupov's value is less than a top5 pick Edmonton will not trade him for futures. Futures can be included in the deal to pry Yaks away from Edmonton but that's it.
Edmonton would take no less than Subban & Fucale. I get the feeling they would want a replacement top 6 young forward as well. I can understand that the deal would be way to much for Montreal to pay for a risk but that is the price if you want a former 1st overall pick with the potential of scoring 30-40 goals a season.
Yakupov, N.Schultz
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Subban, Bourque, Fucale, 2014 1st (lottery protected).
Too much to pay for the Habs? ABSOLUTELY! That is the point, you don't get a guy with that much potential who was a 1st overall pick ONE YEAR AGO for easily replaceable pieces, I don't care how bad you think Yakupov is playing right now.
Either pay up or shut up, lol.
- Steven_Dean
And you also don't trade away a proven NORRIS winner (maybe even back to back, who knows?) that is only 23 years old, for an unproven winger.
Not to mention ADDING another roster player, a first round pick and a highly touted goalie that just won the memorial cup.
This is the most insane proposal I ever saw... I know Yakupov has huge potential, but its still just "potential" until he proves himself.
And when he does reach his potential (if ever), you can start to talk about Subban and Yakupov straight up |
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Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: KL Joined: 07.10.2012
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Wut :O i get you're a leaf fans but i think you underestimate Subban... Norris winer... just saying. - guitar_ft
I know, Subban is an excellent player but Yakupov can still easily turn into a 30-40 goal scorer. Without a massive overpayment no one is taking Yakupov from Edmonton. I mean would you move Galchenyuk for Pitlick, Marincin, & a 2nd? Because that is the value some people are talking about moving to get a 1st overall pick. |
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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I know, Subban is an excellent player but Yakupov can still easily turn into a 30-40 goal scorer. Without a massive overpayment no one is taking Yakupov from Edmonton. I mean would you move Galchenyuk for Pitlick, Marincin, & a 2nd? Because that is the value some people are talking about moving to get a 1st overall pick. - Steven_Dean
A 30-40 goal scorer is as valuable as a Norris winning Dman. Esp if Subban can keep up being nominated. I dont really see how either team would have to add to get the other guy. Now with this said. I do not like Subban. But id almost have to think that EDM would have to add. |
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Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: KL Joined: 07.10.2012
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And you also don't trade away a proven NORRIS winner (maybe even back to back, who knows?) that is only 23 years old, for an unproven winger.
Not to mention ADDING another roster player, a first round pick and a highly touted goalie that just won the memorial cup.
This is the most insane proposal I ever saw... I know Yakupov has huge potential, but its still just "potential" until he proves himself.
And when he does reach his potential (if ever), you can start to talk about Subban and Yakupov straight up - HabsRUs
A good reason not to make the deal I proposed (although you should probably read 10 more words to see the comment I made about how much of an overpayment that would be), but don't think you'll get a former 1st overall for mid picks and prospects who are only projected to be 2nd/3rd liners. That is just as insane as my offer. |
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barclayman
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Saskatoon , SK Joined: 06.12.2007
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Imo the oilers would be stupid to accept anything other then an over payment for a guy drafted 1st overall a year ago, and the habs would be stupid to overpay for a guy struggling to play within a system - patheticgirl43
This |
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shill-17
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Richmond Hill, ON Joined: 11.09.2011
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Tinordi, Gallagher, Furcale and a 1st - Bieksa#3
Sounds like overpayment but this is probably what it would take, first being conditional |
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HabsRUs
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: "I have to be strong, you know Joined: 10.23.2006
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A good reason not to make the deal I proposed (although you should probably read 10 more words to see the comment I made about how much of an overpayment that would be), but don't think you'll get a former 1st overall for mid picks and prospects who are only projected to be 2nd/3rd liners. That is just as insane as my offer. - Steven_Dean
I know it will take an overpayment to get Yakupov. But by overpayment Im thinking names like Pacioretty, Eller, Gallagher, Tinordi, Beaulieu, high draft picks, our top prospects. (not altogether of course, but some combination)
Just not Subban. You don't give away a 23 year old Norris winner (on a very weak defense core) for an unproven forward. Sure he could be close to a Bure, but he could also be Daigle. There are already some question marks in just his 2nd season.
Im sure if Montreal offered up Subban for Yakupov, the Oilers wouldn't even ask for anything else. Especially not Borque, Fucale and a 1st rounder. |
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I know it will take an overpayment to get Yakupov. But by overpayment Im thinking names like Pacioretty, Eller, Gallagher, Tinordi, Beaulieu, high draft picks, our top prospects. (not altogether of course, but some combination)
Just not Subban. You don't give away a 23 year old Norris winner (on a very weak defense core) for an unproven forward. Sure he could be close to a Bure, but he could also be Daigle. There are already some question marks in just his 2nd season.
Im sure if Montreal offered up Subban for Yakupov, the Oilers wouldn't even ask for anything else. Especially not Borque, Fucale and a 1st rounder. - HabsRUs
The Oilers would have to give more than Yak for Subban. |
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Tinordi, Gallagher, Furcale and a 1st - Bieksa#3
Thats overpayment for a guy who has proved very little thus far.
Make it Beaulieu Fucale and a 1st.....
Beaulieu is a former first and Fucale could be the future number 1 Edmonton needs.
I dont see Montreal giving Tinordi or Gallagher up.
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A 30-40 goal scorer is as valuable as a Norris winning Dman. Esp if Subban can keep up being nominated. I dont really see how either team would have to add to get the other guy. Now with this said. I do not like Subban. But id almost have to think that EDM would have to add. - poisondhearts37
30-40 goal... you would trade Matt Moulson vs Karlson or Chara?
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But, I thought Bryz was going to Pittsburgh according to you ... |
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munky123
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: MTL, QC Joined: 05.10.2011
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Fair
I think if a deal were to take place, that edm should demand Furcale be going to them as part of the return - Bieksa#3
fair? haha no way that ever happens. pac and tinordi? for yaks hahahaha |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Any proposal that involves Subban is insane. No way in the world is that happening this year or the near future. Top 5 dman in the league at a low cap hit, probably the best contract in the league right now. In terms of value he's worth way more than Yakupov. At the same time, is he even what the Oilers need for their team? Yes, every team would want Subban, but to me if the Oilers get 2-3 players that can be solid contributors it's much better than adding one guy, no matter how good he is. If Yakupov can get them a proven top 4 defenseman, a top six winger and a first rounder, that would make their team as a whole so much better. |
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blk4x499
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: La Habra, CA Joined: 07.18.2010
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According to Oil fans Yakupov is worth more than that. Throw in Price and it's a deal. - Itsjustarash
According to Oiler fans he's worth 3 1st round draft picks and he has done nothing in the NHL to even prove he was worth the number 1 over all pick in the 2012 draft.
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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30-40 goal... you would trade Matt Moulson vs Karlson or Chara? - Prusthemust
It all depends on the player. But the guy was saying since Yak could be a 30-40 goal guy hes worth more. I also said I think that EDM would have to prolly give more to get Subban. Theyre both very valuable assets. But just because a guy is a potential or is a 30-40 goal guy doesnt mean hes worth more than a Norris Dman. I just felt he was undervaluing what a Norris Dman is worth. |
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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If you guys want immediate help I would give you
Diaz, Fucale, Collberg and a 1st.
And I'm being generous since Yak is not a priority in MTL
It's all about offer and demand and I'm pretty sure MTL doesn't want him that much
We know Mctavish wanted to draft Fucale and we took it 2 spots down from you and by the way Dubnyk is playing. I'm pretty sure he wants Fucale even more now. Heck, even Budaj or Totarski would be better than Dubnyk right now |
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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If you guys want immediate help I would give you
Diaz, Fucale, Collberg and a 1st.
And I'm being generous since Yak is not a priority in MTL
It's all about offer and demand and I'm pretty sure MTL doesn't want him that much
We know Mctavish wanted to draft Fucale and we took it 2 spots down from you and by the way Dubnyk is playing. I'm pretty sure he wants Fucale even more now. Heck, even Budaj or Totarski would be better than Dubnyk right now - koarik91
Thats a terrible trade and not even close to immediate help that EDM needs. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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If you guys want immediate help I would give you
Diaz, Fucale, Collberg and a 1st.
And I'm being generous since Yak is not a priority in MTL
It's all about offer and demand and I'm pretty sure MTL doesn't want him that much
We know Mctavish wanted to draft Fucale and we took it 2 spots down from you and by the way Dubnyk is playing. I'm pretty sure he wants Fucale even more now. Heck, even Budaj or Totarski would be better than Dubnyk right now - koarik91
we have no interest in diaz or your picks
and you sound ignorant when u speak of dubnyk. have you been sleeping for the past couple weeks? or did u hear someone talk about how bad he was in his first few and stop paying attention since
there needs to be an iq prerequisite on hockeybuzz. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Thats a terrible trade and not even close to immediate help that EDM needs. - poisondhearts37
this..
just terrible. no thank you
he either way undervalues yaks. or way overvalues anyone in his fav organization.
either way. clueless.. |
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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this..
just terrible. no thank you
he either way undervalues yaks. or way overvalues anyone in his fav organization.
either way. clueless.. - hugefemale dog77
Its both. |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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I think something around Plekanec, Gorges, collberg and a First for Klefbom and Yakupov would do it. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I think something around Plekanec, Gorges, collberg and a First for Klefbom and Yakupov would do it. - soad_live
I just don't see us putting much stock in a first as high value. we want help now.
but we also have enough gorges types.
take out gorges and the first and replace him tirnordi and bealieau. especially since your getting klefbom too |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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I just don't see us putting much stock in a first as high value. we want help now.
but we also have enough gorges types.
take out gorges and the first and replace him tirnordi and bealieau. especially since your getting klefbom too - hugefemale dog77
No way Tinordi is involved.
Keep klefbom.
Plekanec, collberg and Beaulieu for yakupov and N. Schultz |
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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this..
just terrible. no thank you
he either way undervalues yaks. or way overvalues anyone in his fav organization.
either way. clueless.. - hugefemale dog77
I haven't undervalue anyone. Please tell me that you know that trades are not only base on value since if it was the case. Gretzky wouldn't have been traded during his career.
Diaz, as much as I hate him. As played the most minutes in average in almost all the canadiens games so far. This kid has less upside than Beaulieu but was more constant defensively. I only said if you want more ready type of players, I would give him. If not, we could always give you beaulieu but he's only about 1-2 years to have an impact in the NHL.
Collberg was predicted to be drafted around 15th during the draft 2 years ago.
I have see him play and the kid as huge offensive skills. He won't replace Yak that's for sure but he's still a projected 30-35 Sniper.
Fucale - Don't really have to say anything since your GM already wanted him.
1st round pick that should be mid-20
Don't get me wrong, I love Yak and the play he brings with him but let's just remember that you focus a lot on the fact that he his a #1 pick when it wasn't clear since either him, Murray or Galchenyuk could have been picked #1
(I wouldn't mind giving you Plekanec in a deal as well)
*Sorry if there's any spelling errors |
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