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Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

Oct 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
It is a poorly executed hit by Chara. However you're reaching because you are butt-hurt. If a report comes from SJ today that Wingels is concussed then Chara should be disciplined.

The other and biggest problem nobody in their infinite whining yesterday and today has discussed is how inconsistent the department of player safety is. The message is unclear and that's the only thing consistent with them.

- glove_was_stuck



Ah... So ONLY if he's concussed, there should be supplemental discipline...

I guess knocking Wingels out of the game in the 1st doesn't count then.

Gotcha.

Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
once Miller gets traded, what are Sabres fans going to harp on against you guys? Your player hit our ex goalie 3 years ago...teams dont forget, we want blood!

It was a dumb play but come on Miller is still playing, he didnt stop being a good goalie bc of it, nothing impactful really came out of it. The majority of Avs fans dont care about Bertuzzi anymore, its in the past, I dont really get how this is such a heated point for some fans

- DDM-Coga

it's not going to stop as long as the Sabres suck. that's what it boils down to. i give them credit for at least being numerous but they've got absolutely nothing going for them with no sign of light on the horizon.

so let them boast and chirp about how Scott beat up Thornton and has delivered 2 concussions to Bruins players. it just demonstrates how incredibly pitiful their situation is.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
Chara should be suspended for the hit to Wingels. 1-2 games. Will he be, probably not. One of the biggest problems in the NHL today is the favoring to superstars.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Didn't like the Z hit, thought he played like garbage last night and that was an example of it. Went out of his way to finish that check and took himself out of position, caught him high, if he gets a game or two it's not unwarranted.

Leaving the Scott talk alone since Sabres fans are clearly missing the point.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Oct 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Chara is really tall and can't skate well, and I know he didn't mean to do it. Just following through with his check. - What Sabres fans should say after the John Scott discussion.
theduder6
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Are Sabres fans really commenting on other boards about questionable hits?!? Yes it seemed high, but Wingels also seemed to be trying to duck the hit. Needless to say if the league does decide to give Chara a call, we have enough talent to fill the gap until he gets back. I'll take our 7 W's over your 9 L's.
- dkilo11087


Wow talk about biased. If that was Scott, who has never been suspended, people would say he is a scumbag and dirty. You guys are pathetic. Nobody says boo about chara, and it seem obvious that we was going high. Oh and didnt he just crosscheck somebody in the head that game too, with no penalty?
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
Wow talk about biased. If that was Scott, who has never been suspended, people would say he is a scumbag and dirty. You guys are pathetic. Nobody says boo about chara, and it seem obvious that we was going high. Oh and didnt he just crosscheck somebody in the head that game too, with no penalty?
- theduder6


People complain about Z all the time. He gets booed in pretty much every visiting arena.
theduder6
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Was an open ice hit on a goalie that roamed out of his comfort zone. Wasn't a suspendable play so get over it.

Don't think Ty was playing the victim, merely calling it for what it is, Scott wouldn't play on 95% of the other teams in the league, he gets out scored every year by GOALIES.

No Bruins fans claim the team is innocent, far from it, but not half as bad as all the Butt Hurt that goes on in here. Bruins employ NO TRUE GOONS on the team, they all have a role and play a significance.

Every team in the league has made stupid plays or had bad hits but come on, Bruins play hard nose hockey from 4 lines, like other teams in the league as well. Only teams that can't match the style of play to a pedigree that the Bruins and a handful of other teams can, that's when the opposing fan's cry Butt hurt and it turns into this.

- MrBeanTown


Actually, the word was damn near every GM was po'd that lucic was not suspended. You cant just run goalies like that. Lucic is full of poop saying he didnt mean to. Shannahan knows he should have been suspended, and I believe behind closed doors he acknowledged that.
Putzfrau
Buffalo Sabres
Location: reality would be kryptonite to you in the real world. -DoctorNHL
Joined: 11.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 11:27 AM ET
Was an open ice hit on a goalie that roamed out of his comfort zone. Wasn't a suspendable play so get over it.

Don't think Ty was playing the victim, merely calling it for what it is, Scott wouldn't play on 95% of the other teams in the league, he gets out scored every year by GOALIES.

No Bruins fans claim the team is innocent, far from it, but not half as bad as all the Butt Hurt that goes on in here. Bruins employ NO TRUE GOONS on the team, they all have a role and play a significance.

Every team in the league has made stupid plays or had bad hits but come on, Bruins play hard nose hockey from 4 lines, like other teams in the league as well. Only teams that can't match the style of play to a pedigree that the Bruins and a handful of other teams can, that's when the opposing fan's cry Butt hurt and it turns into this.

- MrBeanTown



It was a reckless, dangerous, and unnecessarily violent play. Also the goalie isn't fair game just because he's outside the crease. Is in the rules actually.

Personally I think it's a little ridiculous that players/teams should get a free pass because "they all have a roll and play a significance."

It's basically just saying as long as your decent at hockey you can be as reckless as you want.

Considering both chara and lucic have had more supplemental discipline, couldn't you argue that they actually play a more dangerous game?

Just seems like lambasting the whole sabres organization over literally the first suspendable hit Scott has ever made is a little ridiculous, especially when similar attitudes aren't taken against equally as dangerous hits, perpetrated by players that actually have documented suspensions. By players that have put other players into the hospital through careless decision making.

That's why there is an uproar. That's why you have obnoxious fans infesting the comments with "lol karma".

If we as hockey fans want to be outraged at the lack of respect, at the unnecessary violence I'm all for it. But that's certainly not whats going on. It's not a blanket "these types of dangerous plays have no place in hockey" it's become more like "when a player on my team is the victim it's awful, when they are the perpetrator it's 'unfortunate decision making/being lazy"

The double standard is ridiculous. And you invite this type of conversation when you put an entire blogs worth of effort into demonizing an entire organization. Into criticizing not only the dangerous and reckless hockey hockey play but insulting everything about him.

Regardless, was a good game for the bruins. Always awesome when you can squeeze out a win in games like that.

I'm sure in a week sabres fans will have some new tragedy to cry about
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
Actually, the word was damn near every GM was po'd that lucic was not suspended. You cant just run goalies like that. Lucic is full of poop saying he didnt mean to. Shannahan knows he should have been suspended, and I believe behind closed doors he acknowledged that.
- theduder6


Funny thing is I've heard lots of comments from hockey people that Miller invited it. Dead horse but IMO it looks very much like Miller attempts to initiate the contact, dropping the shoulder and then gets trucked and threw a hissy fit afterwards because he got the worst of it. Looch shouldn't have done it, but Miller wasn't blameless.
Putzfrau
Buffalo Sabres
Location: reality would be kryptonite to you in the real world. -DoctorNHL
Joined: 11.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
Funny thing is I've heard lots of comments from hockey people that Miller invited it. Dead horse but IMO it looks very much like Miller attempts to initiate the contact, dropping the shoulder and then gets trucked and threw a hissy fit afterwards because he got the worst of it. Looch shouldn't have done it, but Miller wasn't blameless.
- Double_A



In the same way that loui should have kept his head up? Give me a break.


Just to be clear, I would never make that assertion. I don't think loui or miller was to blame at all.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
Every team has a history of being "dirty". Hockey is a violent game, people are fast, people get hurt. Plain and simple. Remember when Stuart (frank)ed up Landeskog, Sharks fans? Things happen fast on the ice.

The Chara hit on Wingels, to many anyways, just looked like a big guy hitting a little guy. If Chara doesn't finish that check he gets a mouthful from Julien. I think we need to remember that hockey involves contact, contact involves injury. Every time somebody gets their bell rung we can't go on a crusade.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
People complain about Z all the time. He gets booed in pretty much every visiting arena.
- Double_A

If the Sharks had a bruiser who has booed in every barn other than the Pavilion I'd love the guy. Toughness in hockey is something that should be appreciated, not shunned.

I mean, (frank), we employ Raffi Torres
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Funny thing is I've heard lots of comments from hockey people that Miller invited it. Dead horse but IMO it looks very much like Miller attempts to initiate the contact, dropping the shoulder and then gets trucked and threw a hissy fit afterwards because he got the worst of it. Looch shouldn't have done it, but Miller wasn't blameless.
- Double_A

I always thought goalies were fair game playing the puck outside the crease until that hit and poop storm happened
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
In the same way that loui should have kept his head up? Give me a break.


Just to be clear, I would never make that assertion. I don't think loui or miller was to blame at all.

- Putzfrau


Maybe it's because I've seen Timmy layout guys plenty of times like that, but watching the video it sure looks like Miller was trying to put the shoulder into Looches chest, he was certainly prepared for the contact.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
Funny thing is I've heard lots of comments from hockey people that Miller invited it. Dead horse but IMO it looks very much like Miller attempts to initiate the contact, dropping the shoulder and then gets trucked and threw a hissy fit afterwards because he got the worst of it. Looch shouldn't have done it, but Miller wasn't blameless.
- Double_A

77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
Stop it. He's in this league because of teams like Boston. And comparing the hit isn't silly, chara and John Scott are almost the same height and had similar hits. He isn't a dirty player, he fights which is a big difference. If memory serves me correct don't the habs have George Paros?
- jaumiller


no, he's in the league because the Sabres suck so bad, he is good enough to make their team. Salary cap was supposed to help small market teams like buffalo, but year after year, they get worse. Hell, we had PJ Stock on our team once, and you know what? That team sucked too.
yinzer_nation
Location: Acceptance
Joined: 02.28.2013

Oct 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
Refreshing after the Sabres to go against a team who plays the right way.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
Actually, the word was damn near every GM was po'd that lucic was not suspended. You cant just run goalies like that. Lucic is full of poop saying he didnt mean to. Shannahan knows he should have been suspended, and I believe behind closed doors he acknowledged that.
- theduder6


It was??? where did this "Word" come from, I want sources, first I've heard of that.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
sorry, double post....
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:18 PM ET
On a lighter and absolutely unrelated note.... Former two time 50 goal scorer Dany Heatley potted his first goal of the season last night only 11 games into the season... It was an empty netter!!!
sliprock65
Joined: 08.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
I'm a Habs fan so believe me the last thing I want to do is stick up for a Bruin. But I really can't see the hit from this angle to see if it was a headshot or not. From the angle it looks like the guy got plastered into the boards, if it is a headshot then Chara deserves the suspension.

But this hit isn't even close to the hit Scott put out.

If I were the Sabres fans, the last thing I'd be concerned about is headshots by other players, I'd worry about how bad this team has gotten over the years and seems to be getting.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
Ah... So ONLY if he's concussed, there should be supplemental discipline...

I guess knocking Wingels out of the game in the 1st doesn't count then.

Gotcha.


- Team_Teal


Maybe you have a better angle on it, but it didn't look like Chara got his elbows up, he didn't hit him in the middle of the back, .. sometimes people get hurt on clean plays too, and again, that's just the angle I saw, if you have a better one....
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:23 PM ET
I'm a Habs fan so believe me the last thing I want to do is stick up for a Bruin. But I really can't see the hit from this angle to see if it was a headshot or not. From the angle it looks like the guy got plastered into the boards, if it is a headshot then Chara deserves the suspension.

But this hit isn't even close to the hit Scott put out.

If I were the Sabres fans, the last thing I'd be concerned about is headshots by other players, I'd worry about how bad this team has gotten over the years and seems to be getting.

- sliprock65


THIS


Imagine how awesome they're gonna be after they trade Miller for draft pics.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:32 PM ET
Come on Ty? Really? Erikkson a top 6 forward??? What a joke. I don't even know how you have a blog???

Also your John Scott Rant was pathetic as a 2 year old crying for Ice Cream. Yes he hit the guy in the head, and gets what he deserves.

Chara should be suspended for his hit as well. 10 Game Minimum.

You wanna clean up head hits, Automatic 10 Games.
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