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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
If they get traffic in front of the net, the d core aka the gang that can't shoot straight will start breaking feet again.
- PLindbergh31

~ Dec 1, some serious forensics need to be done on this team. first question might be- how did it get this bad?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
What else are you planning to trade with Simmonds for a number 1 dman?
- funmaster18


The only plan I can think of is:
Simmonds, Coburn, middle "prospect" (Akeson-esque, not Laughton/Cousins/the young D). It won't get you a Pietrangelo, but it may get you a Myers or Johnson.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
~ Dec 1, some serious forensics need to be done on this team. first question might be- how did it get this bad?
- isaiah520


The defense core sans Coburn look like they are skating in quicksand.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'm still not on the "trade for a top scorer" wagon, but if one's available, I'm not opposed to moving Simmonds. Coming back and winning that fight was the best thing he's done all year. He just looks awful. Of all of the disappointments this year, he's my #1.
- jmatchett383

made massengill look like a douche...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
The skaters sans Coburn and Read look like they are skating in quicksand.
- PLindbergh31

FTFY
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
The defense core sans Coburn look like they are skating in quicksand.
- PLindbergh31

Homer likes those big slow Dmen
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
they're at such a premium, they'd have to trade G for one and w/ the way he's playing...but in the real world, Buf is the only guy who i think might be on their radar and that's a huge risk in so many ways w/ his issues and the prospect of watching the compensation, like schenn, developing in WPG...
- isaiah520


They're not getting a Weber, Pietrangelo, Subban, etc.

They have to find a guy who isn't playing top pairing minutes or perceived as one, but whom the Flyers think can be that guy if given the opportunity.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
Mook had some good moments last nite, but other times he seemed lost and like most others, seemed to be skating in mud.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
They're not getting a Weber, Pietrangelo, Subban, etc.

They have to find a guy who isn't playing top pairing minutes or perceived as one, but whom the Flyers think can be that guy if given the opportunity.

- bradleyc4

i know you love couts, but if they just draft hamilton, they'd have one by nxt yr
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
~ Dec 1, some serious forensics need to be done on this team. first question might be- how did it get this bad?
- isaiah520

bad trades, no depth at the farm
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
i know you love couts, but if they just draft hamilton, they'd have one by nxt yr
- isaiah520


Yeah, Hamilton's a good one. Still prefer Couturier.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
Ah more doom and gloom.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
i know you love couts, but if they just draft hamilton, they'd have one by nxt yr
- isaiah520


That's almost of a sure thing as G constantly progressing to one of the top-3 players in the game.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
Yeah, Hamilton's a good one. Still prefer Couturier.
- bradleyc4


Carlson instead of Eminger would've helped years ago.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
I noticed this as well. There was a sequence where a Ranger was wide open in the slot. His shot was blocked/missed and went behind the net. 10 seconds later, he was WIDE OPEN IN THE SLOT AGAIN. Mason made the save and held on, which is awesome and all, but these are just basic defensive coverages. You can't have 3 guys down low at the goal line in your zone.

Of course, we all know that IF Giroux was constantly sprinting towards the goal line, Kesler wouldn't have scored on a fluke empty netter in the Vancouver game. So I guess it's the center's duty to play directly in front of his goalie.

- jmatchett383


this is the sequence i was talking about. shocked the puck didn't go in.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Carlson instead of Eminger would've helped years ago.
- Flyers_01


Nobody knows who they would have selected with that pick.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
worse team in the league executing odd man breaks
- nastyflyergirl


still.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Claude is having a lot to deal with....a finger and 8 mill a year
- vejim

He's not getting those big bucks until next year. -1
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Who else are you planning to trade with Simmonds for a number 1 dman?
- funmaster18


There were rumors that Winnipeg wanted Voracek, Coburn, and a Prospect for Buff and Little. I would switch Voracek for Simmonds and make the Prospect either Atl or Konan, try and keep them away from Cousins and Laughton.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
He's not getting those big bucks until next year. -1
- BulliesPhan87

unless he is traded this year +1
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
i know you love couts, but if they just draft hamilton, they'd have one by nxt yr
- isaiah520


Can you imagine. Instead of Couts and Laughton we could have had Hamilton and Maata.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
unless he is traded this year +1
- vejim

I... um... what?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
Can you imagine. Instead of Couts and Laughton we could have had Hamilton and Maata.
- youarewrong


shoulda coulda woulda....im sure a lot of teams wish they picked giroux.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
I never thought I would say this, but they miss Briere's example. He may have been on the downside, but he scored greasy goals (when he was scoring) and went to the ugly parts of the ice.

He was the smallest guy out there and was always around the net when he was playing well.

Giroux.......jesus what the hell happened here? Why has the slot become kryptonite to you?

I wanted to reach through the screen last night when he passed up the shot on that 3 on 1. TAKE THE SHOT, even if you have nothing to shoot at, keep it low because you have two other players in good positions for rebounds....

As for Simmonds, please just go to the net and do not try to carry the puck anywhere.


youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
shoulda coulda woulda....im sure a lot of teams wish they picked giroux.
- PhillaBully


True, but how many teams that NEEDED a RW and had many NHL Defenseman, passed up Giroux to select another defenseman....
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