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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 26 @ 12:27 AM ET
Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets
@NHLFlyers prospect Tyrell Goulbourne with a big period. A goal and an assist for the heart and soul guy for the Rockets.

- ob18



NO WAY!!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:31 AM ET
and what is this need exactly?
- hammarby31

"Perceived" need...have to have a replacement for Zac when he gets to RFA and gets more money?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 26 @ 1:05 AM ET
Hi!

I'm actually the Rangers' mod, but this was on the silly side of ridiculous tonight.

How's the hockey? Are you still on a post-Maccabi high?

- bodiva88

Bo you ref the Rag's now?! I was wondering where you got to
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 26 @ 1:10 AM ET
I absolutely think that's Russian bias, right there. If his name was "Tyler Jordan Nugent-Hopkins-Eberle," drafted No. 1 out of Moose Jaw, I'd bet a paycheck that he wouldn't have gotten scratched.
- AllInForFlyers



Russian bias is a real problem, but I'm not sure it's the only thing at play here.

A lot of highly-regarded prospects/youngsters are also getting scratched these days from a variety of backgrounds... Dougie Hamilton (look no further for a 'good Canadian kid' who does everything he's told, even gets straight A's in school) is regularly sitting out games... Sven Baertchi is a virtual mirror image of Yakupov in Calgary... Adam Larsson and Jacob Josefsson are routinely sitting out for the Devils... Rundblad and Paajarvi can't crack the lineup in Phoenix and St Louis respectively... Yzerman seemingly has it in for Brett Connolly in Tampa.

None of those guys are Russian, but all have something in common... for better or worse, they're not playing the game the 'right way' yet... and in some cases, they're pigheaded children that have some growing up to do. If Taylor Hall regularly told Eakins to go F himself with his play and his comments, I'd bet he'd find himself in the Shelley Suite, too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 8:20 AM ET
Russian bias is a real problem, but I'm not sure it's the only thing at play here.

A lot of highly-regarded prospects/youngsters are also getting scratched these days from a variety of backgrounds... Dougie Hamilton (look no further for a 'good Canadian kid' who does everything he's told, even gets straight A's in school) is regularly sitting out games... Sven Baertchi is a virtual mirror image of Yakupov in Calgary... Adam Larsson and Jacob Josefsson are routinely sitting out for the Devils... Rundblad and Paajarvi can't crack the lineup in Phoenix and St Louis respectively... Yzerman seemingly has it in for Brett Connolly in Tampa.

None of those guys are Russian, but all have something in common... for better or worse, they're not playing the game the 'right way' yet... and in some cases, they're pigheaded children that have some growing up to do. If Taylor Hall regularly told Eakins to go F himself with his play and his comments, I'd bet he'd find himself in the Shelley Suite, too.

- Tomahawk




MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 8:24 AM ET
It was a simple question that had no bearing on his "physical limitations" unless you are saying that being small is a reason to not pay attention to both ends of the ice?

Basically he didn't like to come back and play defense.

- Flyers_01


Brier's physical limitations absolutely had something to do with his quality of defensive play. He wasn't adept at physical battles for pucks. And he also did not always make the best effort at times. But the bottom line is that Eakins is trying to make Yakupov a better player. For his benefit and the teams.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 26 @ 8:59 AM ET
Isles beat the Pens in Pittsburgh.. I have my worries about whether or not we can win tomorrow night's game..
- Hextall271


We all should.

The Islanders are going to be a force for some time to come. Flyers fans need to stop thinking about them like the "same old, same old" Islanders.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 26 @ 8:59 AM ET
Oh, my gosh -- Travis Hamonic played 30:21 in that game, and Andrew MacDonald came in at 27:54 -- WOW.
- AllInForFlyers


That's two games worth of ice time for Flyers 6th dman Luke Schenn.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
Russian bias is a real problem, but I'm not sure it's the only thing at play here.

A lot of highly-regarded prospects/youngsters are also getting scratched these days from a variety of backgrounds... Dougie Hamilton (look no further for a 'good Canadian kid' who does everything he's told, even gets straight A's in school) is regularly sitting out games... Sven Baertchi is a virtual mirror image of Yakupov in Calgary... Adam Larsson and Jacob Josefsson are routinely sitting out for the Devils... Rundblad and Paajarvi can't crack the lineup in Phoenix and St Louis respectively... Yzerman seemingly has it in for Brett Connolly in Tampa.

None of those guys are Russian, but all have something in common... for better or worse, they're not playing the game the 'right way' yet... and in some cases, they're pigheaded children that have some growing up to do. If Taylor Hall regularly told Eakins to go F himself with his play and his comments, I'd bet he'd find himself in the Shelley Suite, too.

- Tomahawk


Great post
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
Russian bias is a real problem, but I'm not sure it's the only thing at play here.

A lot of highly-regarded prospects/youngsters are also getting scratched these days from a variety of backgrounds... Dougie Hamilton (look no further for a 'good Canadian kid' who does everything he's told, even gets straight A's in school) is regularly sitting out games... Sven Baertchi is a virtual mirror image of Yakupov in Calgary... Adam Larsson and Jacob Josefsson are routinely sitting out for the Devils... Rundblad and Paajarvi can't crack the lineup in Phoenix and St Louis respectively... Yzerman seemingly has it in for Brett Connolly in Tampa.

None of those guys are Russian, but all have something in common... for better or worse, they're not playing the game the 'right way' yet... and in some cases, they're pigheaded children that have some growing up to do. If Taylor Hall regularly told Eakins to go F himself with his play and his comments, I'd bet he'd find himself in the Shelley Suite, too.

- Tomahawk


Point taken -- I'll acknowledge that.

I still think "playing the right way" is simple code for "stifling scoring," and it seems to disproportionately impact Russian/European players, but again, I concede the point of your post.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
That's two games worth of ice time for Flyers 6th dman Luke Schenn.
- PLindbergh31


It's interesting -- I really didn't think his ice time was down in the last game against the Rangers, because it seemed like he was taking a regular shift...but the numbers don't lie.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
Jimmy Lodge, Oliver Bjorkstrand and Jordan Subban went to other teams after he was picked by the Flyers.

Instead of a potential second line scorer or second pair offensive defenseman they used a 3rd round pick on Zac Rinaldo, 2.0

- Jsaquella

Well that stuff isn't Ghoul's fault.
I'm hoping he makes it.

Plus they have prospects Ghoul and Ghost
Perfect for Halloween

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:45 AM ET
Kathryn Tappen looks particularly lovely this morning...
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:47 AM ET
How has Streit been so far? Not trolling just haven't watched the flyers at all this year
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:50 AM ET
How has Streit been so far? Not trolling just haven't watched the flyers at all this year
- NYI44


You know, some have said he's terrible, but he is what I expected. Above average puck mover with a good shot, but not great in his own end. If the forwards support, he's solid. He wore the A the last game, so he can't be that much of a scrub LOL.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
You know, some have said he's terrible, but he is what I expected. Above average puck mover with a good shot, but not great in his own end. If the forwards support, he's solid. He wore the A the last game, so he can't be that much of a scrub LOL.
- Hextall271


That's exactly how I thought he would be for you guys also. He'll have his terrible games, but he'll also have his good games. I wonder if he'll be clapped or booed tonight. I would think clapped
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
so who would you rather have - G or Taveras?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:56 AM ET

That's exactly how I thought he would be for you guys also. He'll have his terrible games, but he'll also have his good games. I wonder if he'll be clapped or booed tonight. I would think clapped

- NYI44


He's certainly not been the main problem as to why we suck so far. He's also taken over for Timonen as the QB on the top pp unit..
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
so who would you rather have - G or Taveras?
- isaiah520

Every flyer fan is gonna say Giroux, every islander fan is gonna say Tavares. I would obviously take JT
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
so who would you rather have - G or Taveras?
- isaiah520


I'd take G.. but I'd rather have both
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'd take G.. but I'd rather have both
- Hextall271

How many pts does Giroux have this year. I don't feel like looking up the stats
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'd take G.. but I'd rather have both
- Hextall271

How many pts does Giroux have this year. I don't feel like looking up the stats
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
How many pts does Giroux have this year. I don't feel like looking up the stats
- NYI44


3 assists. He's been awful so far.. That being said, I am not ready to say that he's lost all his skill and is now a 15 goal 40 pt 3rd line centre. He is a point a game guy, but on top of him playing poorly, no one else is scoring.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Oct 26 @ 10:01 AM ET
3 assists. He's been awful so far.. That being said, I am not ready to say that he's lost all his skill and is now a 15 goal 40 pt 3rd line centre. He is a point a game guy.
- Hextall271

It's just the first 9 games or so. I'm sure his numbers will go up, but maybe not a point a game. He should be up there though
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 10:04 AM ET
It's just the first 9 games or so. I'm sure his numbers will go up, but maybe not a point a game. He should be up there though
- NYI44


I think he can get to a point per game. I think he's pressing, and his hand prob isn't right yet. People in fantasy are trading him a lot, but I think he's still a solid player. He may not make Team Canada anymore which is really making me angry because I think the experience would be great for him..
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