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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
"With the first pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are proud to select...."
- KINGKENZO


That would be fine.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
Giroux is also coming fresh off of wrist surgery for a torn tendon.
- jak521


Finger surgery.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
That's what I'd expect out of a Calvinist like yourself.
- jmatchett383



This post was pre-destined to happen.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
its more like G scores 3 goals andis the greatest player in hockey. G struggles and he sucks and should be traded. flipping bipolar

I'm actually extremely laid back so it takes a lot to make me pop off . its just the constant one line nothing to offer comments that make me nuts. always said HB needs a filter. 5 word post are hard to skip over because as soon as you scroll down to read the next post, well, 5 words make it hard to skip

- nastyflyergirl

Your first paragraph summarizes the Eagles fanbase -- and why I left it in the late 90's.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
That would be fine.
- hammarby31


if that happens, I may have to come back to go. now that would add some excitement to the game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
Your first paragraph summarizes the Eagles fanbase -- and why I left it in the late 90's.
- Flyskippy


Not sure if you heard back in September that the Eagles were Super Bowl contenders or not. On the other hand, they may go 5-11. But they're great, just need a few tweaks. Even in they do make the playoffs they'll lose. But they're a team that has a real chance to go all the way. They're looking like a 4-12 team.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
Could it be that he really isn't that good?

Time will tell I suppose. I don't care who is on the team as long as they win.

- Flyersgod


He was really good last year, though. Even when he was partnered with AHL callups after Coburn, Meszaros, and Grossmann all got injured. For the last month he played around 25 minutes a night and that was the best the Flyers defense looked all season.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
The extra skating was for conditioning purposes. One of the discussed reasons for his slow play to start the year, is that the Flyers felt that he was not in top condition. Schenn's lack of footspeed was ridiculously overblown. His skating is adequate for the NHL.
- MJL



There's physical shape, and there's skating shape... I don't believe any of the Flyers came to camp this year actually out of physical shape (aka not having hit the gym enough).

Berube's complaint had to do with skating shape... in that a few guys perhaps didn't hit the ice early enough during the offseason and they were slower now for it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
There's physical shape, and there's skating shape... I don't believe any of the Flyers came to camp this year actually out of physical shape (aka not having hit the gym enough).

Berube's complaint had to do with skating shape... in that a few guys perhaps didn't hit the ice early enough during the offseason and they were slower now for it.

- Tomahawk



Both have to do with endurance, not foot speed. Luke Schenn can take all the extra skating he wants, I doubt that's going increase his skating speed. When you get out of gas, you stop moving your feet.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
He was really good last year, though. Even when he was partnered with AHL callups after Coburn, Meszaros, and Grossmann all got injured. For the last month he played around 25 minutes a night and that was the best the Flyers defense looked all season.
- Feanor


+1
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
Both have to do with endurance, not foot speed. Luke Schenn can take all the extra skating he wants, I doubt that's going increase his skating speed.
- MJL


Power skating could. It's been shown to have a positive impact in marginal skaters before. He has a natural limit, just not sure he's reached it.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:51 PM ET

now hold on there lotte!

- isaiah520

"Right Boot."
"Got it."
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
"With the first pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are proud to select...."
- KINGKENZO


I hear the top of the draft this year is loaded with Stamkos types.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
Both have to do with endurance, not foot speed. Luke Schenn can take all the extra skating he wants, I doubt that's going increase his skating speed.
- MJL



NHL players generally don't hit the ice for weeks during the offseason, and it can stretch out to months if they've missed the PO's. The skating muscles might be strong from land training, but they aren't used to being fired in tandem and in sequence... it takes a few weeks for most guys to get their full stride back.

Assuming Schenn is still out of skating shape right now, he actually will be faster than he is right now if he continues to skate skate skate up until the point where his stride is at 100% again. Of course, he's not suddenly going to turn into Pavel Bure or anything.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
Dude, I am not going to lie, your post make me want to kick you in the nuts. you offer nothing but female doging and moaning. I get that the flyers are bad right now and they are in the middle of a rebuild whether the Flyers will admit it or not but for the love of god you are becoming extremely annoying.
- nastyflyergirl



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
Power skating could. It's been shown to have a positive impact in marginal skaters before. He has a natural limit, just not sure he's reached it.
- jmatchett383


He just needs new skates

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
if that happens, I may have to come back to go. now that would add some excitement to the game.
- wilsonecho91



2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
NHL players generally don't hit the ice for weeks during the offseason, and it can stretch out to months if they've missed the PO's. The skating muscles might be strong from land training, but they aren't used to being fired in tandem and in sequence... it takes a few weeks for most guys to get their full stride back.

Assuming Schenn is still out of skating shape right now, he actually will be faster than he is right now if he continues to skate skate skate up until the point where his stride is at 100% again. Of course, he's not suddenly going to turn into Pavel Bure or anything.

- Tomahawk

same thing for basketball
i can run all i want on the tread mill but it doesn't work the same muscles you use when trying to play basketball
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
raffl-G-Vinny...The next great line in Flyers history. It starts tonight.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:58 PM ET
same thing for basketball
i can run all i want on the tread mill but it doesn't work the same muscles you use when trying to play basketball

- 2Real


In basketball you can improve quickness significantly. Quickness is much more important than straight line speed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:00 PM ET
raffl-G-Vinny...The next great line in Flyers history. It starts tonight.
- PhillySportsGuy


When Hartnell gets back, Raffl will be sent back to Adirondack. You don't think the Flyers would do something dumb like waiving Rosehill do you?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
When Hartnell gets back, Raffl will be sent back to Adirondack. You don't think the Flyers would do something dumb like waiving Rosehill do you?
- PLindbergh31


If Raffl plays well, he isn't going anywhere!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
Finger surgery.
- Feanor


Same difference. He had surgery to repair the extensor tendon in his finger.. whether or not it was a wrist surgery or a finger surgery doesnt really change my point.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
raffl-G-Vinny...The next great line in Flyers history. It starts tonight.
- PhillySportsGuy


The Multiple of Four Line?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
raffl-G-Vinny...The next great line in Flyers history. It starts tonight.
- PhillySportsGuy

Apparently the drinking started this afternoon.
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