You are correct. An average male matures at 27. I said average. It takes that long for an average male to add the proper amount of muscle to his frame. Wifes Gymnastics stats, these apply to all sports as well. But the youth have flexibility, that is supposed to counter your argument.
- bixll

sure.. in normal circumstances i would agree with you

however.. in the NHL these guys arent in "normal" shape.. they are highly tuned athletes and are far more powerful then the average adult.

its more than enough to make the flexibility aspect a non issue.

and flexibility isnt going to help much when a 230lb man crushes you into the boards at 25kph

http://www.slate.com/arti...s_who_ve_ever_played.html
- AGalchenyuk27

Doesn't work on the PS3... can you do Gretzky to Bozak?

gotcha..then they dont count as part of the trade
- senstroll

sure they count

but they arent exactly helping the flyers argument of a fair deal

sure.. in normal circumstances i would agree with you

however.. in the NHL these guys arent in "normal" shape.. they are highly tuned athletes and are far more powerful then the average adult.

its more than enough to make the flexibility aspect a non issue.

and flexibility isnt going to help much when a 230lb man crushes you into the boards at 25kph
- Dozzer

It certainly will. However, your flexibility does nto make sure that your knee is out of the way.

Doesn't work on the PS3... can you do Gretzky to Bozak?
- Not_Stee

3 degrees of separation between Wayne Gretzky and Tyler Bozak

Wayne Gretzky played on the 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers with ...

Steve Smith (1984-2001), who played on the 1998-99 Calgary Flames with ...

Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who played on the 2010-11 Toronto Maple Leafs with ...

Tyler Bozak

3 degrees of separation between Wayne Gretzky and Tyler Bozak

Wayne Gretzky played on the 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers with ...

Steve Smith (1984-2001), who played on the 1998-99 Calgary Flames with ...

Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who played on the 2010-11 Toronto Maple Leafs with ...

Tyler Bozak
- AGalchenyuk27

It certainly will. However, your flexibility does nto make sure that your knee is out of the way.
- bixll

I think you're both right...agility helps some younger guys roll off hits...but a mid ice collision or a shoulder to chest/shoulder check into the boards is where you could use that extra weight/muscle what have you.

sure they count

but they arent exactly helping the flyers argument of a fair deal
- Dozzer

its not as bad as it looks...even though they suck at the moment

Carter/Richards 5g 8a
players they got 3g 9a

the schenn for JVR is looking like the dumb move to me

It certainly will. However, your flexibility does nto make sure that your knee is out of the way.
- bixll

then why all the injuries that consistently happen to young players?

i think when the guys in their prime are as in shape as they are.. their own flexibility is nearly that of a 20 year old.. which takes away the younger players advantage.

it just seems to me that young players get hurt.. and frequentley

I think you're both right...agility helps some younger guys roll off hits...but a mid ice collision or a shoulder to chest/shoulder check into the boards is where you could use that extra weight/muscle what have you.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Flexibility is one of the most overlooked portion of an athletes training. And it is not about how much you can lift, it is about how many times you can lift it.

3 degrees of separation between Wayne Gretzky and Tyler Bozak

Wayne Gretzky played on the 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers with ...

Steve Smith (1984-2001), who played on the 1998-99 Calgary Flames with ...

Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who played on the 2010-11 Toronto Maple Leafs with ...

Tyler Bozak
- AGalchenyuk27

or...
TYLER BOZAK played on the 2013-14 Toronto Maple Leafs with ...
Paul Ranger, who played on the 2005-06 Tampa Bay Lightning with ...
Darryl Sydor, who played on the 1991-92 Los Angeles Kings with ...
WAYNE GRETZKY

then why all the injuries that consistently happen to young players?

i think when the guys in their prime are as in shape as they are.. their own flexibility is nearly that of a 20 year old.. which takes away the younger players advantage.

it just seems to me that young players get hurt.. and frequentley
- Dozzer

Maybe you are just focused on that young player, because they all get hurt.

3 degrees of separation between Wayne Gretzky and Tyler Bozak

Wayne Gretzky played on the 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers with ...

Steve Smith (1984-2001), who played on the 1998-99 Calgary Flames with ...

Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who played on the 2010-11 Toronto Maple Leafs with ...

Tyler Bozak
- AGalchenyuk27

Brandon Shanahan played on the 2006 Rangers with...

Ryan Callahan, who played on the 2004 Guelph Storm with....

Drew Doughty, who played as a junior on the 2001 Senior JPII Jaguars with....

Colin Dambrauskas


Boom. I win.

Gordie Howe played on the 1966-67 Detroit Red Wings with ...

Paul Henderson, who played on the 1979-80 Atlanta Flames with ...

Kent Nilsson, who played on the 1994-95 Edmonton Oilers with ...

Jason Arnott, who played on the 2010-11 New Jersey Devils with ...

David Clarkson

its not as bad as it looks...even though they suck at the moment

Carter/Richards 5g 8a
players they got 3g 9a

the schenn for JVR is looking like the dumb move to me
- senstroll

Ok...now do last year

Maybe you are just focused on that young player, because they all get hurt.
- bixll

nah, the frequencey young players get hurt at anymore is far worse than guys in their mid twenties.. if you look at it percentage based.

sure.. we hear about guys in their prime getting hurt just as much.. but well.. they also outnumber young guys 5 or 6x over

nah, the frequencey young players get hurt at anymore is far worse than guys in their mid twenties.. if you look at it percentage based.

sure.. we hear about guys in their prime getting hurt just as much.. but well.. they also outnumber young guys 5 or 6x over
- Dozzer

Now, why doesn't Corsi have those numbers ?


Because they might be USEFULL.

Let's hope John Scott doesn't play any more games in the NHL. Shouldn't have been there in the first place.

nah, the frequencey young players get hurt at anymore is far worse than guys in their mid twenties.. if you look at it percentage based.

sure.. we hear about guys in their prime getting hurt just as much.. but well.. they also outnumber young guys 5 or 6x over
- Dozzer

Could be because they have no regard for upkeep on their bodies (compared to older people), and they generally feel untouchable.

Ok...now do last year
- Colin Dambrauskas

philly players got more g a and p

i look at it like this

when i was 20.. i was 200lbs

now i am 36 and i am 210-215 ish

not a big difference but yet.. i am a hell of a lot more durable now then i was at 20

you are still maturing at 19-20 years old.. and when a 30 year old 225lbs man hits you.. its the kid that gets hurt.. and we've seen that repeatedly over the years.

the body doesnt get tough til 23-24 years of age... plain and simple.
- Dozzer

by the time you're 50 you'll be around the 250-265 area.


F'n gravity.

He really is. I love watching him play hockey. Just to see what he does and how he controls the flow of the game at times.
- bixll

He controls the game better than anyone else, and is almost impossible to take the puck off. Fun to watch.

Now, why doesn't Corsi have those numbers ?


Because they might be USEFULL.
- bixll

Can't believe I agree with Milbury for once. But he spoke the truth. Scott is a scum and the sabres are an embarrassment to the NHL.

by the time you're 50 you'll be around the 250-265 area.


F'n gravity.
- zazzle

its not all bad