You're basing that on watching the kid start FOUR games?
You have to give consideration to the difficulty of adjusting from AHL hockey to NHL hockey for a goaltender. Then add in seeing a start one our of every 10-11 games. There was no fair platform to judge him on. A goalie like that needs several starts in a month to adjust, gain confidence and hone their play. NO young goalie is going to perform well under those circumstances.
- keaner17

No young goalie? What about Bernier when he played on the Kings the last few years? There are young goalies that play well. I didn't expect him to dominate or anything. But he was terrible. He played well agaisnt the Blackhawks and I hope he plays well this weekend.

Would you guys be interested in David booth?

Booth, Schroeder, 2nd for hamonic + bailey

Give Hamonic a partner worthy of top 4 minutes and you'll see how good he is. AMac is a 5 on a scale of 1-10. Useful in depth, overused in premium circumstance.
- keaner17

Yea he is overused. Just think he is one of the least of the issues the Islanders defense has. Namely, Strait and Carkner wouldn't play on any other teams in the league. And, every D man on the team except Visnovsky are playing way to many minutes and agaisnt competition they shouldn't be seeing as much because they are playing up

Would you guys be interested in David booth?

Booth, Schroeder, 2nd for hamonic + bailey
- dshiddy

Why do we need another forward? We are one of the best offensive teams in the East. We need a defenseman. Hamonic and Bailey for a guy that's healthy scratched? Come on dude.

No young goalie? What about Bernier when he played on the Kings the last few years? There are young goalies that play well. I didn't expect him to dominate or anything. But he was terrible. He played well agaisnt the Blackhawks and I hope he plays well this weekend.
- Isles316

Bernier played in 14 games last year. BIG difference. The Kings had given him 70 career starts as opposed to Poulin's 18. That's exactly my point. No goalie is going to develop when they play one game per month.
I'm not saying Poulin is the answer, frankly I think he's number 3 out of our prospects, but there is no way in hell anyone should be drawing conclusions on him based on 4 starts in a season. The kid has a .911 career NHL sv pctg for what it's worth, which is pretty close to Bernier...one plays on an annual lottery contender, the other on a Stanley Cup contender with the best blueline in hockey..>BIG DIFFERENCE>

Whats the purpose of all of us complaining when management did nothing major to improve this team in any area. Most of you should understand the players the Isles have, and nothing has changed...

Last years PO's were made because the team got hot for a stretch in a shortened season, in a full season I can almost think Isles would have not made the PO's.

All due respect, its only the beginning of the season so maybe things can change but don't count on Snow making any changes thru trades, or else it will be a long season.....

Capuano said if he plays well he's going to get more starts. Personally from what I saw out of Poulin last year I don't want him to play any games. He was as bad as DiPietro.
- Isles316

He played good in Chicago though so you can thro that theory out the window.

He played good in Chicago though so you can thro that theory out the window.
- Cptmjl

one game. but yes promising

Would you guys be interested in David booth?

Booth, Schroeder, 2nd for hamonic + bailey
- dshiddy

How does this trade benefit the Isles?

If you can somehow convince me, then I'll make the deal, if not go troll somewhere else with your garbage...

Whats the purpose of all of us complaining when management did nothing major to improve this team in any area. Most of you should understand the players the Isles have, and nothing has changed...

Last years PO's were made because the team got hot for a stretch in a shortened season, in a full season I can almost think Isles would have not made the PO's.
All due respect, its only the beginning of the season so maybe things can change but don't count on Snow making any changes thru trades, or else it will be a long season.....
- Ur Not Me

That comment has no basis. What you saw is how good this team can play when the backcheck and commit themselves to winning. As much as you can say they wouldn't have made the playoffs in a full season, you could also argue they'd finished with a higher seed. It's pointless to consider.

Bernier played in 14 games last year. BIG difference. The Kings had given him 70 career starts as opposed to Poulin's 18. That's exactly my point. No goalie is going to develop when they play one game per month.
I'm not saying Poulin is the answer, frankly I think he's number 3 out of our prospects, but there is no way in hell anyone should be drawing conclusions on him based on 4 starts in a season. The kid has a .911 career NHL sv pctg for what it's worth, which is pretty close to Bernier...one plays on an annual lottery contender, the other on a Stanley Cup contender with the best blueline in hockey..>BIG DIFFERENCE>
- keaner17

i dont disagree. I just dont really think like you, that Poulin isnt the answer

That comment has no basis. What you saw is how good this team can play when the backcheck and commit themselves to winning. As much as you can say they wouldn't have made the playoffs in a full season, you could also argue they'd finished with a higher seed. It's pointless to consider.
- keaner17

Yes it does... with last years lack of consistency the team will lose 10, then win 5 or whatever the team does in stretches.... Towards the end of the shortened season the team was faltering and barely got in, even tho the Isles were in a commanding position being a higher seed but fell to the 8th seed.

So with this team history, you can almost gage an idea of possibilities or perception of what might have happened in a full season.

Whats the purpose of all of us complaining when management did nothing major to improve this team in any area. Most of you should understand the players the Isles have, and nothing has changed...

Last years PO's were made because the team got hot for a stretch in a shortened season, in a full season I can almost think Isles would have not made the PO's.

All due respect, its only the beginning of the season so maybe things can change but don't count on Snow making any changes thru trades, or else it will be a long season.....
- Ur Not Me

Oh I'm not. Going to whine and b!tch about it none the less.

one game. but yes promising
- Isles316

Agreed. One of his better games IMO.

i dont disagree. I just dont really think like you, that Poulin isnt the answer
- Isles316

I don't know what Poulin is....no one does. We know he has an excellent level of physical talent, but his positioning is unsteady. That's the problem. Not all goalies that succeed in the NHL look polished from the get-go. Until he dislocated his knee, most Isles fans were WAAAY high on Pouin (I think he had a .922 sv pctg then). Some goalies have to adjust to the speed of the NHL game in order to gain better confidence in their angles etc. That only comes from in game experience. The Poulin you saw last year as opposed to one who has played say 10 out of 15 games, could be like night and day. MILES apart.
I've helped a lot of kids who transitioned from high school to college hockey and seen how much better they perform technically once they've had time to adjust to the puck speed. The difference between the AHL and NHL is a quantum leap.

i dont disagree. I just dont really think like you, that Poulin isnt the answer
- Isles316

Poulin is not that answer. that guy flops all over the place. If he stayed put and relaxed a little he might be what we are looking for. Plus with our defense in front of him he will get eaten for breakfast. We needed a back up goalie this year even if it was for one year. Hedberg is out there. Yeah he is old but if he split the time with NAbby we should be fine. I personally think Nabby has not been atrocious and that the defense who dive in front of him all the time and stand right in front him should get the brunt of everything

That comment has no basis. What you saw is how good this team can play when the backcheck and commit themselves to winning. As much as you can say they wouldn't have made the playoffs in a full season, you could also argue they'd finished with a higher seed. It's pointless to consider.
- keaner17

This I agree with. This team has the potential to be VERY good. They need some help from management IMO and more of a motivator for a coach.

Poulin is not that answer. that guy flops all over the place. If he stayed put and relaxed a little he might be what we are looking for. Plus with our defense in front of him he will get eaten for breakfast. We needed a back up goalie this year even if it was for one year. Hedberg is out there. Yeah he is old but if he split the time with NAbby we should be fine. I personally think Nabby has not been atrocious and that the defense who dive in front of him all the time and stand right in front him should get the brunt of everything
- kasperrko

No lunch or dinner? Breakfast?

How does this trade benefit the Isles?

If you can somehow convince me, then I'll make the deal, if not go troll somewhere else with your garbage...
- Ur Not Me

Booth is a great hunter.

Booth is a great hunter.
- dshiddy

Poulin is not that answer. that guy flops all over the place. If he stayed put and relaxed a little he might be what we are looking for. Plus with our defense in front of him he will get eaten for breakfast. We needed a back up goalie this year even if it was for one year. Hedberg is out there. Yeah he is old but if he split the time with NAbby we should be fine. I personally think Nabby has not been atrocious and that the defense who dive in front of him all the time and stand right in front him should get the brunt of everything
- kasperrko

Think of it this way..if you call a kid up from double A baseball and ask him to pinch hit against a Major league closer..his swing is going to look erratic and desperate. If he only see's one at bat every two weeks, he'll likely continue to look that way. Let him see severa at bats per week, he'll adjust to the speed, look more controlled and give you hope.
It's the same with Poulin or any kid goaltender. Goalies who 'flop' do it for one of two reasons. A. Their defense sucks and they're being exposed by a team dominating down low. B. They're giving up rebounds due to poor puck control.
The latter can be cured by more in game action.

Would you guys be interested in David booth?

Booth, Schroeder, 2nd for hamonic + bailey
- dshiddy

Troll.

they need better goaltending. That's a given. I think it can't hurt to play Poulin more. If he can't play, then send his a** down and call Nilsson up. Something has to give. I agree, they are wearing Nabby down to the bone. He can't play 70 games. it'd be one thing to play him 8 of 9 if he was playing real well. He's not. He's playing okay.

I know the goaltending has been the focus on this board, but my real issue with this team is the nonsense of constantly blowing leads and letting teams score goals in bunches in short periods of time or immediately after the Isles score. Yes, the goaltending has something to do with that, but there's a bigger issue. These are classic signs of letdowns, of taking the foot off the gas. This has to stop. Good teams don't take their foot off the gas when they have a lead. They use that foot to squash the throat of their opponent and finish them off. This team doesn't do that.
- Jethro09

I agree regarding Nabokov playing too many games- it's ridiculous. That said, if you were in the seats last night, you'd have seen a much smaller team get outmuscled by a lot bigger team repeatedly, in front of its own net. Repeatedly lost EVERY physical battle in front of its own net. Every one....that has to end.

Think of it this way..if you call a kid up from double A baseball and ask him to pinch hit against a Major league closer..his swing is going to look erratic and desperate. If he only see's one at bat every two weeks, he'll likely continue to look that way. Let him see severa at bats per week, he'll adjust to the speed, look more controlled and give you hope.
It's the same with Poulin or any kid goaltender. Goalies who 'flop' do it for one of two reasons. A. Their defense sucks and they're being exposed by a team dominating down low. B. They're giving up rebounds due to poor puck control.
The latter can be cured by more in game action.
- keaner17

Problem is the A portion that is the biggest problem here. Defense is just not that good. We all know that. So no matter how many games he plays he will be flopping. The kid has no composure. Trust me I want him to succeed and be amazing I just am not that high on him and to be honest the organization really is not either. They are waiting for Nilsson

Poulin is not that answer. that guy flops all over the place. If he stayed put and relaxed a little he might be what we are looking for. Plus with our defense in front of him he will get eaten for breakfast. We needed a back up goalie this year even if it was for one year. Hedberg is out there. Yeah he is old but if he split the time with NAbby we should be fine. I personally think Nabby has not been atrocious and that the defense who dive in front of him all the time and stand right in front him should get the brunt of everything
- kasperrko

I think last night was really the only poor game he's played. Nashville he could of been better too