Firing Darcy is unlikely to improve the product on the ice this year. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. Doing it 10 games into a season is awkward, and would lead to questions of why not do it last May. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. (I won't quit smoking today because I should have done it yesterday is a dumb excuse).

Leino/Myers/Grigorenko/Lack of solution at Center for 7 years alone is reason enough.
- nfph

This is the point people are kind of not getting. We should have been prepared for this season. We knew they would be bad. Darcy PURPOSELY did nothing in the offseason to immediately improve the team

IMO things are going as planned at the FNC

The issue is if they plan on rebuilding then it's fine to tank the season. However, the guy who's tried to rebuild 4 other times is still running things. The young guys on the team now will never develop correctly if there is no leadership on the ice, behind the bench, or no confidence from the ownership. It's sad when Regier and Black tell fans, bascially, that we're gonna suck this year. What kind of message is that for your team?

Think about this Craig Patrick (Asst Coach in Miracle) after 17 years is fired in 2006 and starts the cindy/ geno era

Darcy 16 years as GM, so one more year of Darcy then start the Mc David/? Era with a new gm

Mind Blown

This is the point people are kind of not getting. We should have been prepared for this season. We knew they would be bad. Darcy PURPOSELY did nothing in the offseason to immediately improve the team

IMO things are going as planned at the FNC
- sbroads24

Oh i get it, Darcy planned this because he FAILED to put a competative team on the ice given every resource. The man who failed is still in charge. That is what everyones problem is, I would assume.

Think about this Craig Patrick (Asst Coach in Miracle) after 17 years is fired in 2006 and starts the cindy/ geno era

Darcy 16 years as GM, so one more year of Darcy then start the Mc David/? Era with a new gm

Mind Blown
- hubie

I COULD of started the cindy/geno era.
suck badly enough and get the top 1 and 2 picks. monkey could of done that.

This is the point people are kind of not getting. We should have been prepared for this season. We knew they would be bad. Darcy PURPOSELY did nothing in the offseason to immediately improve the team

IMO things are going as planned at the FNC
- sbroads24

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Darcy must be hockey genius, as Ken Sawyer would say. He put an underqualified coach in place to make sure they tank, because you can't count on the players to do it all by themselves.

And we'll be worse next year w/o Van and Millsy.

Perhaps we misunderstood Terry's "3-year plan" after all.

[quote=rapperray]OK... So here are some questions.....
1) If we are rebuilding then what is Talinder doing here?
To offer a veteran mentor to the young D-man Core
2) If we are rebuilding why was Vanek not moved for draft choices or prospects?
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
3) If we are rebuilding why is Miller still here and why was he not traded for ...whatever
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
4) If we are rebuilding why is Grigorenko in the press box or on the 4th line with a couple of knuckleheads.
This is curious. He must not be earning his plying time. You can't reward a player if he is dragging ass or underperforming at practice or whenever

5) I can go on with more if you want me to....
Please do. This is fun.
quote]

Think about this Craig Patrick (Asst Coach in Miracle) after 17 years is fired in 2006 and starts the cindy/ geno era

Darcy 16 years as GM, so one more year of Darcy then start the Mc David/? Era with a new gm

Mind Blown
- hubie

This idiot has been here 16 years?

I COULD of started the cindy/geno era.
suck badly enough and get the top 1 and 2 picks. monkey could of done that.
- Jurco_28

my point was more of a darcey will be here 17 years but you point is valid. Shero has also added to the talent, where darcy biggest trade in 8 yeas has been .................................

This idiot has been here 16 years?
- rapperray

1997

[quote=rapperray]OK... So here are some questions.....
1) If we are rebuilding then what is Talinder doing here?
To offer a veteran mentor to the young D-man Core
2) If we are rebuilding why was Vanek not moved for draft choices or prospects?
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
3) If we are rebuilding why is Miller still here and why was he not traded for ...whatever
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
4) If we are rebuilding why is Grigorenko in the press box or on the 4th line with a couple of knuckleheads.
This is curious. He must not be earning his plying time. You can't reward a player if he is dragging ass or underperforming at practice or whenever

5) I can go on with more if you want me to....
Please do. This is fun.
quote]
- RynoBull

am I drunk cause im agreeing with you?

[quote=rapperray]OK... So here are some questions.....
1) If we are rebuilding then what is Talinder doing here?
To offer a veteran mentor to the young D-man Core
2) If we are rebuilding why was Vanek not moved for draft choices or prospects?
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
3) If we are rebuilding why is Miller still here and why was he not traded for ...whatever
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
4) If we are rebuilding why is Grigorenko in the press box or on the 4th line with a couple of knuckleheads.
This is curious. He must not be earning his plying time. You can't reward a player if he is dragging ass or underperforming at practice or whenever

5) I can go on with more if you want me to....
Please do. This is fun.
quote]
- RynoBull

So Ryno using YOUR own statement regarding Grigorenko.... Now tell me what has Darcy done to merit being employed here? He has not EARNED this job..... He has UNDERPERFORMED for 16 years yet he still is here. So now tell me how that is.......

[quote=rapperray]OK... So here are some questions.....
1) If we are rebuilding then what is Talinder doing here?
To offer a veteran mentor to the young D-man Core
2) If we are rebuilding why was Vanek not moved for draft choices or prospects?
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
3) If we are rebuilding why is Miller still here and why was he not traded for ...whatever
He will, at the trade deadline. You can't fault Darcy for trying to maximize his return on a premium product. Supply and Demand
4) If we are rebuilding why is Grigorenko in the press box or on the 4th line with a couple of knuckleheads.
This is curious. He must not be earning his plying time. You can't reward a player if he is dragging ass or underperforming at practice or whenever

5) I can go on with more if you want me to....
Please do. This is fun.
quote]
- RynoBull

I disagree with your Miller reply.... not many teams are looking for goalies at the trade deadline. esp ones who are already contending for a playoff spot

am I drunk cause im agreeing with you?
- hubie

It was bound happen sooner or later. "we were due"

Oh i get it, Darcy planned this because he FAILED to put a competative team on the ice given every resource. The man who failed is still in charge. That is what everyones problem is, I would assume.
- ImThatGuy

We were competitive recently. He realized that he failed to put a cup team together based on our lack of elite talent. Best way to get elite talent is that the top of the draft... This is the plan

I disagree with your Miller reply.... not many teams are looking for goalies at the trade deadline. esp ones who are already contending for a playoff spot
- GzaGenius36

this is true, but he will get something of value for him.

1997
- hubie

u ever wonder how the franchises could be different if the sabres just drafted one or two spots higher in the 83 draft. two hall of famers were taken before barasso.

It was bound happen sooner or later. "we were due"
- RynoBull

I guess the percentages were there it was bound to happen.

u ever wonder how the franchises could be different if the sabres just drafted one or two spots higher in the 83 draft. two hall of famers were taken before barasso.
- Jurco_28

but 1 or 2 lower and you would have andrew mcbain..... we ended up with lafontaine anyways. But Id do just about anything to have the opportunity to get stevie y

So Ryno using YOUR own statement regarding Grigorenko.... Now tell me what has Darcy done to merit being employed here? He has not EARNED this job..... He has UNDERPERFORMED for 16 years yet he still is here. So now tell me how that is.......
- rapperray

Oh, I think he should be gone. I just think your top three are actually not the worst things he's done.

He should have been gone after letting the entire team go to Arbitration. And then picking the wrong ones to sign long term...Who gets it that wrong twice?

u ever wonder how the franchises could be different if the sabres just drafted one or two spots higher in the 83 draft. two hall of famers were taken before barasso.
- Jurco_28

well what if the wings took barrasso (who was awsome, and I know the guy who scouted him for that draft)

I guess the percentages were there it was bound to happen.
- hubie

I still hate Booing.

We were competitive recently. He realized that he failed to put a cup team together based on our lack of elite talent. Best way to get elite talent is that the top of the draft... This is the plan
- sbroads24

SO if he failed, and has failed before, why is he still here. If this were a different GM I would be all for this, but I do not trust Darcy. To be honest i could give a flying *** what the on ice product is this season, just as long as he is not here.

I still hate Booing.
- RynoBull

The worst thing in sports...... towards your own team.,..... im 50/50 on like booing chara or lucic ( I wont do it but dont hate that)

The worst thing in sports...... towards your own team.,..... im 50/50 on like booing chara or lucic ( I wont do it but dont hate that)
- hubie

Booing the Refs or the other teams d-bag players I'm all for. I'm all in on hecklingteh other teams goalies. Its so hard to getthat chant going. Terrible fans in the 100 level.