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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
I have no clue about that guys game
- Just5

Obvs
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
The best teams, dont have dinosaurs patrolling the blue line anymore.

Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, etc.

- Just5



Are they the only best teams in the League right now? Lots of teams have been successful with different kinds of lineups. Are you saying that you can't be a good team if you have a defenseman like Grossmann in the lineup?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Laughton is Too Advanced for OHL
- bmeltzer

Still not as impressive as Mantha that kids point totals are of the freaking charts... Different league still CHL though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
enjoy the funeral pyre of your shot cedibility on display once again...
- isaiah520



Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
Are they the only best teams in the League right now? Lots of teams have been successful with different kinds of lineups. Are you saying that you can't be a good team if you have a defenseman like Grossmann in the lineup?
- MJL


You can get by with one on the 3rd pairing. Maybe 2nd pairing like a W. Mitchell or a Mcquaid if their good enough. But not 2 anymore
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
The best teams, dont have dinosaurs patrolling the blue line anymore.

Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, etc.

- Just5


Roszival and Brookbank aren't exactly the youngest guys in the league (sharing Chicago's 3rd D pair spot), and Leopold isn't getting much younger out in St. Louis after being oft-injured/healthy scratched the last 4 years.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 1:42 PM ET
Roszival and Brookbank aren't exactly the youngest guys in the league (sharing Chicago's 3rd D pair spot), and Leopold isn't getting much younger out in St. Louis after being oft-injured/healthy scratched the last 4 years.
- jmatchett383


I should have clarified....speed and puck moving ability included. Their dinosaurs bc of the antiquated style of play they bring, not their age.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:43 PM ET
You can get by with one on the 3rd pairing. Maybe 2nd pairing like a W. Mitchell or a Mcquaid. But not 2 anymore
- Just5



Good teams have players like that playing top minutes in key situations. One of the reason why some feel that LA didn't go as far last year was the loss of Willie Mitchell. Not exactly a puck moving fleet skater on the back end.

Look, the Flyers definitely need to tweak their mix on defense. Instead of having 3 stay at home defenseman, they should only have 2. And the other 4 need to be mobile puck movers who are hopefully also solid defensively. But stating that player like Grossmann and Schenn are dinosaurs in todays game, simply isn't accurate in my opinion.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 1:43 PM ET

- MJL

http://www.montereyherald...last-seasons-late-success
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
http://www.montereyherald...last-seasons-late-success

- isaiah520



That article stated exactly what I said. They added Hertl and Kennedy!

Big retool!

The Flyers are changing how they play under Berube versus Laviolette. Are they re-tooling also!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 1:49 PM ET
I counted 5 or 6 players that have a higher PPG pace than Laughton in the OHL. I guess he's just a top player right? Not sure if he's too good for the league.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:58 PM ET
Anyone know how Sean Monahan is doing for his Junior team. I believe he plays for the Ottawa 67's.
- PLindbergh31


Currently with the Flames, still a chance he's sent back. Possible chance the 67's trade him if sent back.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
I counted 5 or 6 players that have a higher PPG pace than Laughton in the OHL. I guess he's just a top player right? Not sure if he's too good for the league.
- Just5


It doesn't matter to me if there are other players who are scoring at a faster pace. When you look at who he is as a player -- his total game and the point he's gotten to offensively at that level from where he was even early last season -- he belongs in a tougher league right now; namely the AHL.



isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:00 PM ET
That article stated exactly what I said. They added Hertl and Kennedy!

Big retool!

The Flyers are changing how they play under Berube versus Laviolette. Are they re-tooling also!

- MJL

you only read what you wanted to read...they made an org shift w/o firing their coach, moving slow guys out and letting their kids take the lead and share it w/ war horses thornton and marleau. they also shifted burns to forward as part their strategy.

i was wrong about wilson...thought he was stuck in a certain MO, but he shifted and the results are admirable. would that the flyers have such a shift...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
I counted 5 or 6 players that have a higher PPG pace than Laughton in the OHL. I guess he's just a top player right? Not sure if he's too good for the league.
- Just5

There are 5 players averaging more than two pts a game including Laughton.

It's not about whether he's too good for the league or just a top player but whether his development would be better served playing in the OHL or the AHL. Bill's opinion, and I think many of us share it, is that his development would be better served making the jump to the AHL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 2:04 PM ET
you only read what you wanted to read...they made an org shift w/o firing their coach, moving slow guys out and letting their kids take the lead and share it w/ war horses thornton and marleau. they also shifted burns to forward as part their strategy.

i was wrong about wilson...thought he was stuck in a certain MO, but he shifted and the results are admirable. would that the flyers have such a shift...

- isaiah520



I'm not going to get into a semantics argument with you. I don't consider adding a couple of role players and changing a style of play a retooling. Maybe you do, and that's fine. The top players in San Jose are the same as it has been for a number of years. The key players are exactly the same.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:07 PM ET
Hope_Smoke RT @Hope_Smoke: Dreger on TSN Radio "I know there has been some dialogue between Edmonton and Anaheim regarding Jonas Hiller"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
Hope_Smoke RT @Hope_Smoke: Dreger on TSN Radio "I know there has been some dialogue between Edmonton and Anaheim regarding Jonas Hiller"
- isaiah520


Surprising, since Fasth has been pretty bad this year and Hiller's been relatively good. I'd guess Gibson's the starter of the future, but not quite ready yet.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
I'm not going to get into a semantics argument with you. I don't consider adding a couple of role players and changing a style of play a retooling. Maybe you do, and that's fine. The top players in San Jose are the same as it has been for a number of years. The key players are exactly the same.
- MJL

yea, nieto, burns, hertl and demers are doing the same stuff they were 2yrs ago...and they're plying the same way...move along...nothing to see here...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
you only read what you wanted to read...they made an org shift w/o firing their coach, moving slow guys out and letting their kids take the lead and share it w/ war horses thornton and marleau. they also shifted burns to forward as part their strategy.

i was wrong about wilson...thought he was stuck in a certain MO, but he shifted and the results are admirable. would that the flyers have such a shift...

- isaiah520


The Flyers are prob figuring out right now how to shift Laughton ++ to the Sabres for Vanek to cure their woes.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
Surprising, since Fasth has been pretty bad this year and Hiller's been relatively good. I'd guess Gibson's the starter of the future, but not quite ready yet.
- jmatchett383

Gibson is held in very high esteem there...depends on how desperate MacT is...sounds like they have an itchy trigger though.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
Surprising, since Fasth has been pretty bad this year and Hiller's been relatively good. I'd guess Gibson's the starter of the future, but not quite ready yet.
- jmatchett383


and Andersen played last night and won.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
The Flyers are prob figuring out right now how to shift Laughton ++ to the Sabres for Vanek to cure their woes.
- Just5

that would be unwise, imo. they are in no position to trade youth for a vet.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
that would be unwise, imo. they are in no position to trade youth for a vet.
- isaiah520

But we're right there...
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
plying ..
- isaiah520

just add the "a" im begging you!
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