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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Petes getting stupid benching Larsson, kids going to get mad and when the time comes wouldn't be surprised if he leaves
- njdevil35

I would leave if I were him
Twist
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 04.10.2013

Oct 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
This game is just what the Rags need to get back on track.



""Fayne in, Larsson out. Why? "We're going with the 20 best guys to win a hockey game," Peter DeBoer said. "It's as simple as that.""
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Oct 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
I would leave if I were him
- shvingter88


If his RFA deal is only 1 year, then I expect that to be why. He'll play his time that he has to, but I doubt unless the treatment changes that he'll want to stay past his obligations. I realize he's very young yet & has a ways to go, but the best way to learn is out on the ice playing, not on the bench.
bigjersey3
New Jersey Devils
Location: Jackson, NJ
Joined: 09.30.2013

Oct 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
This game is just what the Rags need to get back on track.



""Fayne in, Larsson out. Why? "We're going with the 20 best guys to win a hockey game," Peter DeBoer said. "It's as simple as that.""

- Twist


Well that totally makes sense....thanks for clarifying that Pete....
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 19 @ 4:34 PM ET
its the nhl cover curse


must find ways to win
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Oct 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
This game is just what the Rags need to get back on track.



""Fayne in, Larsson out. Why? "We're going with the 20 best guys to win a hockey game," Peter DeBoer said. "It's as simple as that.""

- Twist


Not sure he knows who his best 20 players are...
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Oct 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
Building blocks: Forwards Adam Henrique (23), Andrei Loktionov (23), Jacob Josefson (22) and Mattias Tedenby (23); defenseman Adam Larsson (20)
On the way: Defensemen Jon Merrill (21), Steven Santini (18), Eric Gelinas (22), Damon Severson (19)
Movable parts: Forward Jaromir Jagr; defenseman Marek Zidlicky
Missing pieces: Everything but a goalie. Literally. Everything.
Stumbling block: The obstinance of GM Lou Lamoriello, who continues to put his faith into high-mileage 30-plus players instead of accepting the inevitable.
Timeline: Two years after reaching the Stanley Cup Final, the Devils are a franchise in steep decline. And while they may not yet embrace the concept of a rebuild, they won’t have a choice for much longer. Finding a legitimate replacement for Martin Brodeur in Cory Schneider was a big step, but beyond that, this is a wasteland. There’s little in the way of young talent at the NHL level and the prospect pool is inarguably one of the weakest in hockey, lacking true, high-end upside and utterly bereft of scoring potential. If there is a destination called Hope, the farthest place from it is New Jersey.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:22 PM ET
Building blocks: Forwards Adam Henrique (23), Andrei Loktionov (23), Jacob Josefson (22) and Mattias Tedenby (23); defenseman Adam Larsson (20)
On the way: Defensemen Jon Merrill (21), Steven Santini (18), Eric Gelinas (22), Damon Severson (19)
Movable parts: Forward Jaromir Jagr; defenseman Marek Zidlicky
Missing pieces: Everything but a goalie. Literally. Everything.
Stumbling block: The obstinance of GM Lou Lamoriello, who continues to put his faith into high-mileage 30-plus players instead of accepting the inevitable.
Timeline: Two years after reaching the Stanley Cup Final, the Devils are a franchise in steep decline. And while they may not yet embrace the concept of a rebuild, they won’t have a choice for much longer. Finding a legitimate replacement for Martin Brodeur in Cory Schneider was a big step, but beyond that, this is a wasteland. There’s little in the way of young talent at the NHL level and the prospect pool is inarguably one of the weakest in hockey, lacking true, high-end upside and utterly bereft of scoring potential. If there is a destination called Hope, the farthest place from it is New Jersey.

- Jurco_28


Coming from a Detroit fan?
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Oct 19 @ 5:36 PM ET
Coming from a Detroit fan?
- bobert836

i didnt write it.
http://nhl.si.com/2013/10...t-progress/?sct=nhl_t2_a4
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:39 PM ET
This game is just what the Rags need to get back on track.



""Fayne in, Larsson out. Why? "We're going with the 20 best guys to win a hockey game," Peter DeBoer said. "It's as simple as that.""

- Twist

Anyone want to rent a barn and challenge Pete to a fight ?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
Just found out john madden has a house 30 minutes from mine and he brought the cup there one year.

Mind blown.

- shvingter88

That is awesome man as much as I always wanted to be that superstar forward when I played I always said If I had to compare my game to anyone it would be John Madden hell of a player who never got enough credit for what he did. One of my fav's!
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:44 PM ET
i didnt write it.
http://nhl.si.com/2013/10...t-progress/?sct=nhl_t2_a4

- Jurco_28


Ya, Sports Illustrated really has a fantastic grasp on hockey
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Oct 19 @ 5:45 PM ET
Ya, Sports Illustrated really has a fantastic grasp on hockey
- bobert836

eh i thought the devils breakdown was pretty accurate.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Oct 19 @ 5:48 PM ET
its the nhl cover curse


must find ways to win

- dmarsden2988


Brodie's started it...
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Building blocks: Forwards Adam Henrique (23), Andrei Loktionov (23), Jacob Josefson (22) and Mattias Tedenby (23); defenseman Adam Larsson (20)
On the way: Defensemen Jon Merrill (21), Steven Santini (18), Eric Gelinas (22), Damon Severson (19)
Movable parts: Forward Jaromir Jagr; defenseman Marek Zidlicky
Missing pieces: Everything but a goalie. Literally. Everything.
Stumbling block: The obstinance of GM Lou Lamoriello, who continues to put his faith into high-mileage 30-plus players instead of accepting the inevitable.
Timeline: Two years after reaching the Stanley Cup Final, the Devils are a franchise in steep decline. And while they may not yet embrace the concept of a rebuild, they won’t have a choice for much longer. Finding a legitimate replacement for Martin Brodeur in Cory Schneider was a big step, but beyond that, this is a wasteland. There’s little in the way of young talent at the NHL level and the prospect pool is inarguably one of the weakest in hockey, lacking true, high-end upside and utterly bereft of scoring potential. If there is a destination called Hope, the farthest place from it is New Jersey.

- Jurco_28



I agree with the exception that Tedenby, Lokti, and Josefson shouldn't be listed as building blocks, but rather movable parts. They've done nothing to demostrate ( albeit with limited total ice time) that they should be considered keepers. Personally I think they should be moved in a package for another FW. I'd list Boucher, Pietila, Coleman, Kujawinski, Scarlett, and Helgeson as additional "building blocks", however the only ones I see as keepers would be Boucher (until we know what exactly we have with the kid), Merrill, and Gelinas.

EDIT: Even Henrique should considered expendable at this point. Although I think his production will go up if A) he's played at center & B) he gets decent linemates. But, he may be the only one outside of Merrill & Gelinas that could fetch a decent return.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Ya, Sports Illustrated really has a fantastic grasp on hockey
- bobert836

do you disagree with it?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
do you disagree with it?
- rangerdanger94

Jerk
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
eh i thought the devils breakdown was pretty accurate.
- Jurco_28


Except the Devils aren't rebuilding
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
Building blocks: Forwards Adam Henrique (23), Andrei Loktionov (23), Jacob Josefson (22) and Mattias Tedenby (23); defenseman Adam Larsson (20)
On the way: Defensemen Jon Merrill (21), Steven Santini (18), Eric Gelinas (22), Damon Severson (19)

- Jurco_28


Anyone else notice Larsson's age compared to two other guys we assume are surefire all-stars yet get the benefit of the doubt because they're not Swedish ?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
Except the Devils aren't rebuilding
- bobert836

it didn't say they were
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:58 PM ET
Anyone else notice Larsson's age compared to two other guys we assume are surefire all-stars yet get the benefit of the doubt because they're not Swedish ?

- FLdevilsFAN

sorry to break it to you man but larsson is a bust
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:03 PM ET
sorry to break it to you man but larsson is a bust
- rangerdanger94

You're blogger been to embarrassed to show up on a regular basis ? jk I actually like Jan
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:06 PM ET
it didn't say they were
- rangerdanger94


The article was about how rebuilding teams are doing
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 19 @ 6:19 PM ET
That is awesome man as much as I always wanted to be that superstar forward when I played I always said If I had to compare my game to anyone it would be John Madden hell of a player who never got enough credit for what he did. One of my fav's!
- blizzzard

I'm like ogie oglethorpe
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:20 PM ET
I'm like ogie oglethorpe
- shvingter88

Haha so you can't really play at all ?
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