There is no way the Oilers (or any team) will trade a first overall for a backup goalie.

Leaf fans, is Reimer worth more than Bernier? If not, then why the hell would anyone pay more for Reimer than what the Leafs paid for Bernier.
- Al Hacker

timing....circumstances

1. Anderson is Elite and if he isn't then he is pretty damn close to it. The guy outright steals games like its nobody's business and makes a habit out of it. Has done it past two seasons as well. No question about it. Unless you only consider Stanley Cup winning goalies elite?? But that would mean Crawford and Niemi are Elite and Lundqvist isn't??
- BodyCheckRadio

-Career wise his s% is .915...not Elite
-Only once has he even flirted with 40 wins, and 40 wins consistently gets y ou mentioned in Elite status
-His GAA in 10-11 and 12-13 were damn good, bordering Elitem other than those years he has been average at best.

Good goalie, sure. Elite. No.

When it actually happens I will agree with you.

Until then you are just talking out of your ass like a troll.
- OilHorse

i would they rather stay put and lose all year... but at some point they need to shift the balance of the team makeup.

Lets be honest here. The Sens are not trading Lehner. So Anderson is the only guy they would consider trading. They are on a budget so they are not taking back any huge salary's. Anderson is a hell of a goalie but also has injury history and concerns. That lowers his value. If anything Anderson would go for a something like Smid and a mid-pick. My opinion of course.
- Iggysbff

I just dont think Smid + mid-pick would be near enough. This guy is a bona-fide starter and a game changer.

Im not just saying this directed to you, rather I just really want to know what EDM thinks is fair value to give up for someone that will actually help them win. Im not talking about just Anderson, rather any goalie that can get the job done and turn L's to W's. Everyone knows EDM has some high end talent; I just dont see anyone in a rush to help them for EDMs spare parts.

At this juncture in the season and pretty much for this entire season, I honestly dont see anything less than Eberle/Yakupov getting Anderson out of Ottawa. You can say its too much to pay all you want Oil fans, but to me there is no price you can put on winning...true starters and great goalies win games for there teams.

-Career wise his s% is .915...not Elite
-Only once has he even flirted with 40 wins, and 40 wins consistently gets y ou mentioned in Elite status
-His GAA in 10-11 and 12-13 were damn good, bordering Elitem other than those years he has been average at best.

Good goalie, sure. Elite. No.
- OilHorse

You realize that Ottawa really only has an average team at best. He outright wins them games. He is a late bloomer so save percentage from his earlier seasons has to be dismissed. Look at his numbers from the last 3 seasons - ridiculous. And he hasn't fallen off since then.

I really dont think you know what you are talking about. Ask most fans of Eastern teams who have seen this guy play, I think they will all disagree with you.

The guy is a beast. You guys clearly aren't serious about winning cuz you only ever wanna give up crap for guys who can help you win or you undervalue players because you dont want to be bold and make a move. I find it comical actually.

I just dont think Smid + mid-pick would be near enough. This guy is a bona-fide starter and a game changer.

Im not just saying this directed to you, rather I just really want to know what EDM thinks is fair value to give up for someone that will actually help them win. Im not talking about just Anderson, rather any goalie that can get the job done and turn L's to W's. Everyone knows EDM has some high end talent; I just dont see anyone in a rush to help them for EDMs spare parts.

At this juncture in the season and pretty much for this entire season, I honestly dont see anything less than Eberle/Yakupov getting Anderson out of Ottawa. You can say its too much to pay all you want Oil fans, but to me there is no price you can put on winning...true starters and great goalies win games for there teams.
- BodyCheckRadio

Sooner or later Lehner will be your starter. And I cant see the Sens paying Anderson as a starter and having him on the bench for 2/3 of the games.

i would they rather stay put and lose all year... but at some point they need to shift the balance of the team makeup.
- derm10

They did. The bottom 6 is much better this year. The defence is better also. Goaltending has been the Achilles heel to start the season, but career wise Dubnyk has shown he can do it. This team needs to gel, and while I wish it had already happened it is forming.

I hope it does not ruin the season, but to come back from this is not insurmountable...yet

Sooner or later Lehner will be your starter. And I cant see the Sens paying Anderson as a starter and having him on the bench for 2/3 of the games.
- Iggysbff

He wont start steadily til next season I would say though. Unless Andy is hurt, somehow falls off the track performance wise, I just dont see Ottawa trading away goaltending until they are 100% confident Lehner can take the reigns full time.

Sooner or later Lehner will be your starter. And I cant see the Sens paying Anderson as a starter and having him on the bench for 2/3 of the games.
- Iggysbff

does edmnton have time to wait for that day... the thing is the oilers are on their schedule and the rest of the team are on their own... if the oilers want them to make a move on their timeline they are gunna have to overpay...... if u don;t wanna overpay for a goalie.. stay pat and ride it out untill one of these option become more realistic .

They did. The bottom 6 is much better this year. The defence is better also. Goaltending has been the Achilles heel to start the season, but career wise Dubnyk has shown he can do it. This team needs to gel, and while I wish it had already happened it is forming.

I hope it does not ruin the season, but to come back from this is not insurmountable...yet
- OilHorse

if u think it is only goaltending u are only fooling urself.... yes the defense got better but is still weak.... yes the bottom 6 got better.. but the oilers are still dragging around dead weight in hemsky and smyth.

Impress my friends with wiki facts?

Wiki has nothing to do with the conversation. It's a source, nothing more nothing less. So are you going to answer my question regarding a better source or continue to talk poop?

I'm actually impressed that a Flames fan (with a cat avatar) can actually navigate the internet.
- bloatedmosquito

Well, not without help from my moma.

You're right, I concede. I can now go tell tell my froends, family and random people on the street. I can say that that some brilliant member of the Menza society blessed us here on HB with some astounding and profound knowledge that, yes, Darren Dreger and Dave Nonis are indeed related and we should all care because it REALLY matters. Thank you mosquito.

Unlike you, panty stretcher, this tid bit of info really doesn't matter to me. Now, do I need to explain some of my words or can you look up their meaning on wikipedia?

You realize that Ottawa really only has an average team at best. He outright wins them games. He is a late bloomer so save percentage from his earlier seasons has to be dismissed. Look at his numbers from the last 3 seasons - ridiculous. And he hasn't fallen off since then.

I really dont think you know what you are talking about. Ask most fans of Eastern teams who have seen this guy play, I think they will all disagree with you.

The guy is a beast. You guys clearly aren't serious about winning cuz you only ever wanna give up crap for guys who can help you win. I find it comical actually.
- BodyCheckRadio

So with Edm having an even weaker team than the Sens over the last 4 years does that make Duby even better? Cause it seems that, the way you are presenting this, that you will not agree with that statement even though it fits the mold of what you say Anderson has done.

I looked at His stat line in Ott. One year he does well, then he plays average the next. Elite goalies dont do that year in year out.

So the Oils are not serious about winning because Anderson is "Elite"...fack ahff

if u think it is only goaltending u are only fooling urself.... yes the defense got better but is still weak.... yes the bottom 6 got better.. but the oilers are still dragging around dead weight in hemsky and smyth.
- derm10

I surmise that with stronger goaltending theOil do not lose the Leafs game after scoring 5 goals. Nor do they relinquish the Jets game to start the season by losing a lead. Really, only the Vancouver game was a blow out even considering the score of the Mtl and Wash games. The Goaltending improves and then this team is looking at 3-4 wins instead of just 1. This is a difference of having 8-10 points instead of 3.

Hemsky is a team leader in points. You just have such a hate on for him that it is unhealthy.

if u think it is only goaltending u are only fooling urself.... yes the defense got better but is still weak.... yes the bottom 6 got better.. but the oilers are still dragging around dead weight in hemsky and smyth.
- derm10

3 things killing us right now:

1. Bad goaltending
2. poopty PK
3. poopty PP

I'm not sure why the coach's have messed around with what was a top 5 pp the past 2 years. And our PK blows. It's on the coaching staff.

Duby I think is coming around.

He's the first one on the ice, last one off it, leaves the rink way later than everyone else, and wants the puck all the time. How someone can read "Lazy" into that is beyond me.
- Matt_Henderson

Ill likely get blasted for this as well but I don't think it would be a question of lazy, just attitude. But I agree things can be lost in translation.

Well, not without help from my moma.

You're right, I concede. I can now go tell tell my froends, family and random people on the street. I can say that that some brilliant member of the Menza society blessed us here on HB with some astounding and profound knowledge that, yes, Darren Dreger and Dave Nonis are indeed related and we should all care because it REALLY matters. Thank you mosquito.

Unlike you, panty stretcher, this tid bit of info really doesn't matter to me. Now, do I need to explain some of my words or can you look up their meaning on wikipedia?
- TandA4Flames

How many chromosomes where you born with? Based on your answers I'm guessing 28.

Just in case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome

He wont start steadily til next season I would say though. Unless Andy is hurt, somehow falls off the track performance wise, I just dont see Ottawa trading away goaltending until they are 100% confident Lehner can take the reigns full time.
- BodyCheckRadio

I don't see them trading away either one right now either. So lets all move on.

Ill likely get blasted for this as well but I don't think it would be a question of lazy, just attitude. But I agree things can be lost in translation.
- TandA4Flames

Like any kid or teenager he will question why he is doing it until he starts to see results. I think he's trying....he's just unsure of what is expected sometimes and its confusing him. Hell...some of Eakins poop is confusing me!

3 things killing us right now:

1. Bad goaltending
2. poopty PK
3. poopty PP

I'm not sure why the coach's have messed around with what was a top 5 pp the past 2 years. And our PK blows. It's on the coaching staff.

Duby I think is coming around.
- Iggysbff

hahhaha good call.. blame it all on the coaching staff......duby played well and the oiler still lost to islanders. ??? what gives?

How many chromosomes where you born with? Based on your answers I'm guessing 28.

Just in case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome
- bloatedmosquito

Ooooh. More wikipedia info. Your researching efforts are truly awe inspiring. Get over it. You took my wikipedia questoning really personally. You clearly are just a person with a confidence issue and should just focus on healthy debate instead of fighting. But fighting is obviously what you like to do. But your pretty bad at it.

I just dont think Smid + mid-pick would be near enough. This guy is a bona-fide starter and a game changer.

Im not just saying this directed to you, rather I just really want to know what EDM thinks is fair value to give up for someone that will actually help them win. Im not talking about just Anderson, rather any goalie that can get the job done and turn L's to W's. Everyone knows EDM has some high end talent; I just dont see anyone in a rush to help them for EDMs spare parts.

At this juncture in the season and pretty much for this entire season, I honestly dont see anything less than Eberle/Yakupov getting Anderson out of Ottawa. You can say its too much to pay all you want Oil fans, but to me there is no price you can put on winning...true starters and great goalies win games for there teams.
- BodyCheckRadio

moving on...

Ooooh. More wikipedia info. Your researching efforts are truly awe inspiring. Get over it. You took my wikipedia questoning really personally. You clearly are just a person with a confidence issue and should just focus on healthy debate instead of fighting. But fighting is obviously what you like to do. But your pretty bad at it.
- TandA4Flames

*you're

...Oh and try not to be so easily agitated. Especially by some random stranger online.

hahhaha good call.. blame it all on the coaching staff......duby played well and the oiler still lost to islanders. ??? what gives?
- derm10

You don't agree that having the leagues worst PK and going from top 3 pp to 19th has anything to do with it?

Like any kid or teenager he will question why he is doing it until he starts to see results. I think he's trying....he's just unsure of what is expected sometimes and its confusing him. Hell...some of Eakins poop is confusing me!
- Iggysbff

Yea fair enough. 2 things though that I disagree with Oiler fans on; 1 Dubey is not a good enough goalie. Not yet at least. He lacks the ability to make the big save when needed to steal momentum or retain it. His #s have been decent but he lacks game chaging ability.

2. Yakupov may have been the wrong pick. You guys have too many similar small players. Its tough when you have the pressure to take the consensus best player each year. I know it sounds lime tdolling but I mean that sincerly.

Do you have more accurate information on the family connections between Nonis and Dreger? We are talking about Nonis and Dreger not the accuracy of Wikipedia.

Provide me with a better source or STFU.
- bloatedmosquito