OilHorse
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It's in here somewhere...
http://masterofsopranos.w...e-explanation-of-the-end/ - laughs2907
This?
“If you look at the final episode really carefully, it’s all there.”* These are David Chase’s words regarding the finale of the Sopranos.
I read through a few of these "final scene interpretations", I didn't on this one you just linked so maybe it has a new spin.
What most of them talk about is the fact that we see this guy "eyeing" Tony and we watch that guy get up and go to the washroom. Odd scenes, out of place. As is Meadow and her trouble with parking.
Thing is that we also see a handful of other tables, the cooks and a small group hanging around the jukebox. Some within Tony's viewpoint, some not.
I have read about how the black at the end is Tony's final view as is set up with the few times that people have entered the restaurant. This also works along the line where Tony makes a comment where death is just a blackness.
I get it. To me, without proof the provocative ending is just that. Leaves us with a WtF feeling. My opinion is that Meadow arrives, the family is together that is TheEnd.
Unless Chase comes out and says Tony was shot in the head, and, as I said I have not had time to go through the whole breakdown of the scene, so I read there was a fairly rare interview from 08 where Chase made some comments. I don't think that Chase ever said anything so definitive.
Personally I think Chase played it safe. Tony was a beloved character. I think he left the ending in such a way to allow open interpretation, so as not to fully close the Tony Soprano storyline.
Either ending is fine to me. Tony was a violent criminal who potentially died by the sword he lived by, a fitting end, while at the same time he potentially get reunited with his family in a safe, happy atmosphere and lives happily.
Awesome show with well developed characters.
Now for me to see the end of Breaking Bad and Dexter. |
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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Hey guys, did you hear?
If Morgan Rielly was playing on our team, he wouldn't have an on-ice corsi of -13.5 and he'd be leading our dcore.
If we had drafted Ryan Murray, he wouldn't have 16 minutes of ice time a game and instead would be a stalwart rearguard that fixed our PK.
If we had drafted Galchenyuk, he wouldn't have middle of the road QoC and high OffZoneStart and instead would be our top shutdown centre and still score over a ppg.
We made a BIG mistake drafting Yakupov guys. - Morris
Taylor Hall: Injury prone horse face
Nuge: Skinny injury prone girl
Yak: russian floater
The Oilers picked the wrong guy every year...every single one.
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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Need to sdtay away from the Ek threads. Way too much stupid coming from people in there |
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Lahey
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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This?
I read through a few of these "final scene interpretations", I didn't on this one you just linked so maybe it has a new spin.
What most of them talk about is the fact that we see this guy "eyeing" Tony and we watch that guy get up and go to the washroom. Odd scenes, out of place. As is Meadow and her trouble with parking.
Thing is that we also see a handful of other tables, the cooks and a small group hanging around the jukebox. Some within Tony's viewpoint, some not.
I have read about how the black at the end is Tony's final view as is set up with the few times that people have entered the restaurant. This also works along the line where Tony makes a comment where death is just a blackness.
I get it. To me, without proof the provocative ending is just that. Leaves us with a WtF feeling. My opinion is that Meadow arrives, the family is together that is TheEnd.
Unless Chase comes out and says Tony was shot in the head, and, as I said I have not had time to go through the whole breakdown of the scene, so I read there was a fairly rare interview from 08 where Chase made some comments. I don't think that Chase ever said anything so definitive.
Personally I think Chase played it safe. Tony was a beloved character. I think he left the ending in such a way to allow open interpretation, so as not to fully close the Tony Soprano storyline.
Either ending is fine to me. Tony was a violent criminal who potentially died by the sword he lived by, a fitting end, while at the same time he potentially get reunited with his family in a safe, happy atmosphere and lives happily.
Awesome show with well developed characters.
Now for me to see the end of Breaking Bad and Dexter. - OilHorse
How the fack did you guys get back to this? |
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ChetManly
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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Taylor Hall: Injury prone horse face
Nuge: Skinny injury prone girl
Yak: russian floater
The Oilers picked the wrong guy every year...every single one. - OilHorse
we are terrible! |
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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How the fack did you guys get back to this? - Lahey
Did it ever really leave?
Why would you be surprised?
These are my biggest questions to you.
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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we are terrible! - ChetManly
Best to just walk away right now. SEnd a petition to Katz to fold the team, it is the right thing to do.
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ChetManly
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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Best to just walk away right now. SEnd a petition to Katz to fold the team, it is the right thing to do. - OilHorse
I'll donate my Eberle jersey to goodwill. It will never be a collector's item. I guess I'll just start cheering for Calgary or Toronto. |
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laughs2907
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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This?
I read through a few of these "final scene interpretations", I didn't on this one you just linked so maybe it has a new spin.
What most of them talk about is the fact that we see this guy "eyeing" Tony and we watch that guy get up and go to the washroom. Odd scenes, out of place. As is Meadow and her trouble with parking.
Thing is that we also see a handful of other tables, the cooks and a small group hanging around the jukebox. Some within Tony's viewpoint, some not.
I have read about how the black at the end is Tony's final view as is set up with the few times that people have entered the restaurant. This also works along the line where Tony makes a comment where death is just a blackness.
I get it. To me, without proof the provocative ending is just that. Leaves us with a WtF feeling. My opinion is that Meadow arrives, the family is together that is TheEnd.
Unless Chase comes out and says Tony was shot in the head, and, as I said I have not had time to go through the whole breakdown of the scene, so I read there was a fairly rare interview from 08 where Chase made some comments. I don't think that Chase ever said anything so definitive.
Personally I think Chase played it safe. Tony was a beloved character. I think he left the ending in such a way to allow open interpretation, so as not to fully close the Tony Soprano storyline.
Either ending is fine to me. Tony was a violent criminal who potentially died by the sword he lived by, a fitting end, while at the same time he potentially get reunited with his family in a safe, happy atmosphere and lives happily.
Awesome show with well developed characters.
Now for me to see the end of Breaking Bad and Dexter. - OilHorse
He said this later as well...
"Tony was dealing in mortality every day. He was dishing out life and death. And he was not happy. He was getting everything he wanted, that guy, but he wasn't happy. All I wanted to do was present the idea of how short life is and how precious it is. The only way I felt I could do that was to rip it away."
Considering the way the scene was set up, and Tony's comments earlier in the series, I definitely think he was offed. But yeah, there's no way to be certain... |
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laughs2907
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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Taylor Hall: Injury prone horse face
Nuge: Skinny injury prone girl
Yak: russian floater
The Oilers picked the wrong guy every year...every single one. - OilHorse
Apparently Yak has told everyone on these boards that he's going back to the KHL shortly as well. |
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laughs2907
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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How the fack did you guys get back to this? - Lahey
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Morris
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Fun fact: factoring in that Ryan Murray missed 48 games and couldn't play in the NHL last year, the trio of Seguin-Landeskog-Murray have missed the same number of games to injury since being drafted as Hall-Nuge-Yakupov. |
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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Fun fact: factoring in that Ryan Murray missed 48 games and couldn't play in the NHL last year, the trio of Seguin-Landeskog-Murray have missed the same number of games to injury since being drafted as Hall-Nuge-Yakupov. - Morris
now do Huberdeau and Galchenyuk |
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Morris
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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now do Huberdeau and Galchenyuk - BingoLady
well obviously less.
I picked those three because those were who we heard post-draft we should have definitely taken.
The fact that we're now suggesting different players shows that it obviously wasn't poor drafting by the oilers as many trolls liked to suggest.
Although if you want me to be cheeky, there have been 212 NHL games since Huberdeau was drafted and he's only played in 48 of them. |
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laughs2907
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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now do Huberdeau and Galchenyuk - BingoLady
Oh, you mean the guy who played 2 regular season games in 2011-12?
REPLY: And how many games have he missed in the NHL?
REPLY: If he missed games in the OHL, he can definitely miss a great deal of games in the much tougher NHL.
And so on. |
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ChetManly
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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ChetManly
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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Oh, you mean the guy who played 2 regular season games in 2011-12?
REPLY: And how many games have he missed in the NHL?
REPLY: If he missed games in the OHL, he can definitely miss a great deal of games in the much tougher NHL.
And so on. - laughs2907
Hey plays for Montreal. He is clearly a better player. |
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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Oh, you mean the guy who played 2 regular season games in 2011-12?
REPLY: And how many games have he missed in the NHL?
REPLY: If he missed games in the OHL, he can definitely miss a great deal of games in the much tougher NHL.
And so on. - laughs2907
NHL stats for Gally - hasn't missed a game |
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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He said this later as well...
"Tony was dealing in mortality every day. He was dishing out life and death. And he was not happy. He was getting everything he wanted, that guy, but he wasn't happy. All I wanted to do was present the idea of how short life is and how precious it is. The only way I felt I could do that was to rip it away."
Considering the way the scene was set up, and Tony's comments earlier in the series, I definitely think he was offed. But yeah, there's no way to be certain... - laughs2907
It was a smart way to end it. Just like in how BB has a lot of foreshadowing, Chase did it well with Sopranos.
Leaving it open keeps many fans interested even years later in how the series went and it didn't box him in, just incase he wants to open up the series again in movies/a spinoff/etc.
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OilHorse
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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NHL stats for Gally - hasn't missed a game - BingoLady
Yet...
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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Yet... - OilHorse
yak only missed 2.
Benched cause he sucks. |
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Lahey
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Eberle not practicing again. Smyth not practicing. Eager and Pitlick not practicing in OKC, so rumor has it they might be coming up. Although I don't understand Eager coming up. |
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ruttager17
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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ruttager17
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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Won it in the HBSL league - don't think I used yak much either in the pool. - BingoLady
Of course you did. I don't like admitting to doing stupid things myself. |
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