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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 3:22 PM ET
Cut back on penalties? Hire the guy with 3150 PIMS.
- PLindbergh31


Because he coaches exactly how he played. Hilarious.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
I'd consider him a better playmaker than a "pure finisher", but in the same way that Gretzky was a better playmaker than a finisher.
- jmatchett383

Paulina's dad, right?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
Because he coaches exactly how he played. Hilarious.
- Feanor


Don't think I said that. But when someone who spent a career in the box preaches discipline players are supposed to take it serious?
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl--craig-berube-hopes-his-latest-move-gets-the-philadelphia-flyers-moving-up-the-nhl-standings-152046275.html
- BulliesPhan87

that was a great article thank you
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
Hey guys, sorry if it's been posted, but Paul Stewart's blog has a video of the Bureau/Svoboda hit complete with the Mactavish fight. That was the only time I thought I saw someone die, and I hated Bureau when he was on the Flyers. I also forgot how MacT wouldn't stop, and actually ended up kneeing him. The NHL needs more guys like him.
- jmatchett383



I was at that game...I remember the silence fell upon the crowd when Svoboda was laying on the ice...and I half jokingly said above the din, "hes dead", within earshot of most of my section...not exactly tactful, but it just kind of looked like that (though I knew he wasn't dead) and I said it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
I was at that game...I remember the silence fell upon the crowd when Svoboda was laying on the ice...and I half jokingly said above the din, "hes dead", within earshot of most of my section...not exactly tactful, but it just kind of looked like that (though I knew he wasn't dead) and I said it.
- exlund


Is that a Led Zep reference? If so, stellar.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
Considering most of his minutes came from fighting majors and most of the current team's penalty minutes come from lazy and stupid obstruction minors, I don't see why the players would find it incongruous.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
that was a great article thank you
- flyer186

No probs, but the credit goes to strongsupporter for mentioning it.


Man, I am SO modest. Did anybody just see that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
I was at that game...I remember the silence fell upon the crowd when Svoboda was laying on the ice...and I half jokingly said above the din, "hes dead", within earshot of most of my section...not exactly tactful, but it just kind of looked like that (though I knew he wasn't dead) and I said it.
- exlund


I really thought he was. Bleeding from the head, then bleeding out of his mouth. I really thought I was watching a person die.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Considering most of his minutes came from fighting majors and most of the current team's penalty minutes come from lazy and stupid obstruction minors, I don't see why the players would find it incongruous.
- Feanor


The list of NHL enforcers who have gone on to become successful NHL coaches is a country mile long.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Don't think I said that. But when someone who spent a career in the box preaches discipline players are supposed to take it serious?
- PLindbergh31



Yes! If a NHL Coach was a former defenseman such as Laviolette was. Are the forwards supposed to take it seriously when he coaches them offensively?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Paulina's dad, right?
- Atomic Wedgie


No, his brother Brent.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
The list of NHL enforcers who have gone on to become successful NHL coaches is a country mile long.
- PLindbergh31



Are you saying that Berube can't be a good coach because he was an NHL enforcer?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
Yes! If a NHL Coach was a former defenseman such as Laviolette was. Are the forwards supposed to take it seriously when he coaches them offensively?
- MJL


No they're not. It's a fact that all NHL coaches mold their players to be exactly what they were. That's why Gretzky's no longer a coach in Phoenix, because all of his players didn't buy into his "Be the most gifted player in NHL history" system.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
Are you saying that Berube can't be a good coach because he was an NHL enforcer?
- MJL


Nope. I'm saying the Jack Adams is in the bag.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
No they're not. It's a fact that all NHL coaches mold their players to be exactly what they were. That's why Gretzky's no longer a coach in Phoenix, because all of his players didn't buy into his "Be the most gifted player in NHL history" system.
- jmatchett383



How is Patrick Roy, who was a goalie, doing it in Colorado?
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
Is that a Led Zep reference? If so, stellar.
- PLindbergh31


I can't say Plant's (All of My Love) vocal didn't pop into my head when I wrote it...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
Nope. I'm saying the Jack Adams is in the bag.
- PLindbergh31



So in other words there's no real point, just negativity towards Berube.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
I can't say Plant's (All of My Love) vocal didn't pop into my head when I wrote it...
- exlund


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
So in other words there's no real point, just negativity towards Berube.
- MJL



Jeez, it was said tongue in cheek.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
No they're not. It's a fact that all NHL coaches mold their players to be exactly what they were. That's why Gretzky's no longer a coach in Phoenix, because all of his players didn't buy into his "Be the most gifted player in NHL history" system.
- jmatchett383


On the other hand, the LA Kings of the early 90's crushed it with Barry Melrose's "Mullet our way to victory" system.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
So in other words there's no real point, just negativity towards Berube.
- MJL


Coming from the guy who said Dreger was full of crap, and insisted Murray would be the next coach.

Now, Berube is your boy!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
No, his brother Brent.
- jmatchett383

We really should get Brent in to give the Schenns some pointers on how to be the most productive pair of brothers in the NHL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Coming from the guy who said Dreger was full of crap, and insisted Murray would be the next coach.

Now, Berube is your boy!

- PLindbergh31



Wrong on both counts. Never stated that Dreger was full of crap. And never insisted that Murray would be the next Coach. Get your facts straight.

Berube certainly wasn't my choice. But that being said, I'm going to be objective and positive and give him a chance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Jeez, it was said tongue in cheek.
- Tomahawk



No it wasn't.
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