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nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:49 PM ET
Simmonds and L Schenn are brutal
- vejim


You dont have to put a first initial in front of schenn...saying schenn sucks works for both of them
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:50 PM ET
The Flyers completely stopped skating and working in that period. Outshot 17-5.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:50 PM ET
Shea Weber for B Schenn and Coots
Still having JVR
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EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:50 PM ET
haha i still thought it was funny that he finally did exactly what he is supposed to do, seemingly right on cue. neither team is really at its best right now. pens have some gaudy shot totals but they really havent gotten many great quality chances. and the powerplay is vomit inducing. (although not as much as listening to michael barkann talk)
- stayinthefnnet


Dude, be thankful you haven't been watching the PP we've been putting up with the last five games
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
Its a fluke goal. Total coverage breakdown leaving a clear path for Roo to Simmer's stick. A gift goal and meaningless.
They are lost right now. Absolutely bewildered.

- PT21


So what you're saying is the Flyers aren't really that bad since that's the type of goals they give up. Just flukes. Interesting.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
They can DO this!
Fleury looks like crap no matter what the announcers say and we are his bogeyman. Crash the net and get in his grill and this game is ours!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
if you think that is graceful you should see my work at the urinal
- Pyzik

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:52 PM ET
Watching the Flyers would make a great drinking game....

Everytime one of the homers spew a cliche, take a shot or two.

"If they just show more effort"
"They just have to battle harder"
"They just need to build some confidence"
"They just have to put their nose to the grind and work"

SHUT UP DIMWITS!! It's not effort, they suck! That's like telling Hartnell if he tries harder he could skate like St. Louis, just try harder.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:52 PM ET
They can DO this!
Fleury looks like crap no matter what the announcers say and we are his bogeyman. Crash the net and get in his grill and this game is ours!

- FlyersGrace



The effort and compete level needs to be drastically improved. The compete level in that 2nd period was embarrassing.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:52 PM ET
Dude, be thankful you haven't been watching the PP we've been putting up with the last five games
- EducatedOpinion

yeah yours hasnt exactly been clicking either. at least they showed a good mindset on the last one. simple and get it in the crease
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:52 PM ET
Sure there is. Skill doesn't mean anything without effort and determination to go along with it.
- MJL


They got outshot 17-2 in a period they entered tied. What, they just decided not give full effort because....why would that be, again? They changed the coach that had been tuned out. They're at home. They're playing their biggest rival. They're 1-6.

Why aren't they determined, MJL? By all means, I would love to hear you explain on what planet does a professional team "play without effort" under these circumstances.

Keep telling yourself they're not giving full effort.

The rest of us understand reality.
Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Flemington, NJ
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 8:53 PM ET



stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
They can DO this!
Fleury looks like crap no matter what the announcers say and we are his bogeyman. Crash the net and get in his grill and this game is ours!

- FlyersGrace

he actually hasnt looked bad, when hes been in the net. mason has been better so far though, although he has been asked to do a little more.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
haha i still thought it was funny that he finally did exactly what he is supposed to do, seemingly right on cue. neither team is really at its best right now. pens have some gaudy shot totals but they really havent gotten many great quality chances. and the powerplay is vomit inducing. (although not as much as listening to michael barkann talk)
- stayinthefnnet

You better (frank)in believe that
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
Watching the Flyers would make a great drinking game....

Everytime one of the homers spew a cliche, take a shot or two.

"If they just show more effort"
"They just have to battle harder"
"They just need to build some confidence"
"They just have to put their nose to the grind and work"

SHUT UP DIMWITS!! It's not effort, they suck! That's like telling Hartnell if he tries harder he could skate like St. Louis, just try harder.

- Glak18

Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Flemington, NJ
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 8:54 PM ET

- JAKEw1234



bahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:54 PM ET

- JAKEw1234


Sorry too many words for you...effort not problem, playing hockey problem.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
They got outshot 17-2 in a period they entered tied. What, they just decided not give full effort because....why would that be, again? They changed the coach that had been tuned out. They're at home. They're playing their biggest rival. They're 1-6.

Why aren't they determined, MJL? By all means, I would love to hear you explain on what planet does a professional team "play without effort" under these circumstances.

Keep telling yourself they're not giving full effort.

The rest of us understand reality.

- AllInForFlyers





There's a difference between giving effort, and giving maximum effort. And raising your level of play like the Pens did that period. Can you really tell me you saw the Flyers playing with maximum effort and intensity that period? It's a simple game. You think you understand reality, but you don't. You think let's add a Vanek and it will be the miracle cure.
The Pens have a bunch of grinders to go along with the top players. And they out skated and outworked the Flyers in that period. It's that simple
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
Sorry too many words for you...effort not problem, playing hockey problem.
- Glak18

Intelligent.

NEXT
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
The effort and compete level needs to be drastically improved. The compete level in that 2nd period was embarrassing.
- MJL

I dont see anything positive so far from this new coach, the team looks slow as hell
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
They got outshot 17-2 in a period they entered tied. What, they just decided not give full effort because....why would that be, again? They changed the coach that had been tuned out. They're at home. They're playing their biggest rival. They're 1-6.

Why aren't they determined, MJL? By all means, I would love to hear you explain on what planet does a professional team "play without effort" under these circumstances.

Keep telling yourself they're not giving full effort.

The rest of us understand reality.

- AllInForFlyers

i wont simplify it to strictly an effort thing. but come on. look at this lineup and tell me it really lacks for goal scorers, on paper at least. i admit that the whole on paper thing is tricky, but thats where things like effort and chemistry do come into play. but just objectively, there are at least 5 or 6 guys who should be potting minimum of 20 goals on this team.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:56 PM ET
Watching the Flyers would make a great drinking game....

Everytime one of the homers spew a cliche, take a shot or two.

"If they just show more effort"
"They just have to battle harder"
"They just need to build some confidence"
"They just have to put their nose to the grind and work"

SHUT UP DIMWITS!! It's not effort, they suck! That's like telling Hartnell if he tries harder he could skate like St. Louis, just try harder.

- Glak18


I want to add to your drinking game....every time jackson or coates complain about a call not be made take a shot and chug a beer......you will die of alcohol poisoning by 2nd intermission
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:57 PM ET


There's a difference between giving effort, and giving maximum effort. And raising your level of play like the Pens did that period. Can you really tell me you saw the Flyers playing with maximum effort and intensity that period? It's a simple game. You think you understand reality, but you don't. You think let's add a Vanek and it will be the miracle cure.

- MJL

i still have yet to see someone explain to me a vanek trade situation that is realistic in which the flyers com out ahead. that said, i like vanek as a player but best of luck in getting him
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:57 PM ET
I dont see anything positive so far from this new coach, the team looks slow as hell
- vejim

Breakouts are much better, and when they are paying attention they are much better defensively. The lack of scoring is infuriating.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:57 PM ET
The effort and compete level needs to be drastically improved. The compete level in that 2nd period was embarrassing.
- MJL


Odd, same problems since before Stevens was the coach...so the solution is effort equals win? Hold the press let me tell every team they just need effort to win games, everyone will win the cup now

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