Taking calls? Really? Yeah take calls, but all accounts say that Edm made a bigger offer and van still traded him to njd. I haven't heard anything about van making counter offers, only them Rejecting the oilers.

La didn't want to trade bernier to a west team but sought out a western team to try to make a deal? Seems like they aren't that concerned, looking more for the best deal.
- burn

Didn't hear that at all actually. Heard that MacT was mad by how little Schneider went for, and heard that Vancouver wanted more from the oilers, but I didn't hear that Edmonton made that offer.

I heard Reimer wants his chucrh to name him a Saint.
- Oilhab

He robs people too much to become a saint, even with all those saves.

OptIMU$$$$$

He robs people too much to become a saint, even with all those saves.
- MapleLeafsFTW

to name kessel a saint.

Didn't hear that at all actually. Heard that MacT was mad by how little Schneider went for, and heard that Vancouver wanted more from the oilers, but I didn't hear that Edmonton made that offer.
- Morris

maybe you should read more Toronto Bloggers.

do the math now with Bernier and not Scrivens...thats a BS stat...Scrivens and Rynnas in net for the ones Reimer didnt play
- poohcrumbs

And Gustavson.

and we're 4-1 with Bernier in goal and 2-0 with Reimer (3-0 thanks moreso to Bernier.) And the Reimer record goes back 3 years, even when Rotten ROnnie was here. I rather keep Reimer this year, I like this tandem a lot.

maybe you should read more Toronto Bloggers.
- Oilhab

Id go read some Hab bloggers but I cant read that poopty language

Colin Dambrauskas: Why the Toronto Maple Leafs Are Winning...
- Colin_Dambrauskas

Until there is a more accurate way to track giveaways and takeaways - and applied consistently at all NHL arenas - the data that is collected to calculate corsi and fenwick is unreliable and can't be taken as gospel when it comes to being accepted as a mainstream way to predict team success. Not to mention the quality of shots/chances. 3rd lines possess the puck for long stretches - potent scoring lines possess it, create an opportunity and are hopefully lining back up at centre shortly after. You tell me which you'd prefer.

Id go read some Hab bloggers but I cant read that poopty language
- poohcrumbs

good one

And Gustavson.

and we're 4-1 with Bernier in goal and 2-0 with Reimer (3-0 thanks moreso to Bernier.) And the Reimer record goes back 3 years, even when Rotten ROnnie was here. I rather keep Reimer this year, I like this tandem a lot.
- mykokes

so maybe Gigure is in there too then? poop stat who ever brought that up must be reading howard berger

to name kessel a saint.
- Oilhab

Approved.

Taking calls? Really? Yeah take calls, but all accounts say that Edm made a bigger offer and van still traded him to njd. I haven't heard anything about van making counter offers, only them Rejecting the oilers.

La didn't want to trade bernier to a west team but sought out a western team to try to make a deal? Seems like they aren't that concerned, looking more for the best deal.
- burn

Edmonton didn't make a bigger offer...Canucks named their price and Edmonton said no. You are once again wrong.

Just like with Minny. LA said they want Coyle. Minny said no thanks.

good one
- Oilhab

Merci bow coup deville, pomplemousse, bonhomme de neige

Edmonton didn't make a bigger offer...Canucks named their price and Edmonton said no. You are once again wrong.

Just like with Minny. LA said they want Coyle. Minny said no thanks.
- Iggysbff

You don't know that, it's purely speculation.

You don't know that, it's purely speculation.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Lets debate over speculation , and who thinks who thinks what..and what might of been or could of happened

Lets debate over speculation , and who thinks who thinks what..and what might of been or could of happened
- poohcrumbs

Indeed Poohcrumbs, indeed.

Lets debate over speculation , and who thinks who thinks what..and what might of been or could of happened
- poohcrumbs

It would be a waste of time when the only speculation that is correct is the TO bloggers that Burn has read.

so maybe Gigure is in there too then? poop stat who ever brought that up must be reading howard berger
- poohcrumbs

I brought it up, I did the math. And yes Giguerre is in there too. Jesus. Thanks for making me feel redundant.

Personally I was impressed by their record with Reimer in goal, one of the reasons why I like him, and I thought it was a great counter to the whole Dubnyk plays behind a pooptier defense. What I find even more funny is at the same time that Oilhab says we have a better defense, he still manages to say we have a poopty defense. Like he's arguing for the sake of arguing and saying two conflicting things. But thanks for ripping MY OBSERVATION and likening me to Howard Berger.

Lets debate over speculation , and who thinks who thinks what..and what might of been or could of happened
- poohcrumbs

true, the whole thing is not worth debating.

The people who want to feed the Edmonton Sucks narrative will continue believing that the Oilers were both stupid enough to overpay and pathetic enough to be rejected.

The people who want to feed the Edmonton Rules narrative will continue believing MacT expertly called Gillis' bluff and opted to take a stud defenseman instead.

The rest of us fall vaguely in the middle.

Oh Colin. I'm disappointed in you! Did you actually watch the game, or just study the boxscore/stats sheets?

The Leafs were clearly the better team in this game. The shot totals were ridiculous in the 1st because the Leafs were shorthanded 4 times. They still finished the period with the lead because they have FINISHERS. The Wild had tons of shots in this game, but not many solid chances (2 breakaways notwithstanding).

Why do you keep acting surprised that the Leafs give their opponents tons of easy to save shots, while holding a high shooting percentage because the shots they take are largely on dangerous scoring opportunities? This isn't new; it's been happening since the start of last season, and will continue to happen.

They need to limit those boneheaded breakaway gifts, and Reimer needs to figure out how to stifle a rebound or two, but overall the Leafs defensive play last night wasn't that bad.

There is nothing funner then watching your team sit in their own end and weather a barrage of shots all game and hope they can hang on. The leafs are good at hanging on and not cracking in the last moments.
- Oilhab

Almost seems like Jacques Martin is coaching the leafs

Oh Colin. I'm disappointed in you! Did you actually watch the game, or just study the boxscore/stats sheets?

The Leafs were clearly the better team in this game. The shot totals were ridiculous in the 1st because the Leafs were shorthanded 4 times. They still finished the period with the lead because they have FINISHERS. The Wild had tons of shots in this game, but not many solid chances (2 breakaways notwithstanding).

Why do you keep acting surprised that the Leafs give their opponents tons of easy to save shots, while holding a high shooting percentage because the shots they take are largely on dangerous scoring opportunities? This isn't new; it's been happening since the start of last season, and will continue to happen.

They need to limit those boneheaded breakaway gifts, and Reimer needs to figure out how to stifle a rebound or two, but overall the Leafs defensive play last night wasn't that bad.
- 1979AD

gold jerry

- Dozzer

that's what it feels like in here some days

that's what it feels like in here some days
- Garnie

thats not a fear for me.. its wishful thinking