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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
I didn't watch the whole game very closely but what I did see in the 2nd & 3rd periods looked like a lot of perimeter play in the o-zone and sitting back trying not to lose in the d-zone. Better than the fire drills I've seen but not fighting for ice by any means.
- fnmjoe13

what the hell are they afraid of?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:24 AM ET
it was ridiculous, the bad coverage, the missed shot attempts,

I really wonder what happens when Berube's record becomes 2-10 or something similar?

- puckhead17


Berube should be safe at least until the end of the season. I don't know if any coach is going to turn this team around quickly. I do think they should've given him the interim tag until the end of this year. The multiyear contract was a bit hasty. I wonder if Berube would still have been the choice if Laviolette had been fired at the end of last season.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
Matt Damon
- iroc4me2


???
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 16 @ 9:31 AM ET
Berube should be safe at least until the end of the season. I don't know if any coach is going to turn this team around quickly. I do think they should've given him the interim tag until the end of this year. The multiyear contract was a bit hasty. I wonder if Berube would still have been the choice if Laviolette had been fired at the end of last season.
- Flyers_01


In hindsight, maybe having Berube around made Holmgren more comfortable giving Laviolette a full training camp to turn things around, such that he knew if it was going to go bad, he could just hand the thing over to Berube.

Just a thought.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:36 AM ET
Berube should be safe at least until the end of the season. I don't know if any coach is going to turn this team around quickly. I do think they should've given him the interim tag until the end of this year. The multiyear contract was a bit hasty. I wonder if Berube would still have been the choice if Laviolette had been fired at the end of last season.
- Flyers_01


i agree, but an 82 year old owner wants results now, therefore who knows?

the scary thing is that they didn't hustle & looked inept under the Lavy & they hustle more yet are still inept in other areas under Berube, the "we do look better" I don't really buy, because 1-6 is 1-6.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:38 AM ET
In hindsight, maybe having Berube around made Holmgren more comfortable giving Laviolette a full training camp to turn things around, such that he knew if it was going to go bad, he could just hand the thing over to Berube.

Just a thought.

- johndewar



Maybe. Unfortunately that means that Holmgren was willing to throw away a month of practices and preseason games. Now Berube has to undo a month + of repitition while trying to win games.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:43 AM ET
i agree, but an 82 year old owner wants results now, therefore who knows?

the scary thing is that they didn't hustle & looked inept under the Lavy & they hustle more yet are still inept in other areas under Berube, the "we do look better" I don't really buy, because 1-6 is 1-6.

- puckhead17


It's a results business. Out of a possible 14 points, they have 2. And that is a game where they were outplayed by the Panthers on the heels of a coaching change.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:43 AM ET
what the hell are they afraid of?
- isaiah520


yeah, really, you would think you have a 1-5 record & are up 2-1 after 2 & would go "balls out" to grab that game, yet they sat around & watched the puck carrier in the 3rd period, Berube preached play better w/o the puck & it led to playing a hand into losing the 3rd period.
iladel90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bensalem, PA
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 16 @ 9:45 AM ET
The team lacks leadership & work ethic. It goes back to the Richards trade. The team has become less & less defensively sound since that trade. After the trade guys started taking their cues from guys like Briere & Jagr who while great on offense don't give much on d. On the 2nd goal Giroux was covering nobody & refused to go after Sedin behind the net. If you give him that kind of time he will find someone opened. If he forces him out Grossmann can cover the front of the net better. Couturier, Read & Talbot are the only forwards that try on both sides on he ice. They should bring back Gagne as they clearly know they need another forward if they were in on Cleary. That would give you an actual 4th line that can play a regular shift.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
It's a results business. Out of a possible 14 points, they have 2. And that is a game where they were outplayed by the Panthers on the heels of a coaching change.
- PLindbergh31


Mason stole that game or we would be 0-7, think about that one.
also Tim Thomas was horrible before he was injured, making 2 bad mistakes, it's not like they won one game outplaying the opposition.
When the hell did things get so bad?
I'm stunned & disgusted, as are so many others.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
Mason stole that game or we would be 0-7, think about that one.
also Tim Thomas was horrible before he was injured, making 2 bad mistakes, it's not like they won one game outplaying the opposition.
When the hell did things get so bad?
I'm stunned & disgusted, as are so many others.

- puckhead17


It's a trainwreck. When things constantly blow up in their face, these are the results.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
I guess they have issues they need to IRON out.
- Flyers_01

They need their goalie to steel a game.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
They need their goalie to steel a game.
- Atomic Wedgie


Mason has been good this year. Very good. 2.23 gaa, and a .926 save %. He's the least of the teams problems right now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:56 AM ET
Hard for Hall to take a draw, when they don't have a 4th line. Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier took every faceoff besides one.
- PLindbergh31



They have a 4th line. And Hall can be sent out on other lines to take defensive draws.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:56 AM ET
Mason has been good this year. Very good. 2.23 gaa, and a .926 save %. He's the least of the teams problems right now.
- PLindbergh31


he's not a problem at all. he's a shiny, bright spot. everyone else can go die in a grease fire with dolan.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:56 AM ET
Mood?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:59 AM ET
Mood?
- hockeylover


disinterested, yet slightly amused.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:59 AM ET
he's not a problem at all. he's a shiny, bright spot. everyone else can go die in a grease fire with dolan.
- hammarby31




It's going to be a long year. This team will be irrelevant by Christmas.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
Mason has been good this year. Very good. 2.23 gaa, and a .926 save %. He's the least of the teams problems right now.
- PLindbergh31

If you aren't going to play along with the metal theme, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
Mood?
- hockeylover


Totally effing sour.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
Berube should be safe at least until the end of the season. I don't know if any coach is going to turn this team around quickly. I do think they should've given him the interim tag until the end of this year. The multiyear contract was a bit hasty. I wonder if Berube would still have been the choice if Laviolette had been fired at the end of last season.
- Flyers_01



It's not hasty. They just fired one Coach. Making Berube an interim Head Coach would send the wrong message to the players. They have to know this is the guy, and that it's time to play.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 10:02 AM ET
If you aren't going to play along with the metal theme, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
- Atomic Wedgie




I saw what you did after my post.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 16 @ 10:02 AM ET
yeah, really, you would think you have a 1-5 record & are up 2-1 after 2 & would go "balls out" to grab that game, yet they sat around & watched the puck carrier in the 3rd period, Berube preached play better w/o the puck & it led to playing a hand into losing the 3rd period.
- puckhead17



How they played in the 3rd period is not how Berube wants them to play.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 10:02 AM ET
If you aren't going to play along with the metal theme, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
- Atomic Wedgie



ok, thought it was a typo as well

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:02 AM ET
Last year says hello.

Just sayin'...

- Atomic Wedgie


He was being sarcastic.

Just sayin'...
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