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BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:49 PM ET
Per various twitter feeds, Dan Boyle taken off on a stretcher after hit from behind by Lapierre.

Also, many reporting Pacioretty went down with a bad looking knee injury.

Haven't seen either one myself yet. Anyone?

- BringBack25


Here's the Lapierre hit on Boyle:
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
What makes it even worse is that those are the kinds of turnovers that allow teams to come at our defense "at speed."

Our defense has certain qualities about it that are good. For one, they play hard, will block shots and take hits to make plays.

But they are not good at "turn and go," and they do lose coverage when teams come at them with speed.

When Voracek does that multiple times a game...that does more to expose our defense to situations that they aren't as good with more than any other player on the team right now.

- AllInForFlyers


Absolutely, turnovers made high in the offensive zone often lead to odd man rushes against and are guaranteed to drive coaches nuts
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
and sit rino in the press box

won't happen though

- FlyerMike18


Please don't let McCain sit in the press box!
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
When Vinnie comes back in after the break, I would go with:
McGinn-G-Voracek
Schenn-VL-Simmonds
Talbot-Coots-Read
Raffl-Hall-Zak

when Hartnell comes back a couple weeks later, assuming McGinn is still playing well, I'd put Hartnell with Coots and Read and drop Talbot down with Hall and Rinaldo

- BiggE


This is what needs to happen.
Well said, Harts needs to be on the 3rd line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:51 PM ET
When Vinnie comes back in after the break, I would go with:
McGinn-G-Voracek
Schenn-VL-Simmonds
Talbot-Coots-Read
Raffl-Hall-Zak

when Hartnell comes back a couple weeks later, assuming McGinn is still playing well, I'd put Hartnell with Coots and Read and drop Talbot down with Hall and Rinaldo

- BiggE


McGinn is doing a great job so far, obviously scoring 3 goals in 2 games. But he's not a first line Winger in this League over the long haul. When this hot streak ends, if he's left there, he'll become a scapegoat. Play him on the 3rd or 4th line where he belongs. And at least give the kid a chance.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:53 PM ET
McGinn is doing a great job so far, obviously scoring 3 goals in 2 games. But he's not a first line Winger in this League over the long haul. When this hot streak ends, if he's left there, he'll become a scapegoat. Play him on the 3rd or 4th line where he belongs. And at least give the kid a chance.
- MJL


Im not saying keep McGinn on the 1st line all year, but it wouldnt be a bad idea to start Hartnell on the 3rd line after a 4 week or so layoff
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Oct 15 @ 8:54 PM ET
McGinn is doing a great job so far, obviously scoring 3 goals in 2 games. But he's not a first line Winger in this League over the long haul. When this hot streak ends, if he's left there, he'll become a scapegoat. Play him on the 3rd or 4th line where he belongs. And at least give the kid a chance.
- MJL

, yup but you definitely keep them there while he is hot!
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
McGinn is doing a great job so far, obviously scoring 3 goals in 2 games. But he's not a first line Winger in this League over the long haul. When this hot streak ends, if he's left there, he'll become a scapegoat. Play him on the 3rd or 4th line where he belongs. And at least give the kid a chance.
- MJL


Or Ride him while he's hot, and when he cools off move him down. He's the only player scoring and going to the net.. and you want him playing with Rinaldo or Rosehill right now?

Unless you didn't mean to infer moving him to the bottom lines right now.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
They should sit. Rosehill is on the team as the 13th forward. Play McGinn on the 4th line, or the 3rd line. Keep playing hard and going to the net.
- MJL


or maybe a bit of both, with variation depending on the game situation
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
Grossmann hurt on that hit.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
Grossmann may be dead. We no longer have too many d-men.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
And the first Flyers Dmen this season that bites the injury dust, come on down Andrej.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
Here's the Lapierre hit on Boyle:

- BringBack25


conky?

my fantasy team is dying
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
Grossmann hurt
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:58 PM ET
conky?

my fantasy team is dying

- FlyerMike18


reportedly taken off on a stretcher. kinda looked like he was out before he even hit the ice. seemed to hit his chin right on the dasher.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
And the first Flyers Dmen this season that bites the injury dust, come on down Andrej.
- Yosimar89

If Grossmann is out I'd go with Gill, similar style and can fill the same type of role
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
Grossmann hurt
- JAKEw1234

Straight up looked like he pooped his pants on impact.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
reportedly taken off on a stretcher. kinda looked like he was out before he even hit the ice. seemed to hit his chin right on the dasher.
- BringBack25

ouch!!
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
If Grossmann is out I'd go with Gill, similar style and can fill the same type of role
- BiggE

I rather have Lauridsen, on the count he wont die of lack of oxygen after one shift.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
reportedly taken off on a stretcher. kinda looked like he was out before he even hit the ice. seemed to hit his chin right on the dasher.
- BringBack25


yea you can see it in that replay. hopefully it's nothing serious, man
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Oct 15 @ 9:01 PM ET
If Grossmann is out I'd go with Gill, similar style and can fill the same type of role
- BiggE


No worries. Grossmann has been reanimated by McCrossin.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 9:01 PM ET
I rather have Lauridsen, on the count he wont die of lack of oxygen after one shift.
- Yosimar89



Looks like big Nik is back and ornery too!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 15 @ 9:01 PM ET
Straight up looked like he pooped his pants on impact.
- hereticpride

He's still playing, so until the situation changes we have a healthy D core....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Flyers found the recipe of success so far. Shut down the Sedins and there goes the Canucks offense.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 15 @ 9:04 PM ET
Lu went to the Martin Biron school of puck handling.


And of course.
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