So lets start the proposals again;
1. Yak for Miller (+2 round pick if he doesn't re-sign)
2. Dubnyk (+3 round pick if he doesn't resign), Hemsky for Dillon and Cole.
Dallas needs a goalie now that Lehtonen is on the IR.

agreed
- time2produce

Why?

I dunno.

he's standing on his head thus far this year apparently. but only getting 1 goal of help a night.
he's got a vezina not too long ago too. he has been great in the past. was average last year tho.

but he couldn't possibly be worse than what we've been given thus far.

we're not even looking for goalie to steal games at this point. just give us a chance. I think he could do that
- hugefemale dog77

But a 1st? IMO that would be a massive mistake. If Mac was gonna do that he might as well done 7th and klefbolm/top prospect for Schneider and then had a guy who was there long term.

I mentioned earlier Holtby and Carlson for yaks.

Perhaps a Mega deal with nashville

So lets start the proposals again;
1. Yak for Miller (+2 round pick if he doesn't re-sign)
2. Dubnyk (+3 round pick if he doesn't resign), Hemsky for Dillon and Cole.
Dallas needs a goalie now that Lehtonen is on the IR.
- nated81

Lets not.

Its hard to just look at the stats. In the oilers games I've seen this season, guys are not covered a lot. Point blank opertunities, open nets etc. Its goaltending and d. Forwards, and I mean all 4 lines need to put more effort into d as well
- Bieksa#3

I noticed this also, which was the crux of my point. Their play in their own end is horrid, and they give the opposing team too many easy chances to score. Fans get fooled into thinking shot quality is less important than shot quantity. That's the side effects of Corsi type stats. Is the goalie to blame? (frank) yes. But he ain't the only one to blame. Sad that Yak and Duby, who deserve critism, are the ones to bear the total brunt and blame for the teams failures.

What gives in Edmonton. It is tough to watch. Year 5 of the rebuild and it is much of the same. Is it a coaching staff/strategy problem or a management issue?
- fudd1689

depending on if you're referring on the scorched earth rebuild. it's year 4. not that it mkes it ok. just sayin.

I think it's goaltending issue at present.
lowe can shoulder tons of the blame for the past failings and how this team got to where it was in 2010. but I don't blame any coaches, gm's etc right now for our 1-4-1 start.

So lets start the proposals again;
1. Yak for Miller (+2 round pick if he doesn't re-sign)
2. Dubnyk (+3 round pick if he doesn't resign), Hemsky for Dillon and Cole.
Dallas needs a goalie now that Lehtonen is on the IR.
- nated81

Where is the goalie for Dallas? Can hemmer play net?

its everyone not playing good but the coach is the one who will be gone first, Mac T come down from GM and coach this team already. Dub kept us in a lot of games last year we shouldn't have been in don't know whats wrong with him this year.


1 5 1 and we play pitt tomorrow most likely 1 6 1 ouch this could be along year
- time2produce

and this year he has actively cost us games already. Games they had no business losing. I dont care what he did last year. This year, thus far, he has been putridly bad.

So lets start the proposals again;
1. Yak for Miller (+2 round pick if he doesn't re-sign)
2. Dubnyk (+3 round pick if he doesn't resign), Hemsky for Dillon and Cole.
Dallas needs a goalie now that Lehtonen is on the IR.
- nated81

why would they trade for dubnyk when they could claim biron off waivers?

Where is the goalie for Dallas? Can hemmer play net?
- Bieksa#3

LOL, you got me on that one.

and this year he has actively cost us games already. Games they had no business losing. I dont care what he did last year. This year, thus far, he has been putridly bad.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

So has the whole team, in their own end. Dont get mad, Im sorry I watched all but one of their games. I just call it like I see it. They should get the most blame, no doubt, but not all the blame.

why would they trade for dubnyk when they could claim biron off waivers?
- derm10

Cuz that would put them at the limit for contracts. I was just throwing it out there out of sheer boredom.

I noticed this also, which was I mentioned it. Their play in their own end is horrid, and they give the opposing team too many easy chances to score. Fans get fooled into thinking shot quality is less important than shot quality. That's the side effects of Corsi type stats.
- Beer11

you don't watch enough oiler games.

if you did, you wouldn't be talking about shot quality. as if our goalies have just been hung out to dry nightly. outside of a few against Vancouver, not the case.


im not even talking about the big saves really. just the ones you're supposed to make.

So has the whole team, in their own end. Dont get mad, Im sorry I watched all but one of their games. I just call it like I see it. They should get the most blame, no doubt, but not all the blame.
- Beer11

When they're scoring 4-6 goals a game (2 games excluded) those are games they should win. Period. Observe what you like but from the games I've watched there is one, single, solitary reason they've lost those games...and it isn't Eakins or the blueline.

you don't watch enough oiler games.

if you did, you wouldn't be talking about shot quality. as if our goalies have just been hung out to dry nightly. outside of a few against Vancouver, not the case.


im not even talking about the big saves really. just the ones you're supposed to make.
- hugefemale dog77

You must not read enough posts if you think I said the team has left the goalies out to dry nightly.

So has the whole team, in their own end. Dont get mad, Im sorry I watched all but one of their games. I just call it like I see it. They should get the most blame, no doubt, but not all the blame.
- Beer11

im glad you agree.

but you really don't have a choice if you have in fact watched a bunch of the oiler games.

I noticed this also, which was the crux of my point. Their play in their own end is horrid, and they give the opposing team too many easy chances to score. Fans get fooled into thinking shot quality is less important than shot quantity. That's the side effects of Corsi type stats. Is the goalie to blame? (frank) yes. But he ain't the only one to blame. Sad that Yak and Duby, who deserve critism, are the ones to bear the total brunt and blame for the teams failures.
- Beer11

Im not blaming Yak. Sometimes guys get benched when they need an adjustment, It happens who cares?

When they're scoring 4-6 goals a game (2 games excluded) those are games they should win. Period. Observe what you like but from the games I've watched there is one, single, solitary reason they've lost those games...and it isn't Eakins or the blueline.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

so if u score 4-6 goals u should win or it's the goalies fault?

When they're scoring 4-6 goals a game (2 games excluded) those are games they should win. Period. Observe what you like but from the games I've watched there is one, single, solitary reason they've lost those games...and it isn't Eakins or the blueline.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Yea, Ill let you win this. Im taking pleasure in the misery, you're just miserable. It's obvious this is a team wide failure, but one guy is all you need to blame. Makes you feel like the solution is just one move away. I can understand that. Like a comfort blanket.

Why?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

the goalies haven't been good I agree but way to many unforced turnovers and soft plays. This team plays one good period a game. Yes we out shot teams but most shots are from outside not quality shots. There is more problems with this team then a jay z song and il stick to this if we had Quick or Rask we would have lost still but just by one goal. Also to many penalties and at bad times

so if u score 4-6 goals u should win or it's the goalies fault?
- derm10

Well yea. If you score, you don't have to play defense. Just ask Ovechkin.

Im not blaming Yak. Sometimes guys get benched when they need an adjustment, It happens who cares?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

neither am I.

who's blaming yaks for our failures? he hasn't even played in 2 losses.

he's been fairly bad in the start of the year, but certainly not the reason we're losing.
Eakins felt he needed to get benched. so be it

so if u score 4-6 goals u should win or it's the goalies fault?
- derm10

Is this a serious question?

When they're scoring 4-6 goals a game (2 games excluded) those are games they should win. Period. Observe what you like but from the games I've watched there is one, single, solitary reason they've lost those games...and it isn't Eakins or the blueline.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

last year it was the team hanging duby out to dry.. now it's him not making the key saves. don't think it's as cut and dry as u try and make it sounds.

wow. this is weak.