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NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 8:43 AM ET
obviously we haven't drafted high enough to get the Kane's Toews, Tavares Stamkos's of the league but more and more kids are making jump straight from jr to nhl instead of playing jr till their 21 and then the AHL till their 25. The Devils just aren't going with the direction of the league they have blue print from 20 years ago and won't change it well guess what it's now broken and doesn't work time to fix it and start building a team that is: young, big, skilled, and fast. You can have guys that are 6'4 215 and be physical, fast and skilled you don't guys who are 40 and 230+ lbs that have some skill but no speed. If we wanted guys like that we should of picked up Eric Daze after the 03 lock out all those guys got weened out once the league got faster.
- blizzzard



We need some speed desperately in lineup. Why i want Jo in and Teddy to get a real look. Need to do something cause how PDB has used his personnel so far is pathetic. 1 line with chemistry and every other line and dpair looks lost out there together. We actually had a camp this year really no excuses and im sick of hearing about the new faces....All the new guys have been fine. Maybe if they had consistent linemates day to day some chemistry would actually develop.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 8:43 AM ET
(frank)ing Matteau just a complete waste of a pick. I hate him
- blizzzard



Hate Lou for that one...
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Oct 14 @ 8:45 AM ET
I never liked Clowe on San Jose and now I remember why. He is so in and out of the game. This year mostly out. If he's slow, at least make up for it with board play and play in front of the net. But you don't even know he's on the ice unless he is late to back check.
- BarryB1124


I just hate having him when just last year when the Rangers traded for him I was laughing at them saying they got a slow injured stiff and now he's on our team

edit:and for another 5 YEARS!!!
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Oct 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
(frank)ing Matteau just a complete waste of a pick. I hate him
- blizzzard


The Matteau curse strikes again!!!
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 8:48 AM ET
We need some speed desperately in lineup. Why i want Jo in and Teddy to get a real look. Need to do something cause how PDB has used his personnel so far is pathetic. 1 line with chemistry and every other line and dpair looks lost out there together. We actually had a camp this year really no excuses and im sick of hearing about the new faces....All the new guys have been fine. Maybe if they had consistent linemates day to day some chemistry would actually develop.
- NickA

Or we where close. The guy doesn't seem to have a clue. I don't what he is watching cause guys are losing battles all over the ice in our end in their end in the neutral zone. We lose every race to the puck... no surprise but the thing is the give up once they know they aren't getting it they don't finish their checks or get in a spot to get the puck of the guy who just beat them or take away passing lanes. The crappy thing is we don't play till thursday so we have to wait a while to see if the boys of learned anything if they lose again thursday something has to happened. I would rather something happen before thursday but no one seems to be desperate enough from the players all the way up to management.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 8:52 AM ET
I just hate having him when just last year when the Rangers traded for him I was laughing at them saying they got a slow injured stiff and now he's on our team

edit:and for another 5 YEARS!!!

- Gambi99

I think he is trying though which is more I can say about anyone not named Marty or Cory. If he had of been able to get that fight going with Bogo he might of fired the boys up but he needs to be more consistant in crashing the net can't just do it once a game you have to do it every shift you get. Ryder was useless last night the guy isn't very good with the puck and every shot he got he shot directly into the jets logo on the goalie and he is supposed to be our sniper. Elias can create chances like anyone but the last 3 years it's been getting harder and harder for him to bury them 5 years ago he would of had that goal no questions asked.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
We should trade for urbom
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
We should trade for urbom
- shvingter88

LOL I wish St. Louis had Janssen I would trade them Salvador for him now
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Oct 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
We should trade for urbom
- shvingter88

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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
LOL I wish St. Louis had Janssen I would trade them Salvador for him now
- blizzzard

I don't want either
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
I don't want either
- shvingter88

At least Janssen they aren't afraid to send to the minors
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Oct 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
I think he is trying though which is more I can say about anyone not named Marty or Cory. If he had of been able to get that fight going with Bogo he might of fired the boys up but he needs to be more consistant in crashing the net can't just do it once a game you have to do it every shift you get. Ryder was useless last night the guy isn't very good with the puck and every shot he got he shot directly into the jets logo on the goalie and he is supposed to be our sniper. Elias can create chances like anyone but the last 3 years it's been getting harder and harder for him to bury them 5 years ago he would of had that goal no questions asked.
- blizzzard


I know he trys but it seems like he always a step or two behind everybody else. San Jose last year decided to change it up and go "faster" and traded all their slower, older players like Clowe, Murray and Handzus and look at them now. I watch them school the Rangers the other night and it was actually scary how good and FAST they were. The Devils would lose by 10 if we had to play them now. I just wish we can be more like them and less like the "oldest and slowest" team in hockey.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
I know he trys but it seems like he always a step or two behind everybody else. San Jose last year decided to change it up and go "faster" and traded all their slower, older players like Clowe, Murray and Handzus and look at them now. I watch them school the Rangers the other night and it was actually scary how good and FAST they were. The Devils would lose by 10 if we had to play them now. I just wish we can be more like them and less like the "oldest and slowest" team in hockey.
- Gambi99

No doubt he is a step behind, guys that big usually are but they make up for it in some way. Lucic is by no means a speedster but if he isn't putting up points you can bet you're ass he is putting guys through the glass, crashing nets getting in peoples faces and just beating the living (frank) out of guys. People fear Lucic I am not so sure to many fear Clowe especially since if he does fight he doesn't go all out due to his concussion history.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
I know he trys but it seems like he always a step or two behind everybody else. San Jose last year decided to change it up and go "faster" and traded all their slower, older players like Clowe, Murray and Handzus and look at them now. I watch them school the Rangers the other night and it was actually scary how good and FAST they were. The Devils would lose by 10 if we had to play them now. I just wish we can be more like them and less like the "oldest and slowest" team in hockey.
- Gambi99



I really wouldn't care if there were 5 rookies in the lineup. Just want some young blood if we lose we lose.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
I really wouldn't care if there were 5 rookies in the lineup. Just want some young blood if we lose we lose.
- NickA

It isn't going to be good if we are a lottery pick without a first. There is certainly time to turn it around but it is looking pretty bleak right now.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 9:15 AM ET
No doubt he is a step behind, guys that big usually are but they make up for it in some way. Lucic is by no means a speedster but if he isn't putting up points you can bet you're ass he is putting guys through the glass, crashing nets getting in peoples faces and just beating the living (frank) out of guys. People fear Lucic I am not so sure to many fear Clowe especially since if he does fight he doesn't go all out due to his concussion history.
- blizzzard


He did good against Glass and took plenty of shots as well. Seems fine to me from it. I like him but he is slow as a snail, needs to remove the refrigerator off his back. He has been pretty good on the PP for whatever that's worth cause our PP sucks. HE is better with the puck then I thought he would be. His contract blows though even though he is earning it more than Zajac.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:18 AM ET
He did good against Glass and took plenty of shots as well. Seems fine to me from it. I like him but he is slow as a snail, needs to remove the refrigerator off his back. He has been pretty good on the PP for whatever that's worth cause our PP sucks. HE is better with the puck then I thought he would be. His contract blows though even though he is earning it more than Zajac.
- NickA

I thought he did well in the Glass fight but he also could of ran away with that one but he took some punches and looked like he didn't want more and mutually stopped. Glass isn't that good of a fighter either he is like the new Zach Stortini . To me Clowe did what Clarkson usually did which was stand up for his team mates but after taking a few stopped throwing and kind of turned his head and waited for the refs to get in and luckily for him Glass didn't want anymore either.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 9:23 AM ET
It isn't going to be good if we are a lottery pick without a first. There is certainly time to turn it around but it is looking pretty bleak right now.
- blizzzard



They way we look now it looks like will be a lottery pick. Youth is the way to go in this league has been for 6 years. I thought this was the year Lou would take the chance on the young guys.
I don't feel like looking at everyone's roster but i have feeling they have more than 2 guys under 24 in just about every teams lineup. And if not the core of the team is probably 27-32 not 33-42....We have forgotten how to draft it would seem.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:25 AM ET
They way we look now it looks like will be a lottery pick. Youth is the way to go in this league has been for 6 years. I thought this was the year Lou would take the chance on the young guys.
I don't feel like looking at everyone's roster but i have feeling they have more than 2 guys under 24 in just about every teams lineup. And if not the core of the team is probably 27-32 not 33-42....We have forgotten how to draft it would seem.

- NickA

I wouldn't be against a new head scout the guy has been here long enough. It's like Buffalo getting rid of Ruff. He was good for them for a while but it was his time to go just like it's Conte's. We need a new brain in the organization someone who thinks the new game. Would of been nice to hire Brian Burke in the same type of non GM role that Calgary did just to have a second opinion and another good hockey mind.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
I wouldn't be against a new head scout the guy has been here long enough. It's like Buffalo getting rid of Ruff. He was good for them for a while but it was his time to go just like it's Conte's. We need a new brain in the organization someone who thinks the new game. Would of been nice to hire Brian Burke in the same type of non GM role that Calgary did just to have a second opinion and another good hockey mind.
- blizzzard



Yeah another set of eyes never hurts. Especially a guy not (frank)ing attached to every piece of garbage on the team...
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:30 AM ET
Yeah another set of eyes never hurts. Especially a guy not (frank)ing attached to every piece of garbage on the team...
- NickA

It's a great idea when you have a guy as loyal as Lou. Someone to let him know which players have the value to be loyal to like the Marty's and Elias' but not the fringe NHLers like Sal and Zid.
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Oct 14 @ 9:40 AM ET
I really wouldn't care if there were 5 rookies in the lineup. Just want some young blood if we lose we lose.
- NickA


Agreed.....every game I watch other teams youngsters against us like Monahan from Calgary play and play good and where are our young guys?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:45 AM ET
Agreed.....every game I watch other teams youngsters against us like Monahan from Calgary play and play good and where are our young guys?
- Gambi99

Young to Pete is 27 -28 so our young guy played in net last night
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 9:48 AM ET
Agreed.....every game I watch other teams youngsters against us like Monahan from Calgary play and play good and where are our young guys?
- Gambi99



Absolutely every game I watch I see a bunch of young guys playing. Even if say we were to dress Teddy just his speed alone would help open up space for his line mates.Doesn't even have to score to be useful we are so slow play anyone with some damn speed.
ElvisLemieux
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 08.08.2006

Oct 14 @ 9:53 AM ET
Young to Pete is 27 -28 so our young guy played in net last night
- blizzzard


Colorado went young a few years ago, developed their talent, and although its very early in the season, it looks like they are going to be competitive moving forward. I know Lou didn't want to rebuild with Marty in his last seasons, but this collection of veterans just don't think they are going to gel. Again, I hope I'm wrong. But it just looks like the wrong mix of speed.
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