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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
His NMC might have a big say in anything happening.
- ob18


Is it full NMC?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
Is it full NMC?
- funmaster18


yes, if it was anything else it'd be a limited NTC

http://www.capgeek.com/player/743
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
And Pavel Datsyuk continues to show why he is still the best player in the league. I hate that he lit up the Flyers, but man he is fun to watch.
- jmatchett383

seeing him and zetterberg talk together and dissect things on the bench after a shift is scary.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
yes, if it was anything else it'd be a limited NTC

http://www.capgeek.com/player/743

- ob18


Would rather just see Hartnell step it up. Flyers don't have much leverage in any deal for him especially when he's not playing well.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 13 @ 2:52 PM ET
Would rather just see Hartnell step it up. Flyers don't have much leverage in any deal for him especially when he's not playing well.
- funmaster18

He's had a rough year. When he gets back on track he is a player that will generate a lot of interest from teams.

With Simmonds being locked up and the severe lack of skill on the wing I dont know how much more time Hartnell has in Philly but he isn't the unmovable player people think he is. There are a lot of teams missing that type of player in their top 6.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:58 PM ET
He's had a rough year. When he gets back on track he is a player that will generate a lot of interest from teams.

With Simmonds being locked up and the severe lack of skill on the wing I dont know how much more time Hartnell has in Philly but he isn't the unmovable player people think he is. There are a lot of teams missing that type of player in their top 6.

- hereticpride


They're both signed through the 18-19 season and hartnells the one with a NMC

Of course Simmonds has a limited NTC, wouldn't have been a flyers extension without one.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 13 @ 3:01 PM ET
They're both signed through the 18-19 season and hartnells the one with a NMC
- funmaster18

He doesn't strike me as the type of guy to hold out if a team wants to make a change though. He wouldn't likely want to go to Edmonton or Columbus but I don't think he's going to nix any and every deal either.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 13 @ 3:03 PM ET
It pains me to say this because I have all the respect in the world for him but the dman who needs to sit is Timonen. He has clearly lost a step and just seems unable to defend without holding. Perhaps a contender who can afford to limit his minutes would be interested, but unless his play picks up, I just don't see it.

If they're not over .500 by January, I would look to move the following players for prospects and picks, assuming some are willing to waive no movement/trade clauses to go to a contender:
Timonen
Hartnell
Mezaros
Grossmann
Lacavalier
Emery

I would consider moving Streit, but I highly doubt anyone would take on his contract.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:18 PM ET
the eagles are just getting unwatchable just no defense at all
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 13 @ 3:23 PM ET
the eagles are just getting unwatchable just no defense at all
- 2Real

Ive seen better D in arena football, pathetic!!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:33 PM ET
Ive seen better D in arena football, pathetic!!
- BiggE

but i must say fowels is looking better than vick
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:38 PM ET
but i must say fowels is looking better than vick
- 2Real

im so done with vick bro
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
I pity you Eagle fans
I couldn't take being a Phillies and Flyers and Eagles fan right now
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:41 PM ET
I pity you Eagle fans
I couldn't take being a Phillies and Flyers and Eagles fan right now

- Winning

youre a cowboys fan i knew it
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 13 @ 3:44 PM ET
I pity you Eagle fans
I couldn't take being a Phillies and Flyers and Eagles fan right now

- Winning

Pain builds character
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 13 @ 3:45 PM ET
I pity you Eagle fans
I couldn't take being a Phillies and Flyers and Eagles fan right now

- Winning

I pity NFL fans in general.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 13 @ 3:48 PM ET
youre a cowboys fan i knew it
- Crimsoninja

haters gonna hate son
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
haters gonna hate son
- Winning

lol but why

youre like 19. you probably dont even remember their super bowls
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 13 @ 3:51 PM ET
Crazy when you think about skilled guys who just wake up one morning and don't have it anymore. I remember when the Lock out happened and the game changed the amount of great players became crap that was mostly a speed issue but the Eric Daze's and so on.
- blizzzard



personally i am giving mez more than 6 games before i conclude that he's eternally worthless... he doesn't get that consideration from many here.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
lol but why

youre like 19. you probably dont even remember their super bowls

- Crimsoninja


Bad parenting ?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
McGinn played better last night than Hartnell's played all season.
- JAKEw1234



prospects can get pretty fired up to prove their worth. doubt highly that it means he's a first line nhl winger who just somehow fell through the cracks.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
Bad parenting ?
- ob18



pretty evident
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
pretty evident
- -davies-

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 13 @ 4:05 PM ET

- Winning



yes
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
prospects can get pretty fired up to prove their worth. doubt highly that it means he's a first line nhl winger who just somehow fell through the cracks.
- -davies-

Didn't mean he is one, but if he can bring more heart, energy, and hard work than Hartnell, and produce good numbers, I wouldn't mind seeing Hartnell moved for our biggest need
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