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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:48 PM ET
Then who has been?

1. Coburn
2. Streit
3. Kimmo
4. Schenn
5. Grossmann
6. Mezzy

Atleast Schenn has done something. Mezzy getting Pp, lots of chances and has done jack poop

Who cares, the guy isn't near the dman he once was. He deserves to sit when the team is 1-4 and STRUGGLING. Changes have to be made.

You were the one that said to me a few months back that Gue would 100% be in the starting lineup day 1 for Mezzy or Grossmann so why do u have a problem with this?

- FLYERSROCK!


Don't put statements in my mouth. If you're going to attribute a statement to me, be accurate. If any defenseman deserves to sit it's Luke Schenn. He has not had a good start to the Season. He is seeing his ice time cut in key moments of games. Such as with the lead in the 3rd period of the Florida game. His ice time should be increased at that point in time, not decreased.

Meszaros is coming off multiple serious injuries, and has not played a lot of hockey in the last year or so. He has gotten steadily better each game since looking really bad and rusty in pre season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
We clearly disagree on Meszaros -- he has been...you know what? I won't be cruel. He won't be missed in the lineup.
- AllInForFlyers


So there's no chance that Gustafsson could struggle? Meszaros has been one the better defenseman on the team the last few games.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Oct 12 @ 6:50 PM ET
So there's no chance that Gustafsson could struggle? Meszaros has been one the better defenseman on the team the last few games.
- MJL

Flat out false
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 12 @ 6:51 PM ET
Grossmann has been playing extremely well past 2 games, him and Coburn have even excellent.
Schenn is the only other option and really he's done more right then wrong.
So who (frank)ing cares.
Gonna take out kimmo or Streit? Didn't think so

- FLYERSROCK!


i actually didn't think grossmann played so well against phoenix
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 12 @ 6:52 PM ET
So there's no chance that Gustafsson could struggle? Meszaros has been one the better defenseman on the team the last few games.
- MJL


What's your definition of struggling? I don't expect Erik Gustafsson to win the Norris Trophy tonight. I expect him to be what he is, at this stage of his career: Faster than Meszaros, a better puck carrier than Meszaros, and display better offensive instincts than Meszaros.

Will it be enough to keep him in the lineup? Will it be enough for the Flyers to win and start scoring goals?

Don't know. I just know that, again, sitting a third-pairing defenseman when you're 1-4 isn't an outlandish proposition, and Erik Gustafsson brings things to the table that Andrej Meszaros doesn't.

We'll see if it works or not. But they absolutely should be doing it.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:53 PM ET
Grossmann has been playing extremely well past 2 games, him and Coburn have even excellent.
Schenn is the only other option and really he's done more right then wrong.
So who (frank)ing cares.
Gonna take out kimmo or Streit? Didn't think so

- FLYERSROCK!

i would sit kimmo in a second he has been just as bad as the rest of them just cause he carries a 6 mil price tag doesn't mean he should get to play when his play hasn't been up to par
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:57 PM ET
i am just happy i get to watch the game live instead of DVRing tonight and watching later... always afraid to go on computer so i don't get game ruined.....
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 12 @ 6:57 PM ET
i would sit kimmo in a second he has been just as bad as the rest of them just cause he carries a 6 mil price tag doesn't mean he should get to play when his play hasn't been up to par
- flyer186

Only way the "sit" him is if there's an injury.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
anyone else tired of Kimmo. Coburn, Mez core
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
Only way the "sit" him is if there's an injury.
- Yosimar89

oh i no it wont happen...doesn't mean that it shouldn't tho
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
i am just happy i get to watch the game live instead of DVRing tonight and watching later... always afraid to go on computer so i don't get game ruined.....
- flyer186

With they way they've been playing DVring is the best way to go. After that stupid Rinaldo penalty that lead to the goal i knew it was over and just FF and saved myself the headache.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
What's your definition of struggling? I don't expect Erik Gustafsson to win the Norris Trophy tonight. I expect him to be what he is, at this stage of his career: Faster than Meszaros, a better puck carrier than Meszaros, and display better offensive instincts than Meszaros.

Will it be enough to keep him in the lineup? Will it be enough for the Flyers to win and start scoring goals?

Don't know. I just know that, again, sitting a third-pairing defenseman when you're 1-4 isn't an outlandish proposition, and Erik Gustafsson brings things to the table that Andrej Meszaros doesn't.

We'll see if it works or not. But they absolutely should be doing it.

- AllInForFlyers


Meszaros when healthy is a pretty decent offensive producer as a defenseman. it remains to be seen how Gustafsson does. But Gustafsson hasn't proven anything to state that he's better then Meszaros at anything. That remains to be seen.
What specifically does Gustafsson bring to the table that Meszaros doesn't?

And I'll again reiterate, that I have no problem with Gustafsson in the lineup. We need to find out what we have in him. The Flyers need to break in some young defenseman. And Gustafsson shows some promise.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
With they way they've been playing DVring is the best way to go. After that stupid Rinaldo penalty that lead to the goal i knew it was over and just FF and saved myself the headache.
- Yosimar89

lol the sad thing is my wife and i watch it 3 hrs after the game is over and still try not to do things to jinx the outcome
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
game time


GO FLYERS !!!!!!!
(i hope)
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 12 @ 7:11 PM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


Bump
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:13 PM ET
I'm hoping Rinaldo destroys Kronwall tonight.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
Couturier reminds me of a tall lanky Ron Sutter. Almost no offensive instincts. I really don't see him developing offensively.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 12 @ 7:17 PM ET
Couturier reminds me of a tall lanky Ron Sutter. Almost no offensive instincts. I really don't see him developing offensively.
- Pixote Andolini

He is 20 years old, he has literally hundreds of NHL games left to play before we can confidentially say he won't develop an offensive game.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Howard's pads are pretty cool.

That was retarded. Well done Ray.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:22 PM ET
THIS TEAM SU CKS
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:23 PM ET
What the hell was Grossmann doing? He could have been called for interference there.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:23 PM ET
Couturier reminds me of a tall lanky Ron Sutter. Almost no offensive instincts. I really don't see him developing offensively.
- Pixote Andolini

been saying that for years
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:24 PM ET
both dmen bellow the goal line wtf is that stupid positioning
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 12 @ 7:24 PM ET
How come no one is ripping the goalie's head off for that? Just curious...
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:29 PM ET
Looks like Voracek's back has been reinjured thanks to a non-called Kronwall crosscheck.
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