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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 12 @ 3:58 PM ET
Homer's all stars

JVR - Richards - Lupul
Jagr - Carter - Briere
Downie - Umberger - Versteeg
Carcillo - Powe - Gagne

Eminger - Eminger
Sbisa - Eminger
Eminger - S. Eminger

Bobrovsky
Bryzgalov

- feelingkettle



W/o the Briere, Pronger and Bryzgalov, we might have conceivably seen a team like this:

JvR - Giroux - Umberger
Hartnell - Carter - Lupul
Gagne - Richards - Read
Powe - Laughton - Upshall
Rinaldo

Sbisa - Timonen
Carle - Coburn
Grossmann - Meszaros

Bobrovsky


Imagine if the 1st-rounders from the Pronger/Versteeg trades had panned out into NHL players, particularly dmen? Ugh.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
it's not a "rumor", it's a hypothetical aimed at gauging the relative worth fellow fans attach to two players

you can chose not to participate, but that doesn't mean there's no point in asking/discussing it

- FlyerMike18


I did, which is why I said it wouldn't happen. Others can dream/get hopes up.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:01 PM ET
Time to watch Morin in his return to action.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 12 @ 4:01 PM ET
I did, which is why I said it wouldn't happen. Others can dream/get hopes up.
- ob18


feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:05 PM ET
W/o the Briere, Pronger and Bryzgalov, we might have conceivably seen a team like this:

JvR - Giroux - Umberger
Hartnell - Carter - Lupul
Gagne - Richards - Read
Powe - Laughton - Upshall
Rinaldo

Sbisa - Timonen
Carle - Coburn
Grossmann - Meszaros

Bobrovsky


Imagine if the 1st-rounders from the Pronger/Versteeg trades had panned out into NHL players, particularly dmen? Ugh.

- Tomahawk

Yeah...that team would probably not fit under the cap (I don't care enough to figure it out), but it's interesting to see how much talent has come and gone in trades or from not re-signing guys. I mean, aside from the defense, you could arguably field a pretty decent team with the people who are gone.

I for one am getting pretty sick of the constant roster turnovers, and I think it's one of the reasons why this team hasn't played like a team in quite a while.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
Well Morin in his 1st shift is on for a goal against.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
That's exactly what I was looking for....I was arguing with a friend about the JVR trade and he was telling me I said something I didn't....it's clear what my feeling was, and is
- KINGKENZO

these links eliminate the revisionist history...they also bare out that if we had some of our reg veteran posters - excluding myself- making the trades, we'd be better off
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
Well Morin in his 1st shift is on for a goal against.
- ob18

that's shift
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
Yeah...that team would probably not fit under the cap (I don't care enough to figure it out), but it's interesting to see how much talent has come and gone in trades or from not re-signing guys. I mean, aside from the defense, you could arguably field a pretty decent team with the people who are gone.

I for one am getting pretty sick of the constant roster turnovers, and I think it's one of the reasons why this team hasn't played like a team in quite a while.

- feelingkettle



I contend that they probably could have won a Cup by now w/ the original reload group from the earliest part of Homer's tenure.

So much serviceable talent was dumped since then due to a combination of cap reasons and to facilitate splashy moves... that initial squad had real chemistry and a come-from-behind identity. With Lavi at the helm reining in their off-ice activities, I'm thinking they could have been in a league w/ Chicago.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 4:21 PM ET
Fire Berube
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:30 PM ET
Flyers could throw in Hartnell, LOL.
- jstross

no one wants that useless plug
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:31 PM ET
Fire Berube
- Winning

it'll eventually happen once snider finds his true coach
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:31 PM ET
Well Morin in his 1st shift is on for a goal against.
- ob18

bust trade him
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yeah...that team would probably not fit under the cap (I don't care enough to figure it out), but it's interesting to see how much talent has come and gone in trades or from not re-signing guys. I mean, aside from the defense, you could arguably field a pretty decent team with the people who are gone.

I for one am getting pretty sick of the constant roster turnovers, and I think it's one of the reasons why this team hasn't played like a team in quite a while.

- feelingkettle

Well if this keeps going you can expect even more.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:34 PM ET
After 1

Moncton - 2
Rimouski - 2

Morin has an assist
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 12 @ 4:44 PM ET
Razor in tonight..Think we all figured that anyway.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:46 PM ET
After 1

Moncton - 2
Rimouski - 2

Morin has an assist

- ob18


Started out slow on those first few shifts (GA notwithstanding) but I think he's settling in.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
red wings poop lines

Henrik Zetterberg-Pavel Datsyuk-Todd Bertuzzi

Johan Franzen-Stephen Weiss-Justin Abdelkader

Daniel Cleary-Joakim Andersson-Daniel Alfredsson

Drew Miller-Luke Glendening-Jordin Tootoo


Niklas Kronwall-Jonathan Ericsson

Jakub Kindl-Danny DeKeyser

Kyle Quincey-Brian Lashoff


Jimmy Howard (starting)

Jonas Gustavsson

Healthy scratches: Mikael Samuelsson, Tomas Tatar, Brendan Smith
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 5:00 PM ET
Started out slow on those first few shifts (GA notwithstanding) but I think he's settling in.
- bmeltzer


Yup, took some time to knock the rust off
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 5:09 PM ET
Started out slow on those first few shifts (GA notwithstanding) but I think he's settling in.
- bmeltzer

Bill, do you think the flyers have a roster problem or a just needs time to mesh problem?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
Team struggling with offense and they call up these two guys? A grinder, and a speed guy.

Surprised Akeson or Straka didn't get a call for some creativity.

- Yosimar89


granted camp wasn't exactly thrilling but nothing in camp (went twice) or the preseason games made me think Staka is anywhere close to being ready for a NHL game but that's me
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
Losing Hartnell and Vinny is a blessing in disguise. This team needed a shakeup and without a trade this is the only way to get it.

I've been really disappointed in the players who just got new contracts. Simmonds looks terrible. Giroux isn't playing like an 8mil. a yr player.

I really think a shakeup of players will be needed as well. These guys aren't going to fit into a defense first system. In my opinion.

- Flyersgod


Vinny isn't the one I want to lose tho. he has probably been their best forward night in and out so far
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
Rosehill seeking revenge tonight against classless cleary?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 5:16 PM ET
Rosehill seeking revenge tonight against classless cleary?
- funmaster18

that would be awesome

"This is for Gagne!"
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 12 @ 5:17 PM ET
Started out slow on those first few shifts (GA notwithstanding) but I think he's settling in.
- bmeltzer

Scored a goal, 4-3 Rimouski
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