Even though the Rangers are poopting the bed, I wish we hired Vignault when he was on the market... I think he's such a good coach, I just think NYR's personnel are built to be a Torts team right now, and that's why he's struggling.

If the Devils had Vignault, I think we'd be a lot better... And I'd feel more confident in our prospect development. DeBoer's resume in Florida is abysmal

This team is the opposite of clutch...

we can pretend this is asphyxiation, right?

Glad i fell a sleep between periods. Sounds like another great defensive play lost us the game. Gotta love those experienced veterans.

“The winning goal was one thing but the two power play goals we gave up were the difference in the game,” DeBoer said.

Critical error here...

If you keep blaming defensive breakdowns for the game, it's like turning the game into a big ball of stress and pressure. If people forget hockey is a sport and supposed to be fun, if people forget that hockey should be exciting and you go on to score goals, then they play to "avoid losing" rather than to win.

This team has this attitude right now. Know why? CUZ THEY'RE TOO OLD! Get younger!

Kids love playing in the NHL because they want the thrill of scoring a goal!

NJ is so devoid of excitement right now. At least Kovy loved cheering a goal... geez.

Even though the Rangers are poopting the bed, I wish we hired Vignault when he was on the market... I think he's such a good coach, I just think NYR's personnel are built to be a Torts team right now, and that's why he's struggling.

If the Devils had Vignault, I think we'd be a lot better... And I'd feel more confident in our prospect development. DeBoer's resume in Florida is abysmal
- TheJerseyDevil1

Vignault doesn't like playing kids over vets either though....

“The winning goal was one thing but the two power play goals we gave up were the difference in the game,” DeBoer said.

Critical error here...

If you keep blaming defensive breakdowns for the game, it's like turning the game into a big ball of stress and pressure. If people forget hockey is a sport and supposed to be fun, if people forget that hockey should be exciting and you go on to score goals, then they play to "avoid losing" rather than to win.

This team has this attitude right now. Know why? CUZ THEY'RE TOO OLD! Get younger!

Kids love playing in the NHL because they want the thrill of scoring a goal!
- archromat

That's a great way to put it. I don't think Pete helps too much with his calm demeanor. I truly am thinking that Pete doesn't get them in good enough shape. Add in the fact we are old as poop and we simply can't keep up. Youth injects life into a team and we have enough veterans to play 2-3 rookies. But this will never happen with Lou and Pete.

Circle Oct 19 on your calendars... that might be the first win of the season for us.

At least you know the Devils have SOME excitement playing the Rangers.

That's a great way to put it. I don't think Pete helps too much with his calm demeanor. I truly am thinking that Pete doesn't get them in good enough shape. Add in the fact we are old as poop and we simply can't keep up. Youth injects life into a team and we have enough veterans to play 2-3 rookies. But this will never happen with Lou and Pete.
- NickA

The Gallagher Galchenyuk combo revitalized the Canadiens organization. Perfect example of this.

The Gallagher Galchenyuk combo revitalized the Canadiens organization. Perfect example of this.
- archromat

Was Galchenyuk taken the year after Larsson?

The Gallagher Galchenyuk combo revitalized the Canadiens organization. Perfect example of this.
- archromat

The flames the team who just beat us with a 19 year old scoring the winner as he catches two guys with 20 years of experience between them out of position. But let's keep going with experience they give us the best shot to win after all...

Was Galchenyuk taken the year after Larsson?
- blizzzard

Seem year as Yak I think...not positive.

I am just baffled by all the comments by management and the vets after every game they have no idea that they are the (frank)ing problem. Like these guys are the elephant in the room and probably only Larsson, Henrique, JJ, Tedenby know it. This is why it is so stupid to pay players who aren't young and never done anything for one great play off run. Salvador is a horrible player just Horrible. He handles the puck like a 12 year old house league kid. He pisses me off to know end. All he does his turn the puck over once he gets it and does that stupid leg kick thing every single time he is about to do anything with the puck like seriously wtf is that you look like an idiot doing it. Volchenkov has cement in his feet and head like what good is he when he can't even keep up and he can't move the puck either watching him is like watching Janssen if he where to play for 20 minutes a night.

The flames the team who just beat us with a 19 year old scoring the winner as he catches two guys with 20 years of experience between them out of position. But let's keep going with experience they give us the best shot to win after all...
- NickA

Look at all the successfull teams in the NHL the last few years. I don't really think any of them are old. All the top 10 players in the NHL are under 30 but hey lets see if we can get anymore guys over 30 and preferably over 35 if we can because they are the best players to have on the team. Am I the only one who also thinks Marty is a clear cut back up goaltender now ? yea he still makes big saves here and there but he doesn't have a clue where the puck is 90% of the time and just can't make the big saves in timely situations anymore if Schneider was in net last night we would of had our first W of the season no doubt at all.

Look at all the successfull teams in the NHL the last few years. I don't really think any of them are old. All the top 10 players in the NHL are under 30 but hey lets see if we can get anymore guys over 30 and preferably over 35 if we can because they are the best players to have on the team. Am I the only one who also thinks Marty is a clear cut back up goaltender now ? yea he still makes big saves here and there but he doesn't have a clue where the puck is 90% of the time and just can't make the big saves in timely situations anymore if Schneider was in net last night we would of had our first W of the season no doubt at all.
- blizzzard

The problem is not in net.Marty's been fine just like Cory they aren't getting enough help. Cory would of probably had the second goal but they would of scored shortly after that on the PP. The problem is the play in front of them. Could of won everyone of the past 3 games if there was a little more execution. But there isn't and the other team seems to always want it more.

The problem is not in net.Marty's been fine just like Cory they aren't getting enough help. Cory would of probably had the second goal but they would of scored shortly after that on the PP. The problem is the play in front of them. Could of won everyone of the past 3 games if there was a little more execution. But there isn't and the other team seems to always want it more.
- NickA

Marty was Shaky as (frank) last night. I am not saying he cost us the W he played well I am saying him playing well isn't good enough anymore. He looks confused. They could of potted a few more on those mad scrambles cause he just had no clue what was going on. Like I said he is still capable of winning games but he is now a fringe NHL starter. He just isn't able to make key saves when we desperatley need one to keep us in the game and that's not to say he didn't make some big saves but for him not its going to be more about when he makes those big saves instead of how often to Me Joey Mac outplayed him by a large margin. Everytime the puck came Marty's way I cringed. I know it's very early still but I think he will be hard pressed to get 20 wins this season.

In general we need to play the best players. Whether it be Cory, JJ, Gelinas, Or whoever we can't continue to play these old guys just because they have bled for this team. we keep this up and still don't have a win next week and the season could be over. I get everyone has soft spots for Marty but if he isn't the best guy he shouldn't be playing plain in simple and thats not factoring the fact we don't have a first this year.

Marty was Shaky as (frank) last night. I am not saying he cost us the W he played well I am saying him playing well isn't good enough anymore. He looks confused. They could of potted a few more on those mad scrambles cause he just had no clue what was going on. Like I said he is still capable of winning games but he is now a fringe NHL starter. He just isn't able to make key saves when we desperatley need one to keep us in the game and that's not to say he didn't make some big saves but for him not its going to be more about when he makes those big saves instead of how often to Me Joey Mac outplayed him by a large margin. Everytime the puck came Marty's way I cringed. I know it's very early still but I think he will be hard pressed to get 20 wins this season.
- blizzzard

Your nuts Marty had to face more rubber and more PP last not and we only lost by a goal. How you can say he is a fringe starter is beyond me. He is still better than many guys...Marty was the reason last night was even close we (frank)ing don't play defense. I wish we got the shots we allow other teams to take.

Your nuts Marty had to face more rubber and more PP last not and we only lost by a goal. How you can say he is a fringe starter is beyond me. He is still better than many guys...Marty was the reason last night was even close we (frank)ing don't play defense. I wish we got the shots we allow other teams to take.
- NickA

What do you mean by better has hasn't had great stats the last few years and that is not likely to change this year he is in the bottom 25-30 for NHL starters. I will agree that our PK last night was the worst I have ever seen it but to me he doesn't look good. I just don't know how to word it. He looks better then he is. At this point I would rather have a calm goalie who is going to play positionally instead of flopping all over the place. I am still saying he is capable of making highlight real saves but he will continue to have lapses in full 60 minute games he will looke good for 45-50 minutes and average for 10 and its that 10 minutes he is average that will kill us and we no the D isn't going to help him out at all in that 10 minutes he looks average.

What do you mean by better has hasn't had great stats the last few years and that is not likely to change this year he is in the bottom 25-30 for NHL starters. I will agree that our PK last night was the worst I have ever seen it but to me he doesn't look good. I just don't know how to word it. He looks better then he is. At this point I would rather have a calm goalie who is going to play positionally instead of flopping all over the place. I am still saying he is capable of making highlight real saves but he will continue to have lapses in full 60 minute games he will looke good for 45-50 minutes and average for 10 and its that 10 minutes he is average that will kill us and we no the D isn't going to help him out at all in that 10 minutes he looks average.
- blizzzard

He makes big saves still all the time he isn't shaky. Our play is what is shaky. Cory hasn't looked much better in his games either. So i don't understand why your bringing this up even it's the least of our worries.

He makes big saves still all the time he isn't shaky. Our play is what is shaky. Cory hasn't looked much better in his games either. So i don't understand why your bringing this up even it's the least of our worries.
- NickA

Cory was the only reason the Vancouver game was close from my understanding. Had Marty played that game or the Pittsburgh game we get shelled no doubt in my mind about that. Who has Marty PLayed so far the Oilers and the Isles and the Flames? not exactly as strong of teams as Pittsburgh and Vancouver. I am also not saying its all his fault. It starts with the D first and foremost but you can't tell me that Cory isn't quite a bit better then Marty and had he played 3-5 games we would have had a better chance at getting 1 win. There is a reason Marty wasn't even considered for team Canada even though they have one of the most questionable group of goalies right now and Schneider will be battling for the U.S team that has the Much stronger group of goalies.

Cory was the only reason the Vancouver game was close from my understanding. Had Marty played that game or the Pittsburgh game we get shelled no doubt in my mind about that. Who has Marty PLayed so far the Oilers and the Isles and the Flames? not exactly as strong of teams as Pittsburgh and Vancouver. I am also not saying its all his fault. It starts with the D first and foremost but you can't tell me that Cory isn't quite a bit better then Marty and had he played 3-5 games we would have had a better chance at getting 1 win. There is a reason Marty wasn't even considered for team Canada even though they have one of the most questionable group of goalies right now and Schneider will be battling for the U.S team that has the Much stronger group of goalies.
- blizzzard

Marty kept us in all the games he has started as well. You called him a fringe starter. He could still start for probably about 10 teams. I'm not an idiot i know Cory is clearly better at this point. But I also do not think if Cory played we would of won any of these games. Team is playing that poorly at the moment is all im saying. I know Cory's the better goalie and he will start more games it's inevitable. It'll probably be like 50 games for cory to martys 32. Be the most games Cory has ever started in the NHL if that happens.

Marty kept us in all the games he has started as well. You called him a fringe starter. He could still start for probably about 10 teams. I'm not an idiot i know Cory is clearly better at this point. But I also do not think if Cory played we would of won any of these games. Team is playing that poorly at the moment is all im saying. I know Cory's the better goalie and he will start more games it's inevitable. It'll probably be like 50 games for cory to martys 32. Be the most games Cory has ever started in the NHL if that happens.
- NickA

I hope that's how it works out. I think Lou needs to think long and hard and work a trade for Evander Kane

An infusion of hungry, fast youth. A capable coach with intensity. And holding the vets accountable for their poopty play as often as the kids. Those 3 things right there would put this ship on a better course. I'm gonna be so pissed if Salvador, Zids, and Volchenkov are starting on D next season.

An infusion of hungry, fast youth. A capable coach with intensity. And holding the vets accountable for their poopty play as often as the kids. Those 3 things right there would put this ship on a better course. I'm gonna be so pissed if Salvador, Zids, and Volchenkov are starting on D next season.
- FLdevilsFAN

Is this Sal's last year on his contract ? And hopefully Lou can ship Salvador at the deadline for a 2nd to some playoff team because we know none of the above will happen

An infusion of hungry, fast youth. A capable coach with intensity. And holding the vets accountable for their poopty play as often as the kids. Those 3 things right there would put this ship on a better course. I'm gonna be so pissed if Salvador, Zids, and Volchenkov are starting on D next season.
- FLdevilsFAN

I won't watch if all 3 are back. Only sal should be back if we cant get rid of them all. And it's only cause of his contract. Buyout Anton and stay away from Zid for the love of god.

An infusion of hungry, fast youth. A capable coach with intensity. And holding the vets accountable for their poopty play as often as the kids. Those 3 things right there would put this ship on a better course. I'm gonna be so pissed if Salvador, Zids, and Volchenkov are starting on D next season.
- FLdevilsFAN

yeah those 3 things would be nice. Would love to see Gelinas or Merril or both playing. If we lost with youth on the back end with the mistakes we are seeing it would be a little better. Sal has been playing for 11 years and he just abandons the front of the net in the 3rd period during a tied game....Come on man your suppose to be the captain. Also sick of watching Harold an AHL defensemen play and get PP time....He is so (frank)ing bad and i don't care what anyone says he is not good and has zero talent. Would rather Anton on the point on the PP at least his shot may actually get to the net...