any suspensions or dirty plays outside the NHL, do not factor into a suspension. The only thing that matters is whatever the fvck shanny had for breakfast and whether or not he had a good bowel movement.

This suspension is laughable. 3 games? 5k fine, nothing more is what it should have been. I'm not a Canuck or Shark fan, more of a neutral observer, and I'm not sure how the hell someone comes to that number of games for a hit that was partially from a player putting himself in a vulnerable situation, a hitter that showed no intent to target the head, no leaving his feet, or bringing his arms up, and no injury to the player who played his next regular shift. How does this add up to 3 games?
- Isles_since_6

i dunno man. All I see is Edler lining Hertl up for a hit and about a split second before contact, Hertl leans down to play the puck when Edler hits him. Head contact is made, so if the NHL wanted to suspend, I couldn't see more than 1 game. The contact to the head is incidental, 3 games is outrageous. Edler did not have time to pull up had he seen that he was going to make contact with the head....

Like it or not, after the hits on Mike Smith and Eric Staal, Edler is now a guy with a reputation, and isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt. Just like Duncan Keith likely won't, either.
- MartiniMan

Keith has already had the benefit of the doubt.

He got off easy on the elbow, and he got off way too easy on the Carter incident.

Keith has already had the benefit of the doubt.

He got off easy on the elbow, and he got off way too easy on the Carter incident.
- Fosco

Its cause he said he was sorry

Its cause he said he was sorry
- BlazinMike

Damnit, forgot about that. Edler needs to earn his manners!

i dunno man. All I see is Edler lining Hertl up for a hit and about a split second before contact, Hertl leans down to play the puck when Edler hits him. Head contact is made, so if the NHL wanted to suspend, I couldn't see more than 1 game. The contact to the head is incidental, 3 games is outrageous. Edler did not have time to pull up had he seen that he was going to make contact with the head....
- chompsey

I get that he made contact with the head, I was watching the game and initially cringed because I thought it was going to be more severe than it was (any potential injury) but when Hertl played his next shift and I watched the replay a few times (pvr) I could see Edler did not come at him high, didn't step forward or upwards through the hit, and I couldn't see any intent at all to go after his head. Since there was no injury on the play, and no intent, I can see wanting to punish him to make a statement but anything over a 5k fine is not fitting in this case. If the injury matters to the length of suspension as Shanny keeps saying it does, how come the lack of an injury here doesn't seem to apply?

Keep your head up or your gonna get Hertl.

Damnit, forgot about that. Edler needs to earn his manners!
- Nucker101

That's garbage.

Edler led the Canucks D in politeness last season.

Your view would be much different on this if Keith got 3 for the exact same play. Admit it.
- Nucker101

Keith has made a couple of bonehead plays that have cost him suspensions, unless he stays clean for the next 18 months he will have those two hits hanging over his head. I wouldn't like it, and I don't necessarily think Edler deserved what he got either, but guys like him and Keith now have a history, and have no one to blame but themselves for anything they get going forward.

Keith has made a couple of bonehead plays that have cost him suspensions, unless he stays clean for the next 18 months he will have those two hits hanging over his head. I wouldn't like it, and I don't necessarily think Edler deserved what he got either, but guys like him and Keith now have a history, and have no one to blame but themselves for anything they get going forward.
- MartiniMan

If it's a blatant elbow to the head of someone, then yes, they do only have themselves to blame. If it's a borderline (at worst) hit like Edler's last night then it could be a $5,000 fine or it could be another lengthy suspension. Shanaban's so inconsistent is what the problem is.

Keep your head up or your gonna get Hertl.
- moondawg

quote of the thread

If it's a blatant elbow to the head of someone, then yes, they do only have themselves to blame. If it's a borderline (at worst) hit like Edler's last night then it could be a $5,000 fine or it could be another lengthy suspension. Shanaban's so inconsistent is what the problem is.
- iknowbest

This is just a guess on my part, but I think the evidence is piling up that guys are getting hurt more often than not on these fly-by hits where the head is getting snapped to one side, and no one is going to get the benefit of the doubt on these types of hits.

Fisty

Edit: suck it nuckers you all.
- Yeti1181

Classy and from a ref.

Why should Hertl go into a non contact league? He's not even complaining or b**ching about the hit you f***ing dumb**.

Haha, 3 games for Edlers hit.

This fu(king league is turning into a Euro league. Here's a concept don't go into the boards reaching for a puck, when there is an opposing player lining you up.

This is a contact sport right? Hertl should either play in a non contact league or go into puck battle expecting to be hit.

And the icing rule is starting to become very noticeable in the speed of the game, it's like watch rec hockey. the dmen float back knowing they're going to get icing called, and it creates too many whistles. That rule basically removed an offensive portion of the game, and replaced it with floating. the game seems slower.
- moondawg

Classy and from a ref.
- Marwood

It's okay, he's cool.

Why should Hertl go into a non contact league? He's not even complaining or b**ching about the hit you f***ing dumb**.
- Zupes

Who the he!l are you? Go back to watching figure skating.

If you play in a contact league you learn to go into every puck battle expecting to be hit. It's not about complaining or crying, its about not getting hurt. He is showing his Czech league style of play. Keep it up and he'll end up in the dark room.

Name calling, on a forum, behind a keyboard, with an alias...Give me a break.

This is just a guess on my part, but I think the evidence is piling up that guys are getting hurt more often than not on these fly-by hits where the head is getting snapped to one side, and no one is going to get the benefit of the doubt on these types of hits.
- MartiniMan

After watching the "League of Denial" documentary the other night, I'm guessing the NHL was watching as head level contact applies to this league as well.

Who the he!l are you? Go back to watching figure skating.

If you play in a contact league you learn to go into every puck battle expecting to be hit. It's not about complaining or crying, its about not getting hurt. He is showing his Czech league style of play. Keep it up and he'll end up in the dark room.

Name calling, on a forum, behind a keyboard, with an alias...Give me a break.
- moondawg

He had you dead to rights. Hertl didn't complain & he didn't suspend Edler, Shanaban did. The kid merely picked his helmet up & skated to the bench.

To clarify: So you think that the Edler hit (which was directly to Hertl's head) wasn't punishable, or at the very least, worth 3 games for a repeat offender...then do you think Stuart deserved 3 games for the number he did on Nash?

Ugh. Shanahan. Such a clueless twat.

Why should Hertl go into a non contact league? He's not even complaining or b**ching about the hit you f***ing dumb**.
- Zupes

Well argued. Now back to your One Direction 3D DVD.

He had you dead to rights. Hertl didn't complain & he didn't suspend Edler, Shanaban did. The kid merely picked his helmet up & skated to the bench.

To clarify: So you think that the Edler hit (which was directly to Hertl's head) wasn't punishable, or at the very least, worth 3 games for a repeat offender...then do you think Stuart deserved 3 games for the number he did on Nash?
- Team_Teal

I think that all hockey players in the NHL need to play defensive hockey, ie, don't put yourself in a vulnerable position. Its a fast paced game, you go reaching for the puck like that in a contact sport, at the fast pace it is at, you will get clipped. He should have gone into that play expecting to be hit, or initiating the contact.

He had you dead to rights. Hertl didn't complain & he didn't suspend Edler, Shanaban did. The kid merely picked his helmet up & skated to the bench.

To clarify: So you think that the Edler hit (which was directly to Hertl's head) wasn't punishable, or at the very least, worth 3 games for a repeat offender...then do you think Stuart deserved 3 games for the number he did on Nash?
- Team_Teal

The hit wasn't directly to his head, it was to the shoulder. But I'll admit the intent was there and Edler chose to let the puck go by and was thinking head shot the whole way. It isn't the first time I've seen him attempt it either, I think 3 fit the crime. However I'd like to see more consistency with other nhl clubs, seems like since the Auger/Burrows incident the league seems intent on showing the Canucks who has the power.

Raffi Torres has been suspended 5 games for Alex Edler's hit on Hertl

That should not have been a suspension... as for the game...

You guys were out Burrows and Kassian who have both played really well against the Sharks (probably two of the only players). The next few match ups this season will be much closer games.

Hopefully we can get Torres, Havlat, and Burish back soon.

The hit wasn't directly to his head, it was to the shoulder. But I'll admit the intent was there and Edler chose to let the puck go by and was thinking head shot the whole way. It isn't the first time I've seen him attempt it either, I think 3 fit the crime. However I'd like to see more consistency with other nhl clubs, seems like since the Auger/Burrows incident the league seems intent on showing the Canucks who has the power.
- I-own_da-Northwest

That's bullpoop. You don't know his intent.

You're allowed to play the body if the puck is in the vicinity, which it is.

This is all on Hertl. He has his head down, and is leaning over reaching for the puck opening his body.

Edler has his elbow tucked, doesn't jump, and is preparing for a shoulder check, which it would have been had Hertl not leaned down and forward reaching for the puck.

Edler should not have to adjust his hit because Hertl has put himself in a vulnerable position, nor would he have been able to in such short notice.



Hell, there's even Hawks, Flames, and Sharks fans in here agreeing that it's a BS suspension.

That's bullpoop. You don't know his intent.

You're allowed to play the body if the puck is in the vicinity, which it is.

This is all on Hertl. He has his head down, and is leaning over reaching for the puck opening his body.

Edler has his elbow tucked, doesn't jump, and is preparing for a shoulder check, which it would have been had Hertl not leaned down and forward reaching for the puck.

Edler should not have to adjust his hit because Hertl has put himself in a vulnerable position, nor would he have been able to in such short notice.



Hell, there's even Hawks, Fames, and Sharks fans in here agreeing that it's a BS suspension.
- Fosco

All of this.

As I commented before, there's no "right of way" in the NHL. Edler barely moved a muscle and was drifting in a straight line to the sideboards. Hertl flat out ran into him, end of story.

Fisty

Edit: suck it nuckers you all.
- Yeti1181

You suck it - u too.