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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
I figured somone would bring that point up. Kimbo is a street brawler, MMA didn't work out for him...whatever...
The point is that I wish a few of our defensemen (not just Myers but mainly him) would think like a brawler would. I want them to play on the edge and break the rules. I want them to shank a guy with their stick and cause them to retaliate. Then when that induces a penalty I want them to laugh about how they got away with it.
Myers always gets the Chara comparison but I want Pronger or Weber.

- sambarugh


That just ain't his game....Never was. I think that was a big problem with Meyers last year, they asked him to bulk up, but it slowed hum down. The Sabres drafted him based on a certain style of play and then asked him to change it. I fault management.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
That just ain't his game....Never was. I think that was a big problem with Meyers last year, they asked him to bulk up, but it slowed hum down. The Sabres drafted him based on a certain style of play and then asked him to change it. I fault management.
- seedy


I fault Obama
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
I fault Obama
- hubie


Tyler Obama?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
I figured somone would bring that point up. Kimbo is a street brawler, MMA didn't work out for him...whatever...
The point is that I wish a few of our defensemen (not just Myers but mainly him) would think like a brawler would. I want them to play on the edge and break the rules. I want them to shank a guy with their stick and cause them to retaliate. Then when that induces a penalty I want them to laugh about how they got away with it.
Myers always gets the Chara comparison but I want Pronger or Weber.

- sambarugh

He definitely IMO needs to use his size, but I think the previous poster is right that maybe they arent being coached that way. Myers has been suspended for hitting before and he seems to get a penalty everytime he tries to be physical mainly because his hands and stick get so high up on every other player
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
He definitely IMO needs to use his size, but I think the previous poster is right that maybe they arent being coached that way. Myers has been suspended for hitting before and he seems to get a penalty everytime he tries to be physical
- sbroads24


that vison clicked right in my head and it seems a lot of his checks seem to come out kinda cross checkery ish esp when putting someone into the boards
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 10 @ 1:52 PM ET
He definitely IMO needs to use his size, but I think the previous poster is right that maybe they arent being coached that way. Myers has been suspended for hitting before and he seems to get a penalty everytime he tries to be physical mainly because his hands and stick get so high up on every other player
- sbroads24


I fault USA Hockey and Hockey Canada. They don't teach proper checking and when you are growing into a 6'8 frame what are you gonna do if you haven't been taught properly
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 10 @ 1:53 PM ET
that vison clicked right in my head and it seems a lot of his checks seem to come out kinda cross checkery ish esp when putting someone into the boards
- hubie

Yea agreed
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:54 PM ET
I fault Obama
- hubie


Agreed.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
Agreed.
- seedy

i blame hairy
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
I fault USA Hockey and Hockey Canada. They don't teach proper checking and when you are growing into a 6'8 frame what are you gonna do if you haven't been taught properly
- Stripes77


start new job yet?
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:12 PM ET
He definitely IMO needs to use his size, but I think the previous poster is right that maybe they arent being coached that way. Myers has been suspended for hitting before and he seems to get a penalty everytime he tries to be physical mainly because his hands and stick get so high up on every other player
- sbroads24


I think Myers is decently physical. People want a guy like Chara back there based on his size but hes not that. Maybe he grows into it who knows. I've been happy with his play so far this season. Would like to see him put some points up but that applies to the entire team.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:23 PM ET
I think Myers is decently physical. People want a guy like Chara back there based on his size but hes not that. Maybe he grows into it who knows. I've been happy with his play so far this season. Would like to see him put some points up but that applies to the entire team.
- Rally_Shots

I have said this for 2 years and got laughed at
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:26 PM ET
I think Myers is decently physical. People want a guy like Chara back there based on his size but hes not that. Maybe he grows into it who knows. I've been happy with his play so far this season. Would like to see him put some points up but that applies to the entire team.
- Rally_Shots


It's not size, it's attitude. Myers is closer to winning the Lady Byng than he is to punching a dude who is up all in the crease.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:27 PM ET
The problem with Myers is his contract. Plain and simple. At that money he has to be an All-world level player and he's not even in consideration for the Olympics and wouldn't make on All-star game if we had one.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:37 PM ET
It's not size, it's attitude. Myers is closer to winning the Lady Byng than he is to punching a dude who is up all in the crease.
- sambarugh


He usually keeps good body position in front of our net on the forward and is physical behind the net and on the boards. Everyone wants a guy like Pronger who will clear out anyone who stands there and somehow not get called for it but not everyone is going to become that.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
The problem with Myers is his contract. Plain and simple. At that money he has to be an All-world level player and he's not even in consideration for the Olympics and wouldn't make on All-star game if we had one.
- Buffalo-Sabres


This^
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
The problem with Myers is his contract. Plain and simple. At that money he has to be an All-world level player and he's not even in consideration for the Olympics and wouldn't make on All-star game if we had one.
- Buffalo-Sabres

And with that comes expectations, and with expectations comes ridiculous criticism
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
Can't help but wonder where Grigorenko would be now if he had been able to spend a year in the AHL the way Girgensons did.

Can they send him there next year?

sabres over jackets 4-2: Myers, Foligno, Vanek and STAFFORD with the goals


Edit: side note, if half of what I'm reading about this Possler kid is true than we're in for a treat when he finally goes to North America.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Sabres 3 - 1

Grigo's game DOES lack urgency. The bigger problem is that most of the rest of the team lacks it too. It's been a recurring problem in Buffalo since Briere/Drury left.

One word - LEADERSHIP
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Oct 10 @ 3:00 PM ET
And with that comes expectations, and with expectations comes ridiculous criticism
- sbroads24



The thing is, if he isn't meeting those expectations, then he is a detriment to the team. While Terry may not miss the 7 Million this year, its a huge amount of wasted cap space.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
He usually keeps good body position in front of our net on the forward and is physical behind the net and on the boards. Everyone wants a guy like Pronger who will clear out anyone who stands there and somehow not get called for it but not everyone is going to become that.
- Rally_Shots


That's exactly what I want, yes. And I don't even care if he get's called for it.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 10 @ 3:03 PM ET
Sabres 3 - 1

Grigo's game DOES lack urgency. The bigger problem is that most of the rest of the team lacks it too. It's been a recurring problem in Buffalo since Briere/Drury left.

One word - LEADERSHIP

- Pairo11


CBJ 4 - 0 BUF

Gabby with 2 PPG's, 1 from Foligno and 1 from Horton.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 3:06 PM ET
Sabres 3 - 1

Grigo's game DOES lack urgency. The bigger problem is that most of the rest of the team lacks it too. It's been a recurring problem in Buffalo since Briere/Drury left.

One word - LEADERSHIP

- Pairo11


I wonder if he is homesick or where his "place" is on the team
only asian/ russian player
no chemistry with anyone
maybe some language barrier
not getting his azz kissed non stop
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Oct 10 @ 3:07 PM ET
CBJ 4 - 0 BUF

Gabby with 2 PPG's, 1 from Foligno and 1 from Horton.

- sambarugh

I think Horton is DL'd until January.

But 3-0 still isn't good..
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Oct 10 @ 3:09 PM ET
I wonder if he is homesick or where his "place" is on the team
only asian/ russian player
no chemistry with anyone
maybe some language barrier
not getting his azz kissed non stop

- hubie

I think he's intimidated by the play in the NHL. He doesn't like getting his nose dirty in the corners and along the boards. I also think his confidence took a big hit once he realized that he just can't score the way he did in the Q.

He's either got to play through it or he'll be a bust.
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