Quality shots, and odd-man rushes where he had to make some difficult saves.

The quantity doesn't always tells you all.

You can have a "bombardment" of 45 shots, if they all are perimeter shots, or in the chest, does it mean the goalie had a stellar game?
- stinger67

You mean, like this?

can't expect a goalie to never give up rebounds. it's going to happen. you need defenceman to clear those rebounds. in all honesty, who had the pooptier go of it last night:

Price? or the defencemen?
- DoubleDown

Both.

But Price needs to bail out the d once in a while, and not after he's let 2 bad ones in, maybe before for a change.

And yes, they were bad ones, the TSN panel even pointed them out.

And yes, the team was flat from the get go.

Let me ask you this, if they switched goalies who wins that game?

Wouldn't mind seeing Pac with plek or Eller.
- WaterBoy

This.

Well if he's going to play like last night, I'd rather have a Pateryn or a Beaulieu in the lineup.
- Scabeh

agree on Pateryn, less so Beaulieu. would be more than happy to see Pateryn step in for Bouillon or Diaz.

At this point it is not an excuse but a fact, the defense sucks.
- Oilhab

know why the D sucks? Gorges and Bouillon are prominently involved. I like those two guys as much as anyone...and Bouillon probably more than most...but they can't play as much as they do if you want to win.

I agree with this.

Price needs to start winning games for the team instead of just not losing them... if that makes sense.
- Scabeh

Sure does, it is back to the era where a great goalie performance is the only way we could hope for a win becuase the team sucked so bad.

#stealwins #falsesenseofquality #8thplace #anythingcanhappen #ahwelost #learningexp #betternextyear

i just think heaping blame on the goalie ignores the team's true deficiency.
- DoubleDown

agreed - i dont think it would have really mattered who you had in net last night...we wouldn't have won that game. Only difference is the score may have been a lot worse.

I don't have any big issues with price's play this season so far - end of last season though........

At this point it is not an excuse but a fact, the defense sucks.
- Oilhab

It's a fact that it's being used as an excuse for him.

agree on Pateryn, less so Beaulieu. would be more than happy to see Pateryn step in for Bouillon or Diaz.
- DoubleDown

If the team struggles, I fully expect Pateryn to be take one of these 2 guys's spot

You mean, like this?


- Pecafan Fan

silverberg's face says "that went in?!?"

know why the D sucks? Gorges and Bouillon are prominently involved. I like those two guys as much as anyone...and Bouillon probably more than most...but they can't play as much as they do if you want to win.
- number_23

markov is broken and old

diaz doesn't belong on any good defense

Subban is trying to do it all by himself and ends up looking like a headless chicken

majority of the forwards are too small or slow or soft to make a difference defensively'
The team sucks

Both.

But Price needs to bail out the d once in a while, and not after he's let 2 bad ones in, maybe before for a change.

And yes, they were bad ones, the TSN panel even pointed them out.

And yes, the team was flat from the get go.

Let me ask you this, if they switched goalies who wins that game?
- pete26

Calgary, by a few goals.
i don't think the goals Price gave up were that bad. i agree that he didn't bail out the defence but that doesn't mean he gave up bad goals. anyway this is why i would prefer to see him start tonight. i think the only way he gets to the level we expect him to be at is by playing 9 out of every 10 games or so. not by giving him a night off after 3 starts in 9 days.

You mean, like this?


- Pecafan Fan

yep. That's not acceptable.

Though, every goalie gives up a stinker once in a while

See Quick, Jonathan.

It's a fact that it's being used as an excuse for him.
- Fredobbface

So the teams defense is good?

know why the D sucks? Gorges and Bouillon are prominently involved. I like those two guys as much as anyone...and Bouillon probably more than most...but they can't play as much as they do if you want to win.
- number_23

i have never understood why the team sees Gorges as anything but a third-pairing dman.

Both.

But Price needs to bail out the d once in a while, and not after he's let 2 bad ones in, maybe before for a change.

And yes, they were bad ones, the TSN panel even pointed them out.

And yes, the team was flat from the get go.

Let me ask you this, if they switched goalies who wins that game?
- pete26

he bailed them out a few times last night, so how many times does he have to bail them out to be considered "once in a while"?

This.
- Scabeh

And that

markov is broken and old

diaz doesn't belong on any good defense

Subban is trying to do it all by himself and ends up looking like a headless chicken

majority of the forwards are too small or slow or soft to make a difference defensively'
The team sucks
- Oilhab

Ok ok you win Price is the bestest the Vezina should juste be handed to him after all the stellar performances he's offered only to be wasted by the worst defense in NHL history.

i have never understood why the team sees Gorges as anything but a third-pairing dman.
- DoubleDown

When they were able to hold keep teams on the perimeter, he was a blocking machine.... that one year.... yes asp that means they spent alot of time in their end getting shot at.

Ok ok you win Price is the bestest the Vezina should juste be handed to him after all the stellar performances he's offered only to be wasted by the worst defense in NHL history.
- Fredobbface

Who the (frank) is saying that?

he bailed them out a few times last night, so how many times does he have to bail them out to be considered "once in a while"?
- Oilhab

More than 90.7% of the time

Eric Engels: Therrien and Habs drop the ball in Calgary
- EricEngels

this team is stale. plain and simple. their style of play and personnel.

markov is broken and old

diaz doesn't belong on any good defense

Subban is trying to do it all by himself and ends up looking like a headless chicken

majority of the forwards are too small or slow or soft to make a difference defensively'
The team sucks
- Oilhab

that's an optimistic take on this team...lol.

i have never understood why the team sees Gorges as anything but a third-pairing dman.
- DoubleDown

yeah... he's reliable and can log a lot of minutes but he really adds nothing in terms of offense and it's not like he does anything special in terms of gaining possession in the defensive zone.


basically on a team that sucks and takes a lot of penalties he blocks shots.

Calgary, by a few goals.
i don't think the goals Price gave up were that bad. i agree that he didn't bail out the defence but that doesn't mean he gave up bad goals. anyway this is why i would prefer to see him start tonight. i think the only way he gets to the level we expect him to be at is by playing 9 out of every 10 games or so. not by giving him a night off after 3 starts in 9 days.
- DoubleDown

Agreed. Whomever was in the net behind that team would have lost last night. That was a collective demonstration of suck.