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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
Can you list all #1 defesnseman currently in the NHL. I want to see your level of expectations.
- PhillySportsGuy


Shea Weber
Ryan Suter
Alex Pietrangelo
Erik Karlsson

evry1 else suxs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
Your afraid of the money part, arent you.
- youarewrong


Oui Oui
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd be open to that. Phaneuf plays well against some of the toughest competition out there.
- Jsaquella

Despite his douchiness, I'd like having Phaneuf. He's better than any Dman we have now.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
Can you list all #1 defesnseman currently in the NHL. I want to see your level of expectations.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm guessing there should be about 30 of them.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
I felt JVR had a concussion. Stumbled a little because of the expectations he set against Boston in the playoffs but I thought he was developing fine.

Didn't like the trade. I thought we sold extremely low. Didn't like the return.

Most of my thread-mates disagree.

- mayorofangrytown


I'm in your corner, bro.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
He was a nice compliment to Desjardins, but I'm not buying the shutdown stuff.
- PLindbergh31


Desjardins was a legit number one, though, at least for most of his time in Philly. Therien was a good, capable top four guy. Had a good, solid NHL career.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
His attitude is too casual to be a perennial threat... like Carter, Lupul or Wheeler, I'm sure he'll have a great season or two, but there's just not enough "hates-to-lose" in him to expect that he'll be a consistent threat.
- Tomahawk


I know. I always felt he'd be a very good 2nd line forward. That way he wouldn't have the expectations to play well every night. I don't think he could handle that burden.

Guys that you mentioned above all fit that mold too.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
What's the buzz today?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'm guessing there should be about 30 of them.
- youarewrong


The way I see it, some team shave multiples (Chicago has Keith/Seabrook) and some teams have none (Flyers USED to have 2, now none).
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'd be open to that. Phaneuf plays well against some of the toughest competition out there.
- Jsaquella



Me too.

Dion's a lightning rod for haters, but there's really not too much to dislike about his game.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
What's the buzz today?
- SMS4016



It's been an emotional day!
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
Desjardins was a legit number one, though, at least for most of his time in Philly. Therien was a good, capable top four guy. Had a good, solid NHL career.
- Jsaquella


Bundy is also an excellent color guy for radio. Man, he's got some great one liners.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
What's the buzz today?
- SMS4016


We're debating Byfuglien, Phaneuf, team nicknames and I'm fixing to have a beer.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
What's the buzz today?
- SMS4016


Byfuglien is the answer/not worth it.
L. Schenn is a top pair candidate/should be taken out back to the shed and shot
Timonen is a top pair defenseman/Timonen should follow right behind L.Schenn.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
The way I see it, some team shave multiples (Chicago has Keith/Seabrook) and some teams have none (Flyers USED to have 2, now none).
- jmatchett383


Yea. I just want to see what he feels constitutes a #1.

Is it a guy who scores a lot?
A guy who shuts stars down?
A guy who can do both?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
Desjardins was a legit number one, though, at least for most of his time in Philly. Therien was a good, capable top four guy. Had a good, solid NHL career.
- Jsaquella



A one-way defensive dman that doesn't get totally exposed with a huge workload is pretty valuable... if Schenn can become that kind of player, the Flyers have to be pretty content.

They just reaaalllly need to find the next Rico.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
Bundy is also an excellent color guy for radio. Man, he's got some great one liners.
- KGBflyers10


He's fantastic in that role. He's a funny dude.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
Byfuglien is the answer/not worth it.
L. Schenn is a top pair candidate/should be taken out back to the shed and shot
Timonen is a top pair defenseman/Timonen should follow right behind L.Schenn.

- jmatchett383



If you weren't on my side most days, I would hate you
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
Can you list all #1 defesnseman currently in the NHL. I want to see your level of expectations.
- PhillySportsGuy


The guys I see as # 1 currently are:

Chara
Keith
Weber
Doughty
Karlsson

Letang (1A)
Seabrooke (1A)
Suter (1A)

Soon to be # 1
Pieterangelo
OEL
Subban
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
A one-way defensive dman that doesn't get totally exposed with a huge workload is pretty valuable... if Schenn can become that kind of player, the Flyers have to be pretty content.

They just reaaalllly need to find the next Rico.

- Tomahawk


It'd be awesome if Hagg could be that some day. Hell, even if Hagg could be Kim Johnsson, it'd be a nice thing to have.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
Is it just me or is the 2014 UFA list deep with talent? I don't think it would be aweful if at the deadline the Flyers dropped a lot of high priced players to make room for some of these guys.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
He's fantastic in that role. He's a funny dude.
- Jsaquella


Most ex hockey players have a good sense of humor.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'm in your corner, bro.
- 77rams

Good! I don't think there's enough of us to fill a row boat though.

Sad thing is we won't feel any satisfaction when everyone wants to trade Luke Schenn and JVR is lighting the lamp consistently and putting on his playoff face in T.O. We'll just be angrier.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
I felt JVR had a concussion. Stumbled a little because of the expectations he set against Boston in the playoffs but I thought he was developing fine.

Didn't like the trade. I thought we sold extremely low. Didn't like the return.

Most of my thread-mates disagree.

- mayorofangrytown

We park our cars in the same garage
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
Is it just me or is the 2014 UFA list deep with talent? I don't think it would be aweful if at the deadline the Flyers dropped a lot of high priced players to make room for some of these guys.
- youarewrong


Cut that list in half by the end of the year. Most guys will re-sign
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