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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
At $3.5 million per, yes, I feel that his contract outweighs his on-ice value.

As for me being negative, fair enough. I just feel like I have different opinions of some aspects of the team compared to the majority in here and bring them up for discussion.

If you prefer a daily Giroux circle-jerk (when he finally starts playing well again), that's just not my cup of tea.

- bradleyc4


Hey, I enjoy what you post -- seriously. Analytics and honest assessment of performance is what we need more of, not less of.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
You did. I didn't say blocked shots are bad, nor have I ever. I said if you're leading the league in blocked shots, it's an issue. It means the opposition has the puck a lot more than your team, when you're on the ice. That's not a good thing.
- bradleyc4



Exactly what I'm referring to.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:56 PM ET

- PLindbergh31



AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
I would like to take a poll. Who here thinks the Flyers need another 3rd line winger?
- youarewrong


HELLO!

DING DING DING DING DING DING
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
Exactly what I'm referring to.
- MJL


And exactly where you're line of thinking is wrong/differs from mine.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
Hey, I enjoy what you post -- seriously. Analytics and honest assessment of performance is what we need more of, not less of.
- AllInForFlyers


Thanks, and likewise.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
Looks like my bookshelf. With LOTR & Hobbit on one side and about 50 Star Wars books on the other. I read for entertainment, not knowledge or hidden meanings... lol.
- youarewrong



i read a lot of fantasy too, i was just looking for a photo that only showed a few books in order to humiliate the ninja.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 10 @ 12:58 PM ET
Let's also take a poll on if they feel the Flyers need a defenseman. Looking to improve the team doesn'tmake trading one player of the roster, add up to having to replace 2 players.
- MJL


IF THE FLYERS ALREADY HAVE A NEED FOR A 3RD LINE PLAYER, AND THEY TRADE ANOTHER 3RD LINE PLAYER, HOW MANY 3RD LINE PLAYERS WILL THEY NEED?

1st grade math MJL. Can you figure it out?

If you flip to the back of the book it tells you the answer is 2.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
i read a lot of fantasy too, i was just looking for a photo that only showed a few books in order to humiliate the ninja.
- -davies-

Here's a pic of his bookshelf, taken from my phone camera.



/absolutelynottrue
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
And exactly where you're line of thinking is wrong/differs from mine.
- bradleyc4



give up now
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
IF THE FLYERS ALREADY HAVE A NEED FOR A 3RD LINE PLAYER, AND THEY TRADE ANOTHER 3RD LINE PLAYER, HOW MANY 3RD LINE PLAYERS WILL THEY NEED?

1st grade math MJL. Can you figure it out?

If you flip to the back of the book it tells you the answer is 2.

- youarewrong

The back of my book has Appendices.

*goes to Appendix N*

*confers with davies regarding it on the Reading thread*
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
give up now
- -davies-



I started writing a response to that and nuked it.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Here's a pic of his bookshelf, taken from my phone camera.



/absolutelynottrue

- Flyskippy



dang it that's exactly the image i had in my mind

you win this round, flyskippy
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
IF THE FLYERS ALREADY HAVE A NEED FOR A 3RD LINE PLAYER, AND THEY TRADE ANOTHER 3RD LINE PLAYER, HOW MANY 3RD LINE PLAYERS WILL THEY NEED?

1st grade math MJL. Can you figure it out?

If you flip to the back of the book it tells you the answer is 2.

- youarewrong


What if they got third line players back in the deal? Huh?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 10 @ 1:00 PM ET

The question is: Can this mix of talent (and there is talent) be put into a system where it can be successful?

- johndewar


Let's just say that I have significant questions about that.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
give up now
- -davies-


The only flaw in my argument.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
Rinaldo: "I consider Lappy my mentor now. Just in the last few days he's given me all sort of pointers I never even thought about"
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
dang it that's exactly the image i had in my mind

you win this round, flyskippy

- -davies-

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
Let's just say that I have significant questions about that.
- AllInForFlyers


I think we all do after the org basically just put most (if not all) of the blame at the feet of the coach.

There's talent here but it's not meshing or, worse, won't ever mesh, regardless of the coach/system/whatever.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
IF THE FLYERS ALREADY HAVE A NEED FOR A 3RD LINE PLAYER, AND THEY TRADE ANOTHER 3RD LINE PLAYER, HOW MANY 3RD LINE PLAYERS WILL THEY NEED?

1st grade math MJL. Can you figure it out?

If you flip to the back of the book it tells you the answer is 2.

- youarewrong

why are you fighting with MJL...Youll never win you know lol

still dont want fat ass buff though...his a liability on and off the ice.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
Byfuglien has always had that issue.
- MJL


And he has always produced. His production was down last year and people attributed it to coming into camp over weight. If Buff is at his best game at just over what must players weight are then that is fine for buff as long as he is still producing. To me his weight is a non-issue. If the Flyers dont like it, they could address it.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
Let's just say that I have significant questions about that.
- AllInForFlyers

The answer is, "No, fold the team." Only way to change the culture.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
Has Labi been interviewed since being fired yet?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
And he has always produced. His production was down last year and people attributed it to coming into camp over weight. If Buff is at his best game at just over what must players weight are then that is fine for buff as long as he is still producing. To me his weight is a non-issue. If the Flyers dont like it, they could address it.
- youarewrong


He finished (FINISHED!) last season at 302 lbs.

Forget about what he came in at at camp.

He finished the season at 302 lbs.

As he gets older, explain how that gets better.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
why are you fighting with MJL...Youll never win you know lol

still dont want fat ass buff though...his a liability on and off the ice.

- PhillaBully


If you dont fight ignorance, it will rule you. I will not be ruled by ignorance.
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