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OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:43 PM ET
Callahan is a third line player?
- MidnightMarauder

I've said it before and I'll say it once again, I have no problem having a team full of Ryan Callahan's. He embodies everything a hockey player should be.
Iamnumber27
New York Rangers
Location: Nash is the Rangers Crosby
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:43 PM ET
Can you imagine the proverbial sh!t storm that will take place if this team is out of it by the Olympics?
- MidnightMarauder

Eek, looking likely too... but it'd be good to dump some players before the deadline and start 14/15 season brand spanking new
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:04 PM ET
I think so... a great 3rd liner, but he isn't a goal scorer and not a 2nd line guy for me. I also compare him to other captains and think he is a little overrated unfortunately
- Iamnumber27

This might be the first time I've heard this actually. I agree to a point that Callahan is a great third line player on a deep team but he certainly can score goals. Consider this: Callahan's career goals-per-game rate is 0.30. The following players all have similar rates in their respective careers to date.
Loui Eriksson - 0.30
Nathan Horton - 0.34
Jamie Benn - 0.31

I would guess that each of those players are considered at least 2nd line talent.

Also, the guy he is compared to most often statistically and with regards to their style of play, Dustin Brown, is at 0.28.

Since first and second line players are expected to contribute offensively I would say that Callahan produces up to reasonable expectations for a second line player.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:06 PM ET
Just saying, it's the curse of Scott Arniel....get him the hell out of here now!!
Iamnumber27
New York Rangers
Location: Nash is the Rangers Crosby
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 10 @ 6:09 PM ET
This might be the first time I've heard this actually. I agree to a point that Callahan is a great third line player on a deep team but he certainly can score goals. Consider this: Callahan's career goals-per-game rate is 0.30. The following players all have similar rates in their respective careers to date.
Loui Eriksson - 0.30
Nathan Horton - 0.34
Jamie Benn - 0.31

I would guess that each of those players are considered at least 2nd line talent.

Also, the guy he is compared to most often statistically and with regards to their style of play, Dustin Brown, is at 0.28.

Since first and second line players are expected to contribute offensively I would say that Callahan produces up to reasonable expectations for a second line player.

- gkmkiller

Can't argue with that I guess
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
One positive to take away from Tuesday night's debacle in San Jose. We were the first team to score more than one goal against the Sharks this year.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:22 PM ET
Rewind to opening night: Martin Hanzal hammers Derek Stepan with a clean hit near the bench. Nash, despite not being noted as a fighter, immediately went to confront Hanzal and dropped the gloves with him.

So when Nash gets hit, and knocked out of the game, no one does anything about it aside from Asham kind of sniffing around and then Boyle kind of roughing Stuart up. All I have to say is WTF.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:25 PM ET
I don't think you can overstate the disadvantage the Rangers are at starting the first full month on the road for the second year in a row. It can't be easy physically or mentally to be out of your element full time for the month. They need to be just ok this month so they aren't completely buried. And if they do, the team building they do on this meander through the league will pay dividends as these season goes on.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
Rewind to opening night: Martin Hanzal hammers Derek Stepan with a clean hit near the bench. Nash, despite not being noted as a fighter, immediately went to confront Hanzal and dropped the gloves with him.

So when Nash gets hit, and knocked out of the game, no one does anything about it aside from Asham kind of sniffing around and then Boyle kind of roughing Stuart up. All I have to say is WTF.

- gkmkiller

It is a problem
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
I'd say earliest we see him back in action is next Saturday against Jersey. I think they play three games from tonight until that game.

What has me concerned is not when he will return rather how long he will stay in the lineup when does return. Concussions are so difficult to gauge and apparently it won't take much for Nash to be taken out of the game.

- MidnightMarauder

I was I was thinking the same thing as far as most positive result, I think it's a good sign that he was able to fly so quickly
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
It is a problem
- TPC

Is Nash not liked in the room or something?
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:27 PM ET
Midnight meet Cranny...discuss.
- B2B76

I think he's aware
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
Is Nash not liked in the room or something?
- gkmkiller

I don't know...I hope it wasn't a realization that shyt our best player is out, we have no chance....so lets just go through the motions.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
You went from declaring them cup champions and offensive powerhouses a month ago to not winning a game come on now
- mighty13duck

I've been a long time fan, I get discouraged sometimes, when healthy they are contenders for sure
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:34 PM ET
This is false Cranford and Gio all mentioned it before whether they were joking may be another story but they believed the Rangers are top in the league
- mighty13duck

Being contenders isn't proclaiming the Cup, there are more than a half dozen other teams that can win, playing the 2nd most playoff games in the past 2 years helps a long way, It's the Isles fans proclaiming their return to glory after the 8th place finish
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:37 PM ET
I also don't get playing your top playmaker with a third liner (Pyatt) and a rookie playing in only his second career game.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:41 PM ET
I also don't get playing your top playmaker with a third liner (Pyatt) and a rookie playing in only his second career game.
- TPC

Hoping Fast scores his first two NHL goals tonight. And just since you said this, watch Pyatt get one too.
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
I also don't get playing your top playmaker with a third liner (Pyatt) and a rookie playing in only his second career game.
- TPC

Because he's slow and not up to speed after his inexplicable holdout.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:44 PM ET
Hoping Fast scores his first two NHL goals tonight. And just since you said this, watch Pyatt get one too.
- gkmkiller

I would happily eat crow
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
Because he's slow and not up to speed after his inexplicable holdout.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I haven't been watching him closely, didn't realize he looked slow out there.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
I would happily eat crow
- TPC

I've got some good crow recipes if you need one. I've had to eat plenty of it myself over the years.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 6:53 PM ET
I haven't been watching him closely, didn't realize he looked slow out there.
- TPC

He does. Naturally he needs a little more time to get into game condition.
pcjr307
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.13.2007

Oct 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
Rewind to opening night: Martin Hanzal hammers Derek Stepan with a clean hit near the bench. Nash, despite not being noted as a fighter, immediately went to confront Hanzal and dropped the gloves with him.

So when Nash gets hit, and knocked out of the game, no one does anything about it aside from Asham kind of sniffing around and then Boyle kind of roughing Stuart up. All I have to say is WTF.

- gkmkiller


Glen I couldn't believe it myself. You're getting killed, at least stick up for your top forward, who cares if you get thrown out or they go on a long power play. There is no excuse for it.

I know people had different opinions on that goal, I was one who didn't care for it and I thought that was another point where they could have gone out and had a fight or line someone up and nothing again. Show a frankin pulse at least, ridiculous.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Oct 10 @ 7:10 PM ET
Glen I couldn't believe it myself. You're getting killed, at least stick up for your top forward, who cares if you get thrown out or they go on a long power play. There is no excuse for it.

I know people had different opinions on that goal, I was one who didn't care for it and I thought that was another point where they could have gone out and had a fight or line someone up and nothing again. Show a frankin pulse at least, ridiculous.

- pcjr307

Agree on both accounts. They have to show more than that in that game.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Oct 10 @ 7:17 PM ET
Rewind to opening night: Martin Hanzal hammers Derek Stepan with a clean hit near the bench. Nash, despite not being noted as a fighter, immediately went to confront Hanzal and dropped the gloves with him.

So when Nash gets hit, and knocked out of the game, no one does anything about it aside from Asham kind of sniffing around and then Boyle kind of roughing Stuart up. All I have to say is WTF.

- gkmkiller


Reminds me of the Canucks stanley cup playoffs vs. the Bruins, AV is one laid back dude.
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