Why? I can care less what they pay him. How is he a 4 or 5 Dman? I once was saying the same thing you are but do you want your 4 or 5 dman getting outmuscled and turning over the puck more often than not? He has been flat put awful during the first three games. Nobody notices it bcs Capuano and Goring sing the kids praises which is hysterical. Most overrated player on this team.
- Cptmjl

But ideally, if he is playing as 4 or 5 dman, getting half the minutes hes getting now and matching up not against the other teams top players you think he is still going to get out muscled? If playing the Rags, Nash would out muscle him but if the Rags 3rd liner is say... Zuccerello you think hes getting outmuscled? Not to mention, he is averaging around 25mins thru the first 3 games. Thats a ton... Thats top defensman minutes. He blocks a ton of shots and usually is pretty sound on defense. I dont listen to Butch and especially not Cappy... I listen to Thompson and Weight and Ive never heard either of them say anything negative about him.

But to each his own... Keep bashing him cuz if the Isles didnt have him, you would miss him.

Hickey is garbage. Im sorry but hes Hillen 2.0
- mighty13duck

Too funny..

I loved Hillen

I just don't think amac is a good player and brings little to the table...he had four turnovers in the first period...with that beings said i'd still take him over strait, hickey and Carkner. amac is a place holder until the kids are ready....for better or worse
- Dan Petriw

I agree and have said for a while that Amac isn't a good player. He was a depth signing from an era when we were one of the least talented teams in the league. That said, he excels at virtually nothing. He's a nice guy as an injury fill in but as this team improves, he shouldn't even be considered. In the case of Hickey, the kid has the potential to be a pp qb, which is what he was originally drafted to be. Considering he's only entering his second NHL season a little slack needs to be cut for him when considering who to scratch out these guys mentioned. Still, we know Amac is a club favorite and is likely to hang on to his spot for a while.

Xxkeaner17xX

Hickey is garbage. Im sorry but hes Hillen 2.0
- mighty13duck

3/4 of the defensive corps is garbage, but he's less trashy than Amac...at least with Hickey there is a core skillset that can be improved upon. Amac has been playing over his head for over 3 years now.


Xxkeaner17xX

I really didn't think he was that terrible. He just wasn't overly noticeable. I've always been a fan of both Nielsen and Bailey. Spartarti paints with broad strokes fairly often. I love when the collection of homers on here start spouting shat about how they knew all along and the rest of us are a bunch of lemmings. Quite the contrary.
- Cptmjl

I disagree strongly.. like I said to me he was the direct caus of both tieing goals in the first 2 games and was giving the puck away like his name was Bruno.

Hickey is garbage. Im sorry but hes Hillen 2.0
- mighty13duck

not even close to accurate

This day and age, that can be a bad word to the wrong person, you should remove it from your vocab.. Just a tip, you can tell me to go (frank) myself, it is a word I have seen guys get banned over, just ask a ref.
- bixll

I won't tell you to go f yourself. If i get banned for it so be it. It'd be the first time a mod payed attention to this thread in some time and if it was to ban me for using that word in the sense I say they deserve a slap on their back for a job well done. It'd be about as ridiculous as Ek's current front page blog. Almost but not quite as ridiculous.

But ideally, if he is playing as 4 or 5 dman, getting half the minutes hes getting now and matching up not against the other teams top players you think he is still going to get out muscled? If playing the Rags, Nash would out muscle him but if the Rags 3rd liner is say... Zuccerello you think hes getting outmuscled? Not to mention, he is averaging around 25mins thru the first 3 games. Thats a ton... Thats top defensman minutes. He blocks a ton of shots and usually is pretty sound on defense. I dont listen to Butch and especially not Cappy... I listen to Thompson and Weight and Ive never heard either of them say anything negative about him.

But to each his own... Keep bashing him cuz if the Isles didnt have him, you would miss him.
- Bags502

Um no i wouldn't and neityher would you probably. You're overvaluing in at best number 6 dman on ANY team. He gets outmuscled by any line on any team. Really watch the guy play. I love when people say he is a shot blocker. When? Incidentally maybe? You're entitled to your opinion but yopu are WAY off base when you say I'd miss him. I can guarantee I wouldn't. I'm a little more knowledgable of the game than you think. He isn't offering something that's flying over my head or that I'm missing.

I agree and have said for a while that Amac isn't a good player. He was a depth signing from an era when we were one of the least talented teams in the league. That said, he excels at virtually nothing. He's a nice guy as an injury fill in but as this team improves, he shouldn't even be considered. In the case of Hickey, the kid has the potential to be a pp qb, which is what he was originally drafted to be. Considering he's only entering his second NHL season a little slack needs to be cut for him when considering who to scratch out these guys mentioned. Still, we know Amac is a club favorite and is likely to hang on to his spot for a while.

Xxkeaner17xX
- keaner17

And the growth of this team will be stunted for ridiculously stupid reasons once again if that's the case.

Um no i wouldn't and neityher would you probably. You're overvaluing in at best number 6 dman on ANY team. He gets outmuscled by any line on any team. Really watch the guy play. I love when people say he is a shot blocker. When? Incidentally maybe? You're entitled to your opinion but yopu are WAY off base when you say I'd miss him. I can guarantee I wouldn't. I'm a little more knowledgable of the game than you think. He isn't offering something that's flying over my head.
- Cptmjl

Miss Amac?
*gasp*
Sure, like I miss Andy Hilbert!


Xxkeaner17xX

I just don't think amac is a good player and brings little to the table...he had four turnovers in the first period...with that beings said i'd still take him over strait, hickey and Carkner. amac is a place holder until the kids are ready....for better or worse
- Dan Petriw

Agreed, i find it hysterical that people somehow miss this guys lapses? He is so blatantly bad at times. It's like they go on Goring's interpertation of the game. He was facking awful in last nights drubbing of the Yotes and that's a game we won 6-1!

Miss Amac?
*gasp*
Sure, like I miss Andy Hilbert!


Xxkeaner17xX
- keaner17

That was a pretty lame statement. Like you Bags but that one was a bit out there

And the growth of this team will be stunted for ridiculously stupid reasons once again if that's the case.
- Cptmjl

I'd like to think that one of Pedan, Reinhart, Mayfield or even Pullock will step in next year. If we could sign a top pairing guy, that would leave no space for Amac.


xxkeaner17xx

I'd like to think that one of Pedan, Reinhart, Mayfield or even Pullock will step in next year. If we could sign a top pairing guy, that would leave no space for Amac.


xxkeaner17xx
- keaner17

That's a big "if" from where I'm sitting.

I won't tell you to go f yourself. If i get banned for it so be it. It'd be the first time a mod payed attention to this thread in some time and if it was to ban me for using that word in the sense I say they deserve a slap on their back for a job well done. It'd be about as ridiculous as Ek's current front page blog. Almost but not quite as ridiculous.
- Cptmjl

How does that word relate to doing anything well.. Whatever, I did not report you, I don't like the word, it and many others should be removed from the language that people use in 2013. It was just a tip.

That was a pretty lame statement. Like you Bags but that one was a bit out there
- Cptmjl

Amac, to me, is one in a long list of players that we Isles fans have overvalued simply because we've become to accustomed to mediocrity over the years. If you get used to seeing a crap talent level, eventually anyone that looks average or better with the other crappy players suddenly is valued as 'decent'. For his price, Amac has been fine over the last couple of years, but we're an improving team and he's precisely the type of guy we need to upgrade if we want to become realistic contenders.

Xxkeaner17xX

I'd like to think that one of Pedan, Reinhart, Mayfield or even Pullock will step in next year. If we could sign a top pairing guy, that would leave no space for Amac.


xxkeaner17xx
- keaner17

Waive or trade strait. Sign Amac to a two year deal and let him play as a five or six d man and sign Girardi.

How does that word relate to doing anything well.. Whatever, I did not report you, I don't like the word, it and many others should be removed from the language that people use in 2013. It was just a tip.
- bixll

Thanks. I'll try not to use it on here. Not something I'll lose sleep over.

How does that word relate to doing anything well.. Whatever, I did not report you, I don't like the word, it and many others should be removed from the language that people use in 2013. It was just a tip.
- bixll

People need to get over themselves. The 'word' simply means 'slow' but because it was applied in a way people don't like, folks suddenly want it removed.

Watch the media blitz on the Redskins team name. It's laughable considering a poll was done a few years ago that showed most native Americans were supportive of the team keeping the name and didn't find it insulting at all. But it only takes one or two who find a way of getting insulted by a blade of grass to make enough noise to suddenly get the attention of other bleeding hearts.

I suppose folks of Scandinavian descent should be asking the name "Vikings" to be removed.

Xxkeaner17xX

Um no i wouldn't and neityher would you probably. You're overvaluing in at best number 6 dman on ANY team. He gets outmuscled by any line on any team. Really watch the guy play. I love when people say he is a shot blocker. When? Incidentally maybe? You're entitled to your opinion but yopu are WAY off base when you say I'd miss him. I can guarantee I wouldn't. I'm a little more knowledgable of the game than you think. He isn't offering something that's flying over my head.
- Cptmjl

Ok sorry... Guess im dead wrong. He accidentally or incidentally lead the league in shot blocks (or was close to the top). Im not over-valueing him. Tell me right now who is better then AMac? Who is replacing him. If you can find someone that is better, hands down better then replace him.

But I dont view Hickey as being better or having more potential. There arent any prospects that are ready, really ready besides Donovan... Reinhart needs more time, De Haan needs a season where he doesnt get hurt, Pedan, Pullock etc. all need more time before they are ready.

All Im trying to say is if he was out 4 or 5 dman and we had a legit top pair guys, I dont think anyone would be bashing AMac this hard. And Im not going to miss him if he is replaced by someone who is better but he gets injured and we start dressing Carkner for him... I think we'd all be missing him... thats what I meant by if we didnt have him.

Amac, to me, is one in a long list of players that we Isles fans have overvalued simply because we've become to accustomed to mediocrity over the years. If you get used to seeing a crap talent level, eventually anyone that looks average or better with the other crappy players suddenly is valued as 'decent'. For his price, Amac has been fine over the last couple of years, but we're an improving team and he's precisely the type of guy we need to upgrade if we want to become realistic contenders.

Xxkeaner17xX
- keaner17

I can care less what he gets paid. they can pay him a buck fifty($1.50)a season and I'd say dump him. Not good is not good. I get your whole if you watch crap you get accustomed to it theory but if you think this guy is a decent dman you're either not paying attention or you really aren't that knowledgable of the game. He's been flat out terrible at times in only three games.

That was a pretty lame statement. Like you Bags but that one was a bit out there
- Cptmjl

I meant miss him if he gets hurt and we replace him with Carkner... Not miss him cuz Im a diehard AMac fan... If there is someone better that is ready by all means replace him... In a few years when the kids are rdy he will be gone and I wont bat an eye at it... But right now there is no one to take his spot. Thats what I meant by he would be missed... this year, not long term.

Can't decide what makes me happier
The isles winning 6-1
Or
The Rags getting exploited that they're actually an overrated team, destroyed 9-2, and a rookie getting 4 goals with one between the legs
- Danformo

Either way, it's WIN WIN.

Ok sorry... Guess im dead wrong. He accidentally or incidentally lead the league in shot blocks (or was close to the top). Im not over-valueing him. Tell me right now who is better then AMac? Who is replacing him. If you can find someone that is better, hands down better then replace him.

But I dont view Hickey as being better or having more potential. There arent any prospects that are ready, really ready besides Donovan... Reinhart needs more time, De Haan needs a season where he doesnt get hurt, Pedan, Pullock etc. all need more time before they are ready.

All Im trying to say is if he was out 4 or 5 dman and we had a legit top pair guys, I dont think anyone would be bashing AMac this hard. And Im not going to miss him if he is replaced by someone who is better but he gets injured and we start dressing Carkner for him... I think we'd all be missing him... thats what I meant by if we didnt have him.
- Bags502

I understand your point. Like i said I had this same opinion where I'd say he's a decent 5/6 but I say if someone sucks I don't want them on my team. To me he sucks. Spread that time over the rest of the backend. Give more minutes to other players. I love when they sell us the AMAC and Hamonic duo as being one of the best on the league, it's hysterical. He made a few blatant tape to tape passes to the opposing team coming out of our zone last night. He got outmuscled/hustled just about every time behind our net. Like i said we'll agree to disagree but I really think you may need to pay close attention to his game?

At the expense of who though?
- mighty13duck

Grabner, duh!