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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:47 AM ET
I'm hoping we do what Columbus has done recently. I really like what they have done in terms of rebuilding.
- jaumiller


Trade Vanek for a CBJ Rick Nash type return? Id be ok with that.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:47 AM ET
Who would we replace him with though ??
- jaumiller

Devine.. does it matter? if he isn't getting the job done why keep him.. it is like keeping the annoying girlfriend around just because you think you can't do any better. when you keep her it ruins your chance at finding a great girl
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Oct 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
Devine.. does it matter? if he isn't getting the job done why keep him.. it is like keeping the annoying girlfriend around just because you think you can't do any better. when you keep her it ruins your chance at finding a great girl
- IndianaSabresFan

Good point
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Oct 10 @ 9:50 AM ET
Trade Vanek for a CBJ Rick Nash type return? Id be ok with that.
- ImThatGuy

Exactly. I want prospects that will have an immediate impact.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:53 AM ET
Exactly. I want prospects that will have an immediate impact.
- jaumiller


Dubinsky,Anisimov,Erixon and a 1st rd pick is what CBJ got. I would take that for Vanek in a heart beat.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:58 AM ET
Dubinsky,Anisimov,Erixon and a 1st rd pick is what CBJ got. I would take that for Vanek in a heart beat.
- ImThatGuy

i would take half of that for vanek
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
Dallas is a team that has a rich farm team I wouldnt mind grabing a few from.
STL
Phx- could use a top end name
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 10 @ 10:42 AM ET
Dallas is a team that has a rich farm team I wouldnt mind grabing a few from.
STL
Phx- could use a top end name

- hubie

they wont trade for vanek and they dont need Miller.. dallas is out of the question
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 10 @ 10:45 AM ET
Dallas is a team that has a rich farm team I wouldnt mind grabing a few from.
STL
Phx- could use a top end name

- hubie


I have a feeling Vanek would retire before playing for Ruff again.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
but cab... for what? ... to let darcy handle a first overalll draft pick?... that is insane
- rapperray

Darcy does not address the talent for the draft . Kevin Devine does now . The last couple of years he has shown himself to be quite capable.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
Darcy does not address the talent for the draft . Kevin Devine does now . The last couple of years he has shown himself to be quite capable.
- Maximum Signal

i would say it appears that he has shown himself to be capable.. we need a few more years to say that he is capable.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
they wont trade for vanek and they dont need Miller.. dallas is out of the question
- IndianaSabresFan


just sayin...... thanks for ruining my day
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
i would take half of that for vanek
- IndianaSabresFan



I wouldn't.

Vanek is a special player, and I do believe that the other 29 GM's believe that, as well.

The Sabres should clean up at the trade deadline.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
I wouldn't.

Vanek is a special player, and I do believe that the other 29 GM's believe that, as well.

The Sabres should clean up at the trade deadline.

- Powerslave


Even with no extension in place, history at the deadline would suggest that a guy like Vanek will get at least
a) a solid roster player >25 in age)
b) a first round pick (though it will probably be lower than what we got from Minny)

Could possibly even get a 1st for Miller (though its more likely you get a prospect and goalie in return)
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Oct 10 @ 11:30 AM ET
Even with no extension in place, history at the deadline would suggest that a guy like Vanek will get at least
a) a solid roster player >25 in age)
b) a first round pick (though it will probably be lower than what we got from Minny)

Could possibly even get a 1st for Miller (though its more likely you get a prospect and goalie in return)

- Sabresfan-365



If we believe what that blowhard Bucky Gleason has to say, per Vanek's associates, it's all but a done deal that he's going to Minnesota on July 1st.

Hopefully that doesn't hurt his trade value, but it shouldn't. Hopefully there's a few teams willing to get into a bidding war for him at the deadline.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
Even with no extension in place, history at the deadline would suggest that a guy like Vanek will get at least
a) a solid roster player >25 in age)
b) a first round pick (though it will probably be lower than what we got from Minny)

Could possibly even get a 1st for Miller (though its more likely you get a prospect and goalie in return)

- Sabresfan-365



Look at Iggy a 1st a higher end prospect and a mid level prospect and van is what 5 years ish younger. So a 1st and a top end Prospect are well within reach. I would prefer two top end prospects as my reasearch and scout team find little value in the late 1st.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
If we believe what that blowhard Bucky Gleason has to say, per Vanek's associates, it's all but a done deal that he's going to Minnesota on July 1st.

Hopefully that doesn't hurt his trade value, but it shouldn't. Hopefully there's a few teams willing to get into a bidding war for him at the deadline.

- Powerslave


Even if that is true, i still think you could get a decent return for him. San Jose gave up a roster player and a 1st for 2 months of Campbell (yes I know it was Bernier but at the time we didn't hate him as much).
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
If we believe what that blowhard Bucky Gleason has to say, per Vanek's associates, it's all but a done deal that he's going to Minnesota on July 1st.

Hopefully that doesn't hurt his trade value, but it shouldn't. Hopefully there's a few teams willing to get into a bidding war for him at the deadline.

- Powerslave


WHy does he want to go somewhere and be a 2nd like lWer?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
Look at Iggy a 1st a higher end prospect and a mid level prospect and van is what 5 years ish younger. So a 1st and a top end Prospect are well within reach. I would prefer two top end prospects as my reasearch and scout team find little value in the late 1st.
- hubie



The fact that he's likely to be the best skater available at the deadline also helps. If enough teams get desperate, you could rip someone off pretty badly.
Powerslave
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Oct 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
WHy does he want to go somewhere and be a 2nd like lWer?
- hubie



He may feel that he could put that team over the top.

Adding him to that lineup sure makes it look quite formidable.

And that slug Heatley will be gone, so there's that.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
The fact that he's likely to be the best skater available at the deadline also helps. If enough teams get desperate, you could rip someone off pretty badly.
- Sabresfan-365


very true
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
WHy does he want to go somewhere and be a 2nd like lWer?
- hubie


At his age, I doubt he'll be a 1st line winger for much longer. Any team that gives him a long term deal better have a solid back up or someone who is just as good but younger (i.e Parise)
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Oct 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
The fact that he's likely to be the best skater available at the deadline also helps. If enough teams get desperate, you could rip someone off pretty badly.
- Sabresfan-365



I think the Sabres offer him one more contract, just to say, "well, we tried", and then deal him to the highest bidder.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think the Sabres offer him one more contract, just to say, "well, we tried", and then deal him to the highest bidder.
- Powerslave


If the right offer comes along I could see them dealing Ehrhoff as well.
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