Younger established guy like oooohhhhh iiii dddooooonnnttt kknnooooow OREILLY
- Yeti1181

Ask French and how it went me and him last year when we were in favour of offering up Kadri or Gardiner+ for O'Reilly.

I would still offer up either one, plus another asset for O'Reilly!


... yeah except for that cap issue.

and the money...never forget the money
- Symba007

oh i wont.. thought that was just an accepted truth

Ive been called a lot worse than a Coke Machine
- Bigzby

You Pepsi machine!

I have seen the boy play live, I don't see it.. AHLer for years.
- bixll

He looked like a deer in the head lights in his first game the other night. He looked petrified out there...

Carlyle can suck a bag of Richards

Does anyone hear actually have any evidence of Carlyle dissing Gardiner?
- MapleLeafsFTW

Carlyle invited a bunch of people over to watch Twilight, eat Haagen-Daz and braid each others' hair.

Gardiner was not invited.

A native Canadian woman went to the market to buy some rugs for her kids (two sets of twin boys) to play on.

She ended up buying a hippopotamus rug and two bear rugs. She placed one of the older twins and one of the younger twins on the hippopotamus rug, and the other two kids on the bear rugs.

So the sons of the squaw on the hippopotamus were equal to the sons of the squaw on the other two hides.
- Atomic Wedgie

Geometry humour - you got it all.

Ask French and how it went me and him last year when we were in favour of offering up Kadri or Gardiner+ for O'Reilly.

I would still offer up either one, plus another asset for O'Reilly!


... yeah except for that cap issue.
- Aetherial

Stupid cap

The same stuff was said about Kadri Colin. I spent many nights here and days here argueing the pros of Kadri...and it was met with these at many a turn :
- mykokes

The sad thing is that all of our top tier prospects have to endear the constant scrutiny. How many times did Kadri have a mic in his face asking him about his future in Toronto. They are just kids too, that's one advantage about the smaller market teams.

Carlyle can suck a bag of Richards

Does anyone hear actually have any evidence of Carlyle dissing Gardiner?
- MapleLeafsFTW

It's not Carlyles' fault that Gardiner has had a slow start. He's just a bit shaky.. I wouldn't worry too much what is being speculated. Carlyle outwardly said that Gardiner was one of the best players on the ice in game 5 and 6 during the playoffs.

He mentioned he struggled quite a bit after his concussion. I pretty sure Carlyle doesn't "hate" the kid for playing poorly - this isn't high school.

Carlyle invited a bunch of people over to watch Twilight, eat Haagen-Daz and braid each others' hair.

Gardiner was not invited.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh (frank), I didn't realize it was that serious.

The same stuff was said about Kadri Colin. I spent many nights here and days here argueing the pros of Kadri...and it was met with these at many a turn :
- mykokes

I dont know about that, because I was part of most of those convos if you recall...many people felt that Kadri just didnt have it in him to be a legit, full time NHL scorer...I havnt found a person on here yet to say that Gardiner doesnt have the talent, its just that the Leafs have too many offensive Dmen and he might be the victim of a trade because of it.

My wild guess?

Liles.
- Atomic Wedgie

nope he'd have to clear waivers

It's not Carlyles' fault that Gardiner has had a slow start. He's just a bit shaky.. I wouldn't worry too much what is being speculated. Carlyle outwardly said that Gardiner was one of the best players on the ice in game 5 and 6 during the playoffs.

He mentioned he struggled quite a bit after his concussion. I pretty sure Carlyle doesn't "hate" the kid for playing poorly - this isn't high school.


- A_Tree

I hate him when he plays poorly why wouldn't RC?

It's not Carlyles' fault that Gardiner has had a slow start. He's just a bit shaky.. I wouldn't worry too much what is being speculated. Carlyle outwardly said that Gardiner was one of the best players on the ice in game 5 and 6 during the playoffs.

He mentioned he struggled quite a bit after his concussion. I pretty sure Carlyle doesn't "hate" the kid for playing poorly - this isn't high school.


- A_Tree

I think you're right. But Carlyle's ego can get in the way sometimes.

nope he'd have to clear waivers
- zazzle

no he wouldnt. there is no re-entry waivers anymore

thing is.. he wont because of cap restraints

The sad thing is that all of our top tier prospects have to endear the constant scrutiny. How many times did Kadri have a mic in his face asking him about his future in Toronto. They are just kids too, that's one advantage about the smaller market teams.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Exactly. We all know what tactics Toronto media likes to dream up for juicy stories and rumors. Except that when these opinions surface everyone pulls the alarm, runs around with their head cut off.

Not literally. (AW, for you)

I hate him when he plays poorly why wouldn't RC?
- Bigzby

He's a grown ass man and (hopefully) a professional!

That lineup is a joke but so are the avalanche. Thank God.
- Bigzby

He's the avalanche GM?

no he wouldnt. there is no re-entry waivers anymore

thing is.. he wont because of cap restraints
- Dozzer

Which will be a problem with most/any trade discussions involving Toronto this year...they just aint got any room.

I dont know about that, because I was part of most of those convos if you recall...many people felt that Kadri just didnt have it in him to be a legit, full time NHL scorer...I havnt found a person on here yet to say that Gardiner doesnt have the talent, its just that the Leafs have too many offensive Dmen and he might be the victim of a trade because of it.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I think that what happened with Kadri is a bit more similar than you are suggesting. My impression was that people thought Kadri had the offensive tools as well but it was a question of his defensive game, which is the same situation with Gards. Maybe Kadri's offense was a little more questioned as you are suggesting though.

He's the avalanche GM?
- BestRapperAlive

100% Christians on that team. Tebow is the equipment manager too.

I dont know about that, because I was part of most of those convos if you recall...many people felt that Kadri just didnt have it in him to be a legit, full time NHL scorer...I havnt found a person on here yet to say that Gardiner doesnt have the talent, its just that the Leafs have too many offensive Dmen and he might be the victim of a trade because of it.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I'll admit I was never a supporter, but I did believe that he would improve - just not on Toronto.

I was wrong and we're probably wrong about Gardiner.

BUT!

The fact that we have quite a few offensive defensemen on the team makes for a potentially legitimate rumor...

He's a grown ass man and (hopefully) a professional!
- A_Tree

He's a hockey coach. Close enough I guess.

He's the avalanche GM?
- BestRapperAlive

assistant GM and coach

Exactly. We all know what tactics Toronto media likes to dream up for juicy stories and rumors. Except that when these opinions surface everyone pulls the alarm, runs around with their head cut off.

Not literally. (AW, for you)
- A_Tree

It's also kind of our fault for reading the ridiculous articles that they publish as well. Generates them money, so why wouldn't they keep doing it?

I wonder how much money cbc, or the Toronto Sun make off of something like this...