Not to sound like sour grapes but of the 7 goals scored against the Sabres he's been on the ice for 4 of them. Has one assist.

The boy doesn't understand defense at all. It's surprising because he was very responsible in Jr.
- bloatedmosquito

Are we talking about Hodgson? SOB better pull it together. I only picked a BUF player for my fantasy team because he is 1st line and 1st pp unit.

So I'm driving through Prince Edward County, and I see a sign at the front of a farm: Talking Dog For Sale...."
- Atomic Wedgie

Good one Wedgie

Gardner can barely play in the NHL, Myers can barely play top minutes right now. Little bit of a difference
- sbroads24

Except in the NHL playoffs it seems

Wow, you guys are about is nieve is Edmonton was with Hemsky. Gardiner will be LUCKY to fetch you a 2nd round pick. Lucky.

Gudbranson, Dumba - gimme a break. These are high end draft picks with high end potential...Gardiner has one good stretch of games 1.5 years ago and now he fights for ice time and is constantly in the dumps with Carlyle....I think a 2nd may even be a stretch...

I seem to remember these unrealistic expectations for return in Edm when they thought Hemsky would fetch a first or 2nd + prospect...

Be realistic.
- BodyCheckRadio

Oh lord. a past his prime Kaberle got us a second, a first round pick, and a former first round prospect.

Gardiner has terrific PM skills. Teams will line-up for him. They saw what he could do in the playoffs.

You're delusional if you think a guy that's only 23 with his skill and his cheap contract is near worthless.

Are we talking about Hodgson? SOB better pull it together. I only picked a BUF player for my fantasy team because he is 1st line and 1st pp unit.
- markmark

Yes, Hodgson.
He'll get his points but will be a minus player by seasons end.

Current projection: G 0 / A 27 / - 81

I really hate the media.

All of this Gardiner trade talk stems from HNIC saying teams have asked about Gardiner.
- RogerRoeper

Agreed. It's turned into "teams calling" to "Carlyle hates Gardiner" to "Leafs shopping gardiner"


Mackenzie didn't really want to talk about gardiner.... brought up other names - Fraser and Gunner.

Yes, Hodgson.
He'll get his points but will be a minus player by seasons end.

Current projection: G 0 / A 27 / - 81
- bloatedmosquito

he can be -1000 if he wants to. Not a category in my pool.

He just needs POINTS!

Agreed. It's turned into "teams calling" to "Carlyle hates Gardiner" to "Leafs shopping gardiner"


Mackenzie didn't really want to talk about gardiner.... brought up other names - Fraser and Gunner.
- burn

Fraser does make sense. He isn't going to fetch much, but I can see a lot of teams wanting him.

McClements wife about to pop a baby..He's likely out for tonight...



Great timing women.. ......

Yeah like all the talk that because of puck possesssion stats, the Leafs will be bottom 5 in the NHl this season.

And this, because of two guys who we lost that took much smaller roles last season and the team made the playoffs. When they had more prominent roles (Grabovski/Macarthur) the Leafs were bottom 5
- RogerRoeper

EXACTLY. When Grabbo & Mac had bigger on the roles prior to last season, the Leafs kept missing the playoffs. Last year they had diminished roles the Leafs make the playoffs. Let's do the math, the proof is in the pudding. Leafs won't miss Grabbo or Mac.

McClements wife about to pop a baby..He's likely out for tonight...



Great timing women.. ......
- Fruitcakenipple

She only thinks about herself.

McClements wife about to pop a baby..He's likely out for tonight...



Great timing women.. ......
- Fruitcakenipple

ya.. but a woman gave birth to him, so you should be thanking women

She only thinks about herself.
- RogerRoeper

Typical woman...

EXACTLY. When Grabbo & Mac had bigger on the roles prior to last season, the Leafs kept missing the playoffs. Last year they had diminished roles the Leafs make the playoffs. Let's do the math, the proof is in the pudding. Leafs won't miss Grabbo or Mac.
- GCHonda

Yup. It's quite an embarrassing argument. The Leafs were far better with both on the 3rd line than as top 6 forwards.

There was actually a blog on here saying due to possession stats, the Leafs were worse than Calgary

ya.. but a woman gave birth to him, so you should be thanking women
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Thanking a woman only leads to trouble down the road...

McClements wife about to pop a baby..He's likely out for tonight...



Great timing women.. ......
- Fruitcakenipple

What else is new

Thanking a woman only leads to trouble down the road...
- Fruitcakenipple

INDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

EXACTLY. When Grabbo & Mac had bigger on the roles prior to last season, the Leafs kept missing the playoffs. Last year they had diminished roles the Leafs make the playoffs. Let's do the math, the proof is in the pudding. Leafs won't miss Grabbo or Mac.
- GCHonda

Agreed..May look good on other teams but didn't fit on Leafs going forward..

Raymond for under a million is a better Macarthur.

ya.. but a woman gave birth to him, so you should be thanking women
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Source?

She only thinks about herself.
- RogerRoeper

She needs to understand HOCKEY COMES FIRST!!!! Have the baby tomorrow !!

Yes, Hodgson.
He'll get his points but will be a minus player by seasons end.

Current projection: G 0 / A 27 / - 81
- bloatedmosquito

He's playing with Thomas " I don't know what back checking is" Vanek.

But Hodgson has looked very bad the 1st 3 games

Raymond for under a million is a better Macarthur.
- RogerRoeper

poopty... cause Leafs are not paying him under $1M

Raymond for under a million is a better Macarthur.
- RogerRoeper

Raymond is better than Mac PERIOD!!!

Raymond is better than Mac PERIOD!!!
- GCHonda

looks like it right now, but its a long season