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oopsb13
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.02.2010

Oct 8 @ 11:23 PM ET
I know its early but Grabs tied for the lead in points with OV and 4 Isles in top 30 in scoring. Just saying
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Oct 8 @ 11:26 PM ET
Isles capitalized on their chances tonight. Didn't love that they were outhit over 2-1. Didn't think the score was a dictation of how the first two periods went. But thrilled they won 6-1. I'd like to stop hearing a complaint about Neilsen or Regin please. Look like two legitimate 2 and 3 centers right now.

Defense I thought did a nice job keeping coyotes to outside tonight. Phoenix had a lot more zone time than the isles did the first 35 minutes of the game.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Oct 8 @ 11:50 PM ET
I know its early but Grabs tied for the lead in points with OV and 4 Isles in top 30 in scoring. Just saying
- oopsb13



Grabs is a first line winger, its that simple. He makes other team's dman play cautious in their own zone for fear of the breakaways
oopsb13
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.02.2010

Oct 9 @ 12:19 AM ET
Grabs is a first line winger, its that simple. He makes other team's dman play cautious in their own zone for fear of the breakaways
- Danformo


Iv liked how Grabs. JT and Baily have looked the last two games when they have been on the ice together. Great puck retrieval and creativity. I know its hard after a win but Okposo looks terrible on the first line. New line ideas?

Grabs-JT- Baily
Moulson-Frans- Okposo
Clutter-Regin- Nelson
Martin-CC-CM

PMB just waive his a$$ hes looked absolutly usless out there. Soft on the puck, doesnt throw the body. He just looks disintersted. I know Howie was saying hes said hes having a hard time getting used to the new team but honeslty hes a pro this isnt rocket science.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Oct 9 @ 12:40 AM ET
Iv liked how Grabs. JT and Baily have looked the last two games when they have been on the ice together. Great puck retrieval and creativity. I know its hard after a win but Okposo looks terrible on the first line. New line ideas?

Grabs-JT- Baily
Moulson-Frans- Okposo
Clutter-Regin- Nelson
Martin-CC-CM

PMB just waive his a$$ hes looked absolutly usless out there. Soft on the puck, doesnt throw the body. He just looks disintersted. I know Howie was saying hes said hes having a hard time getting used to the new team but honeslty hes a pro this isnt rocket science.

- oopsb13


Neilsen, grabner and bailey had 3 points each playing together tonight. Not sure breaking them up is a good idea. Neilsen and grabner have 11 combined points in 3 games
Islesfan28
New York Islanders
Location: Your Parent's Basement, NY
Joined: 08.14.2006

Oct 9 @ 7:47 AM ET
Neilsen, grabner and bailey had 3 points each playing together tonight. Not sure breaking them up is a good idea. Neilsen and grabner have 11 combined points in 3 games
- Isles316


Grabs-Neilsen-Bailey is really starting to click, I wouldn't mess with them at all!!!

Won the game 6-1? I can't wait to see everyone rip apart Capuano for this one!!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 9 @ 7:50 AM ET
Grabs-Neilsen-Bailey is really starting to click, I wouldn't mess with them at all!!!

Won the game 6-1? I can't wait to see everyone rip apart Capuano for this one!!

- Islesfan28

Capuano sucks balls
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 9 @ 7:57 AM ET
Neilsen, grabner and bailey had 3 points each playing together tonight. Not sure breaking them up is a good idea. Neilsen and grabner have 11 combined points in 3 games
- Isles316

I hear you and it makes sense but if you watch that fourth goal it makes me want Bailey on that first line even more. Bailey checks Dman behind net strips him of the puck like he was AMAC and passes to Grabs to Tavares, sweet goal. WTF else does Bailey and Grabs have to do for this team to get a little respect from the coaching staff. Okposo will do better on the second line, it suits him. Grabs pretty much single handidly wins the Devils game on opening night and Capuano was actually borderline critical of his game during a post game interview. I'm really interested to know what Capuano's problem is with Grabner?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:05 AM ET
Through three games (yes a small sample size), seconsary scoring seems like an issue of the past, Donivan looks NHL ready and PMB looks like a third liner on this team. Great to see them firing on all cylinders early. Chicago will be a big test. But overall, I like what I've seen. Only a matter of days until Reinhart is sent to Jr and Clutterbuck is in the lineup.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 9 @ 8:10 AM ET
Through three games (yes a small sample size), seconsary scoring seems like an issue of the past, Donivan looks NHL ready and PMB looks like a third liner on this team. Great to see them firing on all cylinders early. Chicago will be a big test. But overall, I like what I've seen. Only a matter of days until Reinhart is sent to Jr and Clutterbuck is in the lineup.
- Jethro09

Looking fwd to clutterbuck
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:11 AM ET
I disagree with the Moulson hate. Hes one of the few on this team that puts the puck in the net. Period. I hope hes resigned. The problem with their line is that we need someone for the left side. Ko and Grabner don't belong on that line. Bailey is ok and probably our best play to fit the mold for the time being. The hate MM is getting is the same PA got and look at PA now.
- mighty13duck

Trading Moulsonnow is stupid. Maybe it'll be a good idea later on. 30 goal scorers don't grow on trees. If you get back a potential #1 goaltender or a top 4 dman, it possibly makes sense. I wouldnt trade Moulson for a draft pick.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:14 AM ET
Frans Nielsen is exactly the type of player a playoff team needs: on the 3rd line, primarily killing PKs. 50 points is his ceiling, the unreasonable expectations on this board are ridiculous.
- potvin05

Agreed frans is a keeper.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:45 AM ET
I like Moulson in general, great in front of the net, good hands, willing to take a beating to score a goal, great team attitude. The issue for me is that the rest of the team seems to be getting faster and it's almost like he's getting slower. He's an asset, has great chemistry with JT and can score, and we don't have many guys who can consistently put the puck in the net. Aside from JT, Moulson is the next best one we have. Problem is, if he can't play defense, and his line gets pinned in their own end for a shift or two a period, is it helping? Would we be better off with someone else on that line? Would we be better off moving him for someone else?

I don't know. Really unsure of what we'll have with the kids in strome, lee and nelson over the next year or two. So do you move Moulson and suddenly have a hard time finding two wingers for JT and hope the kids step in at a high level, or do you hold onto him and work around the skating issue.

Not quite sure what the best option is. I don't like the idea of throwing away a 30 goal man, but man...those shifts where they can't get out of their own end are just painful as hell to watch.

- Islis, the isles ares_since_6

The thing is the isles are going to have to move someone at some point with Lee and Strome likely ready next year. Who are you going to move? Moulson is the likely candidate because he's a UFA and will likely be overpaid next summer.

if they are thinking that Moulson isn't going to be a long term player here, better to move him now to address a need than at the deadline for a pick. Maybe Moulson for Elliott or Bishop? But trading a 30 goal guy for picks at the deadline is a waste.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:53 AM ET
Trading Moulsonnow is stupid. Maybe it'll be a good idea later on. 30 goal scorers don't grow on trees. If you get back a potential #1 goaltender or a top 4 dman, it possibly makes sense. I wouldnt trade Moulson for a draft pick.
- Jethro09


They do if they're on the wing of a superstar. I'd be in no rush to have him dealt but as I stated before, unless you're comfortable with him being your top line LW for the next 4 years, it would be wise to at least explore our options.
On two occasions last night Bailey and Grabner ended up on the ice with Tavares and both times they generated scoring chances. I think there's a lot of different ways to consider diversifying our approach with Tavares, but literally NONE with Moulson. He's either on JT's wing, or he's done.

Xxkeaner17xX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:03 AM ET
They do if they're on the wing of a superstar. I'd be in no rush to have him dealt but as I stated before, unless you're comfortable with him being your top line LW for the next 4 years, it would be wise to at least explore our options.
On two occasions last night Bailey and Grabner ended up on the ice with Tavares and both times they generated scoring chances. I think there's a lot of different ways to consider diversifying our approach with Tavares, but literally NONE with Moulson. He's either on JT's wing, or he's done.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17

Yep. Both beautiful goals. Especially goal number 4. That was all Bailey.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:27 AM ET
In regards to Kabanov. I think it's reasonable to assume that you will never see Kabanov in an Islanders jersey. For whatever reason, the kid has simply never put it together and the fact that he can't even crack the top 6 on our AHL team suggests he's better off to pursue his career with another team. I'm a bit shocked by this considering he just scored the other night, and the fact that he was late to a team meeting suggests to me that, contrary to what the club claims, this is a demotion/punishment. Regardless, I have serious doubts this will end well.

xxkeaner17xx

**I've also heard that being late to team meetings is not a one time occurance for Mr. Kabanov.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 9 @ 9:33 AM ET
They do if they're on the wing of a superstar. I'd be in no rush to have him dealt but as I stated before, unless you're comfortable with him being your top line LW for the next 4 years, it would be wise to at least explore our options.
On two occasions last night Bailey and Grabner ended up on the ice with Tavares and both times they generated scoring chances. I think there's a lot of different ways to consider diversifying our approach with Tavares, but literally NONE with Moulson. He's either on JT's wing, or he's done.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17


Maybe my idea from the previous thread wasn't so crazy after all

I disagree about Moulson though...I actually think he'd do just fine on Nielsen's or whoever's wing. Maybe not 30+ goals, but 20-25 picking up garbage in a scoring-support role isn't so bad at all, and I think it's perfectly doable. His best chance last night came from a feed from Okposo, not Tavares. He was robbed though. I really don't think the two of them need to be tethered.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:40 AM ET
In regards to Kabanov. I think it's reasonable to assume that you will never see Kabanov in an Islanders jersey. For whatever reason, the kid has simply never put it together and the fact that he can't even crack the top 6 on our AHL team suggests he's better off to pursue his career with another team. I'm a bit shocked by this considering he just scored the other night, and the fact that he was late to a team meeting suggests to me that, contrary to what the club claims, this is a demotion/punishment. Regardless, I have serious doubts this will end well.

xxkeaner17xx

**I've also heard that being late to team meetings is not a one time occurance for Mr. Kabanov.

- keaner17

It's obvious there is the SOS going on with this kid. The PR shat the team has been sending out the last couple years was obviously BS. You don't get demoted to the echl from the ahl for being late to a team meeting. Especially after all the smoke they blew up fans a$$es about the new and improved kabanov.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:41 AM ET
Islanders are looking amazing so far. I have nothing to complain about. Well maybe KO, but it is the typical KO. Does nothing for the first 65 games and then he wakes up and plays like he could. As long as the team is winning though who cares.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 9 @ 9:41 AM ET
I would have liked to have seen Kabanov get that shot in the top-six at BPort. Even last season when he was in the linuep, he played almost entirely in the bottom six. If you're a creative playmaker, it helps to be out there with quality finishers rather than muckers and grinders.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
It's obvious there is the SOS going on with this kid. The PR shat the team has been sending out the last couple years was obviously BS. You don't get demoted to the echl from the ahl for being late to a team meeting. Especially after all the smoke they blew up fans a$$es about the new and improved kabanov.
- Cptmjl


Disagree...you don't commit to go to Gary Roberts' camp...and he certainly doesn't accept candidates...if you're only interested in wasting time and partying or whatever. He only takes a few candidates in the offseason to work with, and those who write about it indicate he's pretty selective in who he chooses.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
I would have liked to have seen Kabanov get that shot in the top-six at BPort. Even last season when he was in the linuep, he played almost entirely in the bottom six. If you're a creative playmaker, it helps to be out there with quality finishers rather than muckers and grinders.
- UIF


Agreed. I suppose the surprising element here is that I've heard decent stories about how much he's matured and is quite the generous personality. It could be that they truly want him to get more minutes as was said by Staple, they've done it with Jason Clark and A-Mac in the past, but Kabanov is such an immensely talented kid, I find it a bit odd that they couldn't find a decent spot for him in the top six in BPT.
I do find it a bit more than coincidental that he was 'demoted' hours after being reported late to a team meeting.

Xxkeaner17xX
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:51 AM ET
They do if they're on the wing of a superstar. I'd be in no rush to have him dealt but as I stated before, unless you're comfortable with him being your top line LW for the next 4 years, it would be wise to at least explore our options.
On two occasions last night Bailey and Grabner ended up on the ice with Tavares and both times they generated scoring chances. I think there's a lot of different ways to consider diversifying our approach with Tavares, but literally NONE with Moulson. He's either on JT's wing, or he's done.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17



exactly...

people say 30 goal scorers dont grow on trees but forget where moulson came from before he joined the isles (hint: it wasnt a tree but not that far off)
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
Maybe my idea from the previous thread wasn't so crazy after all

I disagree about Moulson though...I actually think he'd do just fine on Nielsen's or whoever's wing. Maybe not 30+ goals, but 20-25 picking up garbage in a scoring-support role isn't so bad at all, and I think it's perfectly doable. His best chance last night came from a feed from Okposo, not Tavares. He was robbed though. I really don't think the two of them need to be tethered.

- UIF


I see Moulson (w/out JT) as a 15-22 goal guy. The problem is I also see him as a complete defensive liability and someone that doesn't seem to excel in physical games. If Moulson is primarily a garbage man, he needs guys who constantly get the puck to the dirty areas but also can play defense. He may work out okay with Fransy, but I'd prefer Fransy not be a long term solution as our second line center either.

xxkeaner17xx
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:04 AM ET
"7. Rangers .. new system will add scoring but will expose sub par D-men. "
it's game 3.. but have u ever seen them give up 9 goals in the past? Just sayin.. If you have not see 'Teenage Mutant Ninja' Hertl 4th goal u need to look.

Okposo should not be on top line...He is a Bull and would work well on 2nd or 3rd in his beast mode.. moulson and JT keep surprising him with great passes he isn't ready for..etc. I hope they do not sit Brock but Regin must have known he was on hot seat and stepped his game up.

What game is Butch watching? is he drinking again? He was calling "smith's" save of JT's attempted hatrick an incredible save... even after the replay. It was obvious to everyone he hit the side of the net.. and Smith was long gone. He also after watching it 3 times had no idea what got Neilsen so pissed.. the guy but ended him on the top of the head butch.. wtf are u looking at?

solid game.. Nabby A+ again. Friday is a big test.
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